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Who do you support to become the next Labour Party Leader?

Clive Lewis (DROPPED OUT)
2
2%
Keir Starmer (Shadow Brexit Secretary, MP for Holborn and St Pancras)
48
41%
Lisa Nandy (MP for Wigan)
11
9%
Jess Phillips (DROPPED OUT)
17
15%
Emily Thornberry (Shadow First Secretary of State, MP for Islington South and Finsbury)
7
6%
Yvette Cooper (DROPPED OUT)
1
1%
Dan Jarvis (DROPPED OUT)
1
1%
Ian Lavery (DROPPED OUT)
1
1%
Rebecca Long Bailey (Shadow Business Secretary, MP for Salford and Eccles)
17
15%
Other (Please state who in a reply)
11
9%
 
Total votes : 116
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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:36 am

Shamhnan Insir wrote:As it is Halloween I had an unpleasant thought.
Is it still possible that Brexit could occur today? Is there some loophole or vote or method (that has either remained undetected, or well hidden) that come midnight we'll accidentally fall out of the EU by way of poor checking of all the legislature and documentation during the maelstrom of the past couple of weeks?


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Postby Ifreann » Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:38 am

The New California Republic wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Stealth 100: Boris pickpockets Brexit from Barnier.

Speech 100: Boris charms Nicola into accepting that a second independence referendum shouldn't happen.

I don't think Boris' Speech is that high :P
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Postby Gormwood » Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:41 am

Ifreann wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Speech 100: Boris charms Nicola into accepting that a second independence referendum shouldn't happen.

I don't think Boris' Speech is that high :P

Boris himself is likely high however.
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Postby The Rich Port » Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:41 am

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Scotland will be forced to 'dig for victory'; creating improvised deep-fryers in their gardens and receiving rationing stamps for heroin.

We aren't all on the junk you know...


Just the REAL Scots :P

Ah, but seriously.

The deadliest drug of all was the nationalism friend we made along the way.

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Postby The New California Republic » Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:42 am

Ifreann wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Stealth 100: Boris pickpockets Brexit from Barnier.
The New California Republic wrote:Speech 100: Boris charms Nicola into accepting that a second independence referendum shouldn't happen.

I don't think Boris' Speech is that high :P

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Postby Ifreann » Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:46 am

The New California Republic wrote:
Ifreann wrote:I don't think Boris' Speech is that high :P

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Very true.
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Postby Vassenor » Thu Oct 31, 2019 10:28 am

So how many of Jeremy Corbyn's policies do you actually disagree with?

Basically it's kind of unsurprising just how little unbiased coverage his actual policy positions have received. Or even coverage at all, in some cases.
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Postby The Rich Port » Thu Oct 31, 2019 10:35 am

Vassenor wrote:So how many of Jeremy Corbyn's policies do you actually disagree with?

Basically it's kind of unsurprising just how little unbiased coverage his actual policy positions have received. Or even coverage at all, in some cases.


God forbid that Boris Johnson's Shame Bus be discredited as a bunch of bullshit.

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Postby Ostroeuropa » Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:23 pm

Labour just needs to get it over with and start a lawsuit division. The Tories will cry and claim it happens to them too and start filing frivolous lawsuits, bankrupt all the liars.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:34 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:Labour just needs to get it over with and start a lawsuit division. The Tories will cry and claim it happens to them too and start filing frivolous lawsuits, bankrupt all the liars.


What?
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Postby Aureumterra » Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:09 pm

Just leave the fucking EU already godamnit
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Postby Chan Island » Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:10 pm

Aureumterra wrote:Just leave the fucking EU already godamnit


How about....

No.
viewtopic.php?f=20&t=513597&p=39401766#p39401766
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Postby Aureumterra » Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:11 pm

Chan Island wrote:
Aureumterra wrote:Just leave the fucking EU already godamnit


How about....

No.

Referendum already happened, not leaving the EU will taint the term “referendum” in history, and will show that democratic governments don’t actually honor the people’s vote
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Postby Fartsniffage » Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:12 pm

Aureumterra wrote:Just leave the fucking EU already godamnit


No thanks. :)
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Postby Vassenor » Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:13 pm

Aureumterra wrote:
Chan Island wrote:
How about....

No.

Referendum already happened, not leaving the EU will taint the term “referendum” in history, and will show that democratic governments don’t actually honor the people’s vote


TIL Switzerland isn't a democracy.
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Postby Gormwood » Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:13 pm

Aureumterra wrote:
Chan Island wrote:
How about....

No.

Referendum already happened, not leaving the EU will taint the term “referendum” in history, and will show that democratic governments don’t actually honor the people’s vote

Why not hold a second referendum if you're so certain that's what "The People" really want?
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Postby Chan Island » Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:13 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:Labour just needs to get it over with and start a lawsuit division. The Tories will cry and claim it happens to them too and start filing frivolous lawsuits, bankrupt all the liars.


What?
I think he's referencing this.

https://anotherangryvoice.blogspot.com/ ... a-war.html

TLDR: The press lies about Corbyn so much, that they only actually report his views on something 11% of the time (that figure is literally 0% on the Daily Mail). Labour has repeatedly complained about being lied about so much, yet not gone after the press where it hurts. Which would be libel lawsuits.
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Conserative Morality wrote:"It's not time yet" is a tactic used by reactionaries in every era. "It's not time for democracy, it's not time for capitalism, it's not time for emancipation." Of course it's not time. It's never time, not on its own. You make it time. If you're under fire in the no-man's land of WW1, you start digging a foxhole even if the ideal time would be when you *aren't* being bombarded, because once you wait for it to be 'time', other situations will need your attention, assuming you survive that long. If the fields aren't furrowed, plow them. If the iron is not hot, make it so. If society is not ready, change it.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:13 pm

Aureumterra wrote:
Chan Island wrote:
How about....

No.

Referendum already happened, not leaving the EU will taint the term “referendum” in history, and will show that democratic governments don’t actually honor the people’s vote

The 2016 referendum was tainted already, even before 2019.
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Postby Aureumterra » Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:14 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Aureumterra wrote:Referendum already happened, not leaving the EU will taint the term “referendum” in history, and will show that democratic governments don’t actually honor the people’s vote


TIL Switzerland isn't a democracy.

Is anyone saying that?
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Postby The Rich Port » Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:15 pm

Chan Island wrote:
Aureumterra wrote:Just leave the fucking EU already godamnit


How about....

No.


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How dare you, sir.

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Postby Chan Island » Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:15 pm

Aureumterra wrote:
Chan Island wrote:
How about....

No.

Referendum already happened, not leaving the EU will taint the term “referendum” in history, and will show that democratic governments don’t actually honor the people’s vote


So why wasn't the referendum already tainted when we found out that the Leave campaign broke electoral law and got fined for it?
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Conserative Morality wrote:"It's not time yet" is a tactic used by reactionaries in every era. "It's not time for democracy, it's not time for capitalism, it's not time for emancipation." Of course it's not time. It's never time, not on its own. You make it time. If you're under fire in the no-man's land of WW1, you start digging a foxhole even if the ideal time would be when you *aren't* being bombarded, because once you wait for it to be 'time', other situations will need your attention, assuming you survive that long. If the fields aren't furrowed, plow them. If the iron is not hot, make it so. If society is not ready, change it.
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Postby Vassenor » Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:16 pm

Aureumterra wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
TIL Switzerland isn't a democracy.

Is anyone saying that?


You did. Because Switzerland did the things you're complaining about.
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Postby The Rich Port » Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:17 pm

Aureumterra wrote:
Chan Island wrote:
How about....

No.

Referendum already happened, not leaving the EU will taint the term “referendum” in history, and will show that democratic governments don’t actually honor the people’s vote


You mean the referendum that was based on lies and bullshit?

The referendum was tainted before it was put down and sent out.
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Postby Aureumterra » Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:18 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Aureumterra wrote:Is anyone saying that?


You did. Because Switzerland did the things you're complaining about.

It’s an undemocratic thing to do, but doing so doesn’t make a country an autocracy or oligarchy. Same as with the UK, if the referendum is overturned, that specific actions is undemocratic, yet the UK still remains a free constitutional monarchy
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Postby Vassenor » Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:21 pm

Aureumterra wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
You did. Because Switzerland did the things you're complaining about.

It’s an undemocratic thing to do, but doing so doesn’t make a country an autocracy or oligarchy. Same as with the UK, if the referendum is overturned, that specific actions is undemocratic, yet the UK still remains a free constitutional monarchy


So how does overturning Brexit corrupt democracy forever?
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