UK Politics Thread XI: Boris' Big Bombastic Brexit Bash

[Bear Stearns]

Russia would nuke NATO forces once they got close to Moscow. The US retaliates and nukes Moscow. Russia decides that it has nothing left to lose and launches its full arsenal. The US now has to do the same.

Also, America is very open to the idea of using nukes offensively rather than as a last resort in these situations.

You are pretty much the only guy in here who even entertains the idea of marching on Moscow lol.

What do you think a war with Russia would entail?

[Novus America]

Tactical, not strategic. No one is going to trade their capital city for someone elses.

Russia would nuke NATO forces once they got close to Moscow. The US retaliates and nukes Moscow. Russia decides that it has nothing left to lose and launches its full arsenal. The US now has to do the same.

Also, America is very open to the idea of using nukes offensively rather than as a last resort in these situations.

Why the hell would the NATO try to take Moscow?

[Vassenor]

...How did we get onto this anyway?

[Bear Stearns]

You are pretty much the only guy in here who even entertains the idea of marching on Moscow lol.

I think it's because he's short and boning someone called Josephine.

what

[Salandriagado]

As far as the US is concerned, Taiwan is already Chinese. Shitty dictatorships fighting wars against other shitty dictatorships does not justify the rest of us starting WWIII.

Uh what... Taiwan is a de facto independent state that isn't running a massive oppression palace

The official position of the US is that the PRC is China, and there is no country called "Taiwan". The US isn't going to do anything to jeopardise its cheap manufacturing.

[The East Marches II]

You are pretty much the only guy in here who even entertains the idea of marching on Moscow lol.

What do you think a war with Russia would entail?

You still believe in total victory when fighting. Mr. Austria-Bohemia-Hungary has spent too much time in the Infantry Discussion thread to believe in victory like that.

[Bear Stearns]

Russia would nuke NATO forces once they got close to Moscow. The US retaliates and nukes Moscow. Russia decides that it has nothing left to lose and launches its full arsenal. The US now has to do the same.

Also, America is very open to the idea of using nukes offensively rather than as a last resort in these situations.

Why the hell would the NATO try to take Moscow?

A war with Russia would invariably escalate into a total war - how do you end that? Take out the Russian government. So you go for the capital.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

You are pretty much the only guy in here who even entertains the idea of marching on Moscow lol.

What do you think a war with Russia would entail?

Hopefully, it involves us smiling and saying 'Good luck guys, we're open for business. Competitive prices'

[Novus America]

Say the US gets in a war with the PRC. Russia, knowing the US has all its resources fighting in the Pacific, goes for the Baltics.

Just as likely:

We go to war with China - Russia views this as opportunity to secure Siberia and Central Asia and switches sides.

Not likely at all. Russia is not just real politick, it has an ideological axe to grind.

[Bear Stearns]

What do you think a war with Russia would entail?

You still believe in total victory when fighting. Mr. Austria-Bohemia-Hungary has spent too much time in the Infantry Discussion thread to believe in victory like that.

A war with Russia would have to be a total victory otherwise the war will never end.

[Salandriagado]

...How did we get onto this anyway?

Some people think we should lay the groundwork for conscription. They're now jumping through hoops coming up with increasingly ridiculous scenarios to justify said enslavement.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

Why the hell would the NATO try to take Moscow?

A war with Russia would invariably escalate into a total war - how do you end that? Take out the Russian government. So you go for the capital.

With how advanced nato conventional missile and UAV technology is, you don't.

[The East Marches II]

...How did we get onto this anyway?

The utility of planning ahead. Something the British aren't notorious for on the eve of major conflicts. They tend to make it up as they go (and it goes ok tbf).

Also the absolute worthlessness of most of the continent :^)

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

You are pretty much the only guy in here who even entertains the idea of marching on Moscow lol.

What do you think a war with Russia would entail?

Idk. Let's entertain war scenarios:
1. Russian field army knocking a corridor to Kalinigrad through Lithuania, an Article 5 event.
2. Russian forces instigate unrest in Estonia to expel the American units there.
3. Russian forces crashes an ELINT plane with no transponders into a SAS airliner
4. Russian hired forces conducts an assassination campaign around the globe to hike oil prices.
In which one of the scenarios do you imagine NATO would march on Moscow?

[Greater vakolicci haven]

...How did we get onto this anyway?

Some people think we should lay the groundwork for conscription. They're now jumping through hoops coming up with increasingly ridiculous scenarios to justify said enslavement.

My proposal was much more sensible.

[Bear Stearns]

A war with Russia would invariably escalate into a total war - how do you end that? Take out the Russian government. So you go for the capital.

With how advanced nato conventional missile and UAV technology is, you don't.

So Russia forestalls this defeat the only way it can - by going nuclear.

See, no matter how many ways you cut it, a war with Russia is a bad idea and not worth it.

[Fartsniffage]

I said rent, not buy. Renting is cheaper in the short term. *nods*

What is the going monthly rental rate on a aircraft carrier these days? Last I checked Hertz does not keep them in stock

The Gerald R Ford strike group apparently cost $6.5 million per day to run. So charge $13 million per day to make a profit and offer discounts on weekends and if the target countries you don't like.

And you could really gouge them if the return it without a full gas bunker.

[The East Marches II]

...How did we get onto this anyway?

Some people think we should lay the groundwork for conscription. They're now jumping through hoops coming up with increasingly ridiculous scenarios to justify said enslavement.

What excellent projection!

[Vassenor]

...How did we get onto this anyway?

Some people think we should lay the groundwork for conscription. They're now jumping through hoops coming up with increasingly ridiculous scenarios to justify said enslavement.

...Apparently because they think giving the progressives something they've asked for will somehow upset them.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

What is the going monthly rental rate on a aircraft carrier these days? Last I checked Hertz does not keep them in stock

The Gerald R Ford strike group apparently cost $6.5 million per day to run. So charge $13 million per day to make a profit and offer discounts on weekends and if the target countries you don't like.

And you could really gouge them if the return it without a full gas bunker.

What if it comes back a bit sinky though?

[Novus America]

...How did we get onto this anyway?

Trumptonium (or however you spell it) said the UK should make women eligible for conscription.
But yes it has run quite far afield.

[The East Marches II]

The Gerald R Ford strike group apparently cost $6.5 million per day to run. So charge $13 million per day to make a profit and offer discounts on weekends and if the target countries you don't like.

And you could really gouge them if the return it without a full gas bunker.

What if it comes back a bit sinky though?

Surely Lloyd's offers insurance on that?

[Fartsniffage]

The Gerald R Ford strike group apparently cost $6.5 million per day to run. So charge $13 million per day to make a profit and offer discounts on weekends and if the target countries you don't like.

And you could really gouge them if the return it without a full gas bunker.

What if it comes back a bit sinky though?

Then your insurance broker is going to jump out of a high window.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

What if it comes back a bit sinky though?

Then your insurance broker is going to jump out of a high window.

Your policy covers you for up to $30 billion in damages to the pacific fleet.

[Bear Stearns]

What do you think a war with Russia would entail?

Idk. Let's entertain war scenarios:
1. Russian field army knocking a corridor to Kalinigrad through Lithuania, an Article 5 event.

They get obliterated at the Belarusian border by Polish armor and the US Air Force. We then rally the boys and push in.

2. Russian forces instigate unrest in Estonia to expel the American units there.

If Russia actually invades Estonia, then the US Navy floats up the Baltic and sticks its boot right into St. Petersburg.

If the Estonian government leaves NATO and wants US forces to leave then that is their perogative and we'd be an occupying army if we opposed them.

3. Russian forces crashes an ELINT plane with no transponders into a SAS airliner

We had random tragedies like this happen during the Cold War - we can prevent this from escalating.

4. Russian hired forces conducts an assassination campaign around the globe to hike oil prices.

You read too much Tom Clancy. Israel or Saudi Arabia is more likely to try some sort of cloak and dagger shit like this.

In which one of the scenarios do you imagine NATO would march on Moscow?

The one where war is declared between the US and Russia and US forces in Europe easily crush Russian defenses and begin occupying the country.