UK Politics Thread XI: Boris' Big Bombastic Brexit Bash

[The Huskar Social Union]

Arlene Foster said the DUP's losses this election are because of a "Pan Nationalist Front" after the SDLP decided to step down in North Belfast to boost SInn Fein

*cough* using loyalist paramilitaries to threaten the UUP out of North Belfast after trying for ages to get a unionist pact *cough*

Also local cunt Jamie Bryson had a catastrophic meltdown on twitter over "Nationalist MP" Stephen Farry of Alliance won North Down.

You reap what you sow, be a bunch of cunts and you lose votes Arlene because moderate unionists dont want your shit, hope it happens again next election and that this also transfers to Assembly and Local elections.

At least someone is having fun

Friendship ended with Corbynist Labour

Now Alliance and SDLP are my best friends.

[Philjia]

Arlene Foster said the DUP's losses this election are because of a "Pan Nationalist Front" after the SDLP decided to step down in North Belfast to boost SInn Fein

*cough* using loyalist paramilitaries to threaten the UUP out of North Belfast after trying for ages to get a unionist pact *cough*

Also local cunt Jamie Bryson had a catastrophic meltdown on twitter over "Nationalist MP" Stephen Farry of Alliance won North Down.

You reap what you sow, be a bunch of cunts and you lose votes Arlene because moderate unionists dont want your shit, hope it happens again next election and that this also transfers to Assembly and Local elections.

Alliance: We'd like to find common ground between Republicans and Unionists and battle the scourge of sectarianism
Unionists: SOUNDS LIKE NATIONALIST PROPAGANDA

[Dooom35796821595]

In all this effort being put in to “prove” how remain parties got a majority, you’re all ignoring one factor. That the SNP are actually a leave party.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Arlene Foster said the DUP's losses this election are because of a "Pan Nationalist Front" after the SDLP decided to step down in North Belfast to boost SInn Fein

*cough* using loyalist paramilitaries to threaten the UUP out of North Belfast after trying for ages to get a unionist pact *cough*

Also local cunt Jamie Bryson had a catastrophic meltdown on twitter over "Nationalist MP" Stephen Farry of Alliance won North Down.

You reap what you sow, be a bunch of cunts and you lose votes Arlene because moderate unionists dont want your shit, hope it happens again next election and that this also transfers to Assembly and Local elections.

Alliance: We'd like to find common ground between Republicans and Unionists and battle the scourge of sectarianism
Unionists: SOUNDS LIKE NATIONALIST PROPAGANDA

AllIRAnce

[Forumland]

random observations

1. The Welsh Lib Dems have been shut out for the second election in a row, and this time it wasn’t close. Their closest result was in Brecon and Radnorshire, where they lost by around 7000 votes. In Ceredigion they even fell behind the Tories.
2. The Tories gained both West Bromwich seats even though they had no Tory representation at the local level
3. Mansfield and Walsall North are now >60% Tory.
4. The SNP only won 47 (or 48) seats and was unable to hold NE Fife with a reduced majority
5. This is the first election where the Nationalists managed to get more seats than the Unionists. SF+SDLP are at 9 seats while the DUP holds 8. The Alliance took 1 seat but they’re neutral
6. All MPs who defected from one party to another have either left or lost their seats

7. The Lib Dems lost all seats that voted Leave.
8. Labour did worst in the working class constituencies which loathed Thatcher. They lost seats which were solidly Labour under Thatcher! Leigh, Burnley, Workington, even Doncaster North was close. How could the Party even claim to represent these people after this disaster? This isn’t like 1983 where everyone expected a loss, this year they lost when they expected a hung parliament and did worst among the people they claim to represent. That is an all-time low.

edit: point #8 made me so angry I made a grammatical error.

[Greater Loegria]

As the great grandson of miners and pottery manufacturers, I’ve never been more proud. The Conservative party has a huge number of problems to sort out and needs to ideologically realign but today I am pleased that at last much of the working class realised that by voting for Labour they were voting for a leadership that despised them and sold them out long ago. It’s telling when Labour win Putney but lose Bolsover.

There are a fair few Labour MPs I do like and admire, both past and present like Peter Shore, Frank Field, Kate Hoey and such. But for the most part I can say good riddance to many MPs from a party that increasingly shows its disdain for Britain and British people.

[Lower Nubia]

In all this effort being put in to “prove” how remain parties got a majority, you’re all ignoring one factor. That the SNP are actually a leave party.

But not that leave party.

[Phoenicaea]

^again, i m not brit, nor i m ‘representative’ of common politics of my meditteranean country (which treats me as a dissenter).

i m not aknowledged of britain. what i feel, reading from abroad, is your giving complain to labour for the leave, not leave thing, it doesn t fit.

if labour had fault in the vote, i suggest, try to give clues about other things. britain will not leave eu in winter, not as it has been said. we know.

i mean, nothing in life is sure, yet this is not plausible. so i give my clue to you. what is the ‘british matter’, as seen from abroad:

if you say ‘we have to gain public healtcare and public schools’, you have to say ‘it will be harsh and lenghty’. you have to build it, as a cathedral.

not having public healthcare schools is your faiblesse, as labours say. about electoral vote: ‘conservatives’ had pact, so they gained. ‘others’, had not.

[The New California Republic]

In all this effort being put in to “prove” how remain parties got a majority, you’re all ignoring one factor. That the SNP are actually a leave party.

That's not what is meant by a "leave party" and you know it.

[Vassenor]

As the great grandson of miners and pottery manufacturers, I’ve never been more proud. The Conservative party has a huge number of problems to sort out and needs to ideologically realign but today I am pleased that at last much of the working class realised that by voting for Labour they were voting for a leadership that despised them and sold them out long ago. It’s telling when Labour win Putney but lose Bolsover.

There are a fair few Labour MPs I do like and admire, both past and present like Peter Shore, Frank Field, Kate Hoey and such. But for the most part I can say good riddance to many MPs from a party that increasingly shows its disdain for Britain and British people.

Apparently turkeys voting for Christmas is a good thing now. Especially given how petty your definition of "disdain for Britain and British people" is.

[Infected Mushroom]

He's won a stunning mandate and a large majority from the public, I'd say that's fairly extraordinary and impressive

Except that's not true in actual vote tallies.

because of FPTP?

[The New California Republic]

Except that's not true in actual vote tallies.

because of FPTP?

Yes.

[West Leas Oros 2]

As the great grandson of miners and pottery manufacturers, I’ve never been more proud. The Conservative party has a huge number of problems to sort out and needs to ideologically realign but today I am pleased that at last much of the working class realised that by voting for Labour they were voting for a leadership that despised them and sold them out long ago. It’s telling when Labour win Putney but lose Bolsover.

There are a fair few Labour MPs I do like and admire, both past and present like Peter Shore, Frank Field, Kate Hoey and such. But for the most part I can say good riddance to many MPs from a party that increasingly shows its disdain for Britain and British people.

Apparently turkeys voting for Christmas is a good thing now. Especially given how petty your definition of "disdain for Britain and British people" is.

Who eats Turkey on Christmas? Also yeah, the Tories are blatantly about "fuck the poor".

[Vassenor]

Apparently turkeys voting for Christmas is a good thing now. Especially given how petty your definition of "disdain for Britain and British people" is.

Who eats Turkey on Christmas? Also yeah, the Tories are blatantly about "fuck the poor".

But when Johnson says that the poor need to stay poor because politics of envy are good for society, clearly he cares about the working class.

Meanwhile Corbyn insisted on helping the homeless at Christmas and therefore hates everything the country stands for.

[Heloin]

Apparently turkeys voting for Christmas is a good thing now. Especially given how petty your definition of "disdain for Britain and British people" is.

Who eats Turkey on Christmas?

Lots of people.

Also yeah, the Tories are blatantly about "fuck the poor".

Was this ever in question?

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

I wonder when Nissan will announce they will shut the Sunderland plant.

[Vassenor]

Who eats Turkey on Christmas?

Lots of people.

Also yeah, the Tories are blatantly about "fuck the poor".

Was this ever in question?

Considering we're talking with someone who thinks it's the best thing ever that the working class has started voting CON, that the party is the only one that truly cares about them and stuff?

[Agarntrop]

random observations

1. The Welsh Lib Dems have been shut out for the second election in a row, and this time it wasn’t close. Their closest result was in Brecon and Radnorshire, where they lost by around 7000 votes. In Ceredigion they even fell behind the Tories.
2. The Tories gained both West Bromwich seats even though they had no Tory representation at the local level
3. Mansfield and Walsall North are now >60% Tory.
4. The SNP only won 47 (or 48) seats and was unable to hold NE Fife with a reduced majority
5. This is the first election where the Nationalists managed to get more seats than the Unionists. SF+SDLP are at 9 seats while the DUP holds 8. The Alliance took 1 seat but they’re neutral
6. All MPs who defected from one party to another have either left or lost their seats

7. The Lib Dems lost all seats that voted Leave.
8. Labour did worst in the working class constituencies which loathed Thatcher. They lost seats which were solidly Labour under Thatcher! Leigh, Burnley, Workington, even Doncaster North was close. How could the Party even claim to represent these people after this disaster? This isn’t like 1983 where everyone expected a loss, this year they lost when they expected a hung parliament and did worst among the people they claim to represent. That is an all-time low.

edit: point #8 made me so angry I made a grammatical error.

Although, Labour held on to seats in Lomdon that were solidly Tory even under Blair.

[Munkcestrian Republic]

i did, though

No you didn't, and pretending you did just reflects on you and how silly you are.

But please, do keep demonstrating that big brain of yours. How many (non-imaginary) people are in your little independence club?

I did, sorry. Not my fault you and the other one can't read pretty basic polling data.

you, a guy who joined NS in 2004, really going to give me shit over my desire for self-determination?

[Bears Armed]

Apparently turkeys voting for Christmas is a good thing now. Especially given how petty your definition of "disdain for Britain and British people" is.

Given the way in which Labour governments in this country inevitably fubar the economy, which among other things means that they can't maintain spending at the promised levels (allowing for the also-inevitable inflation) on the public services whose "saviours" they claim to be, it's any users of those services who vote Labour that are the "turkeys voting for Christmas".

[Munkcestrian Republic]

Apart from the bit where the majority of those who voted voted for pro-Remain parties.

who are pro remain?????????

still not replying..! Guess Tories don't want to face the truth huh

[Greater Loegria]

^again, i m not brit, nor i m ‘representative’ of common politics of my meditteranean country (which treats me as a dissenter).

i m not aknowledged of britain. what i feel, reading from abroad, is your giving complain to labour for the leave, not leave thing, it doesn t fit.

if labour had fault in the vote, i suggest, try to give clues about other things. britain will not leave eu in winter, not as it has been said. we know.

i mean, nothing in life is sure, yet this is not plausible. so i give my clue to you. what is the ‘british matter’, as seen from abroad:

if you say ‘we have to gain public healtcare and public schools’, you have to say ‘it will be harsh and lenghty’. you have to build it, as a cathedral.

not having public healthcare schools is your faiblesse, as labours say. about electoral vote: ‘conservatives’ had pact, so they gained. ‘others’, had not.

I beg your pardon?

Apparently turkeys voting for Christmas is a good thing now. Especially given how petty your definition of "disdain for Britain and British people" is.

Who eats Turkey on Christmas? Also yeah, the Tories are blatantly about "fuck the poor".

Most people eat turkey for Christmas.. maybe gammon or goose.
The Tory record on the poor isn’t great aye, but the working classes hate Corbyn more it seems.

Maybe white working class people want a party for them and not for inner city cosmopolitan progressives. Maybe shit like this is not what British people want.

[Munkcestrian Republic]

i did, though

Insisting you have done something when it is plainly obvious you haven't is just fucking silly.

me: "young people vote Labour and it actually hasn't been this bad for the Tories previously, despite what some people think"
someone else: "nuh-uh! look at these polls since 1974" (the polls actually agree with what i'm saying)
me: "actually, you're wrong and here's the numbers to back my statement up"
someone else: "IT IS YOUR ORIGINAL CLAIM THAT NEEDS TO BE PROVEN RIGHT"

[The New California Republic]

you, a guy who joined NS in 2004, really going to give me shit over my desire for self-determination?

How the fuck does the former part of this sentence relate to the latter?

[Salandriagado]

In all this effort being put in to “prove” how remain parties got a majority, you’re all ignoring one factor. That the SNP are actually a leave party.

The SNP disagrees.