UK Politics Thread XI: Boris' Big Bombastic Brexit Bash

[The Free Joy State]

Go on the gays

Noice.

Huzzah for Northern Ireland!

Also, congrats on having a Government again!

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

I'm surprised Arlene Foster didn't want to have a more backseat role.

[Ifreann]

Reading back the last few pages, I have to say, I'm genuinely surprised that, save for one or two posts, there isn't more discussion and debate on here about the unprecedented step of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex to "step back" from their essential royal duties (and their upcoming crisis meeting with Her Majesty), in blatant and flagrant violation of royal protocol and their essential responsibilities. Akin to the abdication crisis, this latest radical step, portending a most unnecessary constitutional crisis, evinces a very troubling disrespect on their part for Her Majesty's position, and is likely to undermine the prestige and institution of the British royal family by undercutting all the roles, responsibilities, and functions that come attached with being members of 'the Firm'.

Not many people give a flying fuck.

The story is really only interesting in terms of people's reaction to it.

[The Huskar Social Union]

I couldnt give a donkey wank what the royals do, if two of them wana hump off to canadia good for them

[The Free Joy State]

Reading back the last few pages, I have to say, I'm genuinely surprised that, save for one or two posts, there isn't more discussion and debate on here about the unprecedented step of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex to "step back" from their essential royal duties (and their upcoming crisis meeting with Her Majesty), in blatant and flagrant violation of royal protocol and their essential responsibilities. Akin to the abdication crisis, this latest radical step, portending a most unnecessary constitutional crisis, evinces a very troubling disrespect on their part for Her Majesty's position, and is likely to undermine the prestige and institution of the British royal family by undercutting all the roles, responsibilities, and functions that come attached with being members of 'the Firm'.

Not many people give a flying fuck.

^ This.

The sixth in line for the throne may be moving to Canada. Good for them; hope they're happy.

If they end up advertising Royal Brand Lager with cheesy grins and the proclamation that it's "fit for a queen"... meh.

[Chan Island]

Reading back the last few pages, I have to say, I'm genuinely surprised that, save for one or two posts, there isn't more discussion and debate on here about the unprecedented step of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex to "step back" from their essential royal duties (and their upcoming crisis meeting with Her Majesty), in blatant and flagrant violation of royal protocol and their essential responsibilities. Akin to the abdication crisis, this latest radical step, portending a most unnecessary constitutional crisis, evinces a very troubling disrespect on their part for Her Majesty's position, and is likely to undermine the prestige and institution of the British royal family by undercutting all the roles, responsibilities, and functions that come attached with being members of 'the Firm'.

Because what's there to say? That it doesn't affect our lives much in any way? Well, there's only so much to say there. Maybe it could be built up as a discussion as to whether the monarchy should exist at all, but even then the more interesting news is the fact that potential Labour leader Rebecca Long-Bailey has come out in favour of abolishing the House of Lords (which, while I still don't intend to cast my own ballot for her, I would be excited to see happen if she did win).

That the reaction by the hypocritical old gammons who keep professing to love the monarchy to this news is disgusting? Well, just go into the Daily Mail's comment sections and you'll see this daily, so where's the news in that?

That surely Prince Andrew is more pertinent news? Oh, but sorry, because he's the queen's son we'll just casually forget he visited Jeffrey Epstein's island multiple times while Epstein was known to be sexually assaulting minors. And then looked guilty as fuck in the interview. Just a shame Epstein totally killed himself so any investigation into who his associates in a giant pedophile ring at the highest rungs of power is not going to happen. Guess we should all go for the distraction tactic!

That they are all meeting what's it, today? OK? I've been to family gatherings too. Full power to Harry and Meghan to whether that storm I guess, but what else is there to say?

That the way the press has treated Meghan Markle for the past couple of months has been nothing but utterly disgusting ever since she married Harry? That only a very quick comparison between the way they talk about Kate Middleton and her is night and day, and that surely this is proof that our press needs some kind of regulation against these ceaseless attacks?

That Harry didn't have a choice whether he wanted to be in the "firm" at all, and that doing this in many ways represents the first real choice he's ever done in his life?

And then all of that of course circles round to the big question of... how does that affect our lives?

[Vassenor]

Reading back the last few pages, I have to say, I'm genuinely surprised that, save for one or two posts, there isn't more discussion and debate on here about the unprecedented step of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex to "step back" from their essential royal duties (and their upcoming crisis meeting with Her Majesty), in blatant and flagrant violation of royal protocol and their essential responsibilities. Akin to the abdication crisis, this latest radical step, portending a most unnecessary constitutional crisis, evinces a very troubling disrespect on their part for Her Majesty's position, and is likely to undermine the prestige and institution of the British royal family by undercutting all the roles, responsibilities, and functions that come attached with being members of 'the Firm'.

Because we know it's being played up by the press to keep our attention off of things.

[The Blaatschapen]

Reading back the last few pages, I have to say, I'm genuinely surprised that, save for one or two posts, there isn't more discussion and debate on here about the unprecedented step of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex to "step back" from their essential royal duties (and their upcoming crisis meeting with Her Majesty), in blatant and flagrant violation of royal protocol and their essential responsibilities. Akin to the abdication crisis, this latest radical step, portending a most unnecessary constitutional crisis, evinces a very troubling disrespect on their part for Her Majesty's position, and is likely to undermine the prestige and institution of the British royal family by undercutting all the roles, responsibilities, and functions that come attached with being members of 'the Firm'.

Because what's there to say? That it doesn't affect our lives much in any way? Well, there's only so much to say there. Maybe it could be built up as a discussion as to whether the monarchy should exist at all, but even then the more interesting news is the fact that potential Labour leader Rebecca Long-Bailey has come out in favour of abolishing the House of Lords (which, while I still don't intend to cast my own ballot for her, I would be excited to see happen if she did win).

That the reaction by the hypocritical old gammons who keep professing to love the monarchy to this news is disgusting? Well, just go into the Daily Mail's comment sections and you'll see this daily, so where's the news in that?

That surely Prince Andrew is more pertinent news? Oh, but sorry, because he's the queen's son we'll just casually forget he visited Jeffrey Epstein's island multiple times while Epstein was known to be sexually assaulting minors. And then looked guilty as fuck in the interview. Just a shame Epstein totally killed himself so any investigation into who his associates in a giant pedophile ring at the highest rungs of power is not going to happen. Guess we should all go for the distraction tactic!

That they are all meeting what's it, today? OK? I've been to family gatherings too. Full power to Harry and Meghan to whether that storm I guess, but what else is there to say?

That the way the press has treated Meghan Markle for the past couple of months has been nothing but utterly disgusting ever since she married Harry? That only a very quick comparison between the way they talk about Kate Middleton and her is night and day, and that surely this is proof that our press needs some kind of regulation against these ceaseless attacks?

That Harry didn't have a choice whether he wanted to be in the "firm" at all, and that doing this in many ways represents the first real choice he's ever done in his life?

And then all of that of course circles round to the big question of... how does that affect our lives?

To be honest, this royal family drama is a weak spin-off from the writers of Brexit. It's like trying to keep the audience entertained, but we all know that the finale of the grand epic is coming, and this sudden story arc is too set up. It will be Joey, where Brexit is Friends.

[Chan Island]

Reading back the last few pages, I have to say, I'm genuinely surprised that, save for one or two posts, there isn't more discussion and debate on here about the unprecedented step of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex to "step back" from their essential royal duties (and their upcoming crisis meeting with Her Majesty), in blatant and flagrant violation of royal protocol and their essential responsibilities. Akin to the abdication crisis, this latest radical step, portending a most unnecessary constitutional crisis, evinces a very troubling disrespect on their part for Her Majesty's position, and is likely to undermine the prestige and institution of the British royal family by undercutting all the roles, responsibilities, and functions that come attached with being members of 'the Firm'.

Because we know it's being played up by the press to keep our attention off of things.

And that too.

Just today for example it's emerged that court waiting times have almost doubled since 2010, and that half of courts are sitting empty at any given time despite an ever increasingly backlog.

https://www.pressreader.com/uk/the-guar ... AaYVq84K7M

[Ifreann]

I couldnt give a donkey wank what the royals do, if two of them wana hump off to canadia good for them

As many have pointed out, it's pretty mad that Harry deciding to sod off gets crisis meetings, but Andrew fucking teenage girls trafficked by Jeffrey Epstein provokes no reaction at all. And it's certainly enlightening to see how some people seem to think that Meghan is some kind of evil seductress who's manipulating poor Harry. But this is otherwise entirely uninteresting, even as celebrity gossip.

[Chan Island]

I couldnt give a donkey wank what the royals do, if two of them wana hump off to canadia good for them

As many have pointed out, it's pretty mad that Harry deciding to sod off gets crisis meetings, but Andrew fucking teenage girls trafficked by Jeffrey Epstein provokes no reaction at all. And it's certainly enlightening to see how some people seem to think that Meghan is some kind of evil seductress who's manipulating poor Harry. But this is otherwise entirely uninteresting, even as celebrity gossip.

Yeah, if anything it's Prince Andrew who should be summoned to crisis meetings.

With the police.

Behind bars.

[Vassenor]

I'm not sure how exactly the sixth in line to the throne retiring from public life is somehow a constitutional crisis on par with Eddie's abdication either.

[Ifreann]

I'm not sure how exactly the sixth in line to the throne retiring from public life is somehow a constitutional crisis on par with Eddie's abdication either.

If anything they should be glad to have a designated survivor off in the New World in case bats steal London.

[Paigentland]

Interesting how the poll on this thread is so similar to the YouGov Poll results... anyways, if one of the corporate centrists gain power the hope for the UK is over

[Dumb Ideologies]

Reading back the last few pages, I have to say, I'm genuinely surprised that, save for one or two posts, there isn't more discussion and debate on here about the unprecedented step of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex to "step back" from their essential royal duties (and their upcoming crisis meeting with Her Majesty), in blatant and flagrant violation of royal protocol and their essential responsibilities. Akin to the abdication crisis, this latest radical step, portending a most unnecessary constitutional crisis, evinces a very troubling disrespect on their part for Her Majesty's position, and is likely to undermine the prestige and institution of the British royal family by undercutting all the roles, responsibilities, and functions that come attached with being members of 'the Firm'.

The vast majority of what's been going round has been """leaked""" by """sources""". Even for those of us who think the monarchy should be retained, we know very little of the personalities and stories of the people involved other than their public image.

Perhaps it's bad form for Harry not to have talked to the Queen first before the statement. Maybe it is a dereliction of duty. But equally perhaps there's a degree to which it's the action of someone deeply impacted by losing a parent at a young age harassed by the paparazzi, and a couple struggling to deal with all the public attention.

At that point it looks much less like a black and white tut tut moment, something to write invective about on the Daily Mail website, and more an unfortunate and complex situation where people are struggling and perhaps others who don't know what's going on should close the vents from their spleens and sit down.

[Chan Island]

Interesting how the poll on this thread is so similar to the YouGov Poll results... anyways, if one of the corporate centrists gain power the hope for the UK is over

Hope for the UK is already over. We brexit in 2 weeks and have Boris Johnson at the helm.

The only question is on how well we rebuild. :/

[Novus America]

I'm not sure how exactly the sixth in line to the throne retiring from public life is somehow a constitutional crisis on par with Eddie's abdication either.

I have to agree with this. Other than allowing the tabloids to use the family as a live action soap opera, why is this particularly important? And the idea that it is a severe as a crisis that almost caused the commonwealth system to collapse (back when it still was important) is silly.

[Gormwood]

Reading back the last few pages, I have to say, I'm genuinely surprised that, save for one or two posts, there isn't more discussion and debate on here about the unprecedented step of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex to "step back" from their essential royal duties (and their upcoming crisis meeting with Her Majesty), in blatant and flagrant violation of royal protocol and their essential responsibilities. Akin to the abdication crisis, this latest radical step, portending a most unnecessary constitutional crisis, evinces a very troubling disrespect on their part for Her Majesty's position, and is likely to undermine the prestige and institution of the British royal family by undercutting all the roles, responsibilities, and functions that come attached with being members of 'the Firm'.

Because what's there to say? That it doesn't affect our lives much in any way? Well, there's only so much to say there. Maybe it could be built up as a discussion as to whether the monarchy should exist at all, but even then the more interesting news is the fact that potential Labour leader Rebecca Long-Bailey has come out in favour of abolishing the House of Lords (which, while I still don't intend to cast my own ballot for her, I would be excited to see happen if she did win).

That the reaction by the hypocritical old gammons who keep professing to love the monarchy to this news is disgusting? Well, just go into the Daily Mail's comment sections and you'll see this daily, so where's the news in that?

That surely Prince Andrew is more pertinent news? Oh, but sorry, because he's the queen's son we'll just casually forget he visited Jeffrey Epstein's island multiple times while Epstein was known to be sexually assaulting minors. And then looked guilty as fuck in the interview. Just a shame Epstein totally killed himself so any investigation into who his associates in a giant pedophile ring at the highest rungs of power is not going to happen. Guess we should all go for the distraction tactic!

That they are all meeting what's it, today? OK? I've been to family gatherings too. Full power to Harry and Meghan to whether that storm I guess, but what else is there to say?

That the way the press has treated Meghan Markle for the past couple of months has been nothing but utterly disgusting ever since she married Harry? That only a very quick comparison between the way they talk about Kate Middleton and her is night and day, and that surely this is proof that our press needs some kind of regulation against these ceaseless attacks?

That Harry didn't have a choice whether he wanted to be in the "firm" at all, and that doing this in many ways represents the first real choice he's ever done in his life?

And then all of that of course circles round to the big question of... how does that affect our lives?

To paraphrase Blazing Saddles, the press from Day One has been yelling "THE DUCHESS IS A NI-(DONG!)"

[Shamhnan Insir]

I'm not sure how exactly the sixth in line to the throne retiring from public life is somehow a constitutional crisis on par with Eddie's abdication either.

I have to agree with this. Other than allowing the tabloids to use the family as a live action soap opera, why is this particularly important? And the idea that it is a severe as a crisis that almost caused the commonwealth system to collapse (back when it still was important) is silly.

You are all missing the point. This is simply another move in the great game of recovering the Empire. The Queen was instrumental in linking Harry with Meghan therefore creating a link across the pond. The subsequent decision of the couple to split time across the Atlantic and retire from most public duties is to appeal more the the North American public and therefore bring them onside. Given a few more years the subtle power plays and workings into higher echelons of government will lead to a decision to once again join fully with the British Empire. The Queen has several such plans underway, which is why Princess Margret is buttering up the young stars of the Bollywood industry for Prince Williams children to soon marry. The plans for Prince Andrew went somewhat awry unfortunately so he will be quietly disposed of shortly.
This whole show about the royal family crisis meeting is just a clever smokescreen.

[North German Realm]

I have to agree with this. Other than allowing the tabloids to use the family as a live action soap opera, why is this particularly important? And the idea that it is a severe as a crisis that almost caused the commonwealth system to collapse (back when it still was important) is silly.

You are all missing the point. This is simply another move in the great game of recovering the Empire. The Queen was instrumental in linking Harry with Meghan therefore creating a link across the pond. The subsequent decision of the couple to split time across the Atlantic and retire from most public duties is to appeal more the the North American public and therefore bring them onside. Given a few more years the subtle power plays and workings into higher echelons of government will lead to a decision to once again join fully with the British Empire. The Queen has several such plans underway, which is why Princess Margret is buttering up the young stars of the Bollywood industry for Prince Williams children to soon marry. The plans for Prince Andrew went somewhat awry unfortunately so he will be quietly disposed of shortly.
This whole show about the royal family crisis meeting is just a clever smokescreen.

The most hilarious part is that this wouldn't be Out Of Character for a Royal Family. Or, really, for the British Royal Family.

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

Clive Lewis has withdrawn from the leadership race after failing to get enough nominations.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Clive Lewis has withdrawn from the leadership race after failing to get enough nominations.

As far as i know Dan Jarvis also dropped out so we are down to five: Nandy, Phillips, Starmer, Thornberry and Bailey

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

Clive Lewis has withdrawn from the leadership race after failing to get enough nominations.

As far as i know Dan Jarvis also dropped out so we are down to five: Nandy, Phillips, Starmer, Thornberry and Bailey

Yes, you are right.

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Question: This whole Harry and Meghan thing, is anyone calling it Rexit? It's very intuitive, but I haven't seen the word in any headlines.

(Rexit = Royal Exit. And rex is the Latin word for king so it works on multiple levels)

[The Huskar Social Union]

Question: This whole Harry and Meghan thing, is anyone calling it Rexit? It's very intuitive, but I haven't seen the word in any headlines.

(Rexit = Royal Exit. And rex is the Latin word for king so it works on multiple levels)

They better fucking not