UK Politics Thread XI: Boris' Big Bombastic Brexit Bash

[Salandriagado]

Momentum should change their name to Inertia.

Things going downhill often have a lot of momentum.

[Xerkivia]

The entire Remain establishment has been decimated and annihilated!! Scruffy man carrying tea makes everyone bend the knee.

[The New California Republic]

The entire Remain establishment has been decimated and annihilated!! Scruffy man carrying tea makes everyone bend the knee.

Nonsense. Lib Dems only lost a single seat, and gained vote share. I wouldn't call that "decimated and annihilated", what a load of shite.

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

Momentum should change their name to Inertia.

That implies stasis rather than actively going backwards.

'Counterincentive' would likely be a better antonym under the current circumstances.

I was going for resistance to changing direction

[Vassenor]

The entire Remain establishment has been decimated and annihilated!! Scruffy man carrying tea makes everyone bend the knee.

Apart from the bit where the majority of those who voted voted for pro-Remain parties.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

The entire Remain establishment has been decimated and annihilated!! Scruffy man carrying tea makes everyone bend the knee.

If by ‘decimated’ you mean ‘got a majority of the vote’, then sure.

[Hirota]

Because it's your original claim that needs to be proven right, not the challenge that needs to be proven wrong.

And you didn't.

i did, though

No you didn't, and pretending you did just reflects on you and how silly you are.

But please, do keep demonstrating that big brain of yours. How many (non-imaginary) people are in your little independence club?

[Hirota]

The entire Remain establishment has been decimated and annihilated!! Scruffy man carrying tea makes everyone bend the knee.

If by ‘decimated’ you mean ‘got a majority of the vote’, then sure.

I see lessons are not being learnt and silly justifications are being doubled down. Great job. I'm sure Labour will get back in power soon with that kind of big brain thinking.

I don't think the "remain" establishment was expecting anything other than a backlash. They knew exactly what was on the cards once they started backtracking during this campaign. But it wasn't good enough. For all the snotty elitist proclamations from that the working class are "too stupid" to understand the vote, they were smart enough to see through the hastily made promises of totally paying attention to the democratic will of the people the second time around. Of course the working class didn't believe Corbynistas and Swinsonites and Tiggers - they've been insulting their core electorate since 2017 in the interests of the chittering twatterati and celebrity idiots, and now it's come home to roost.

Apart from the bit where the majority of those who voted voted for pro-Remain parties.

You said there were no pro-remain parties, which was described as "idiotic." One of your idiotic statements is in direct conflict with the other...

[Definitely Not Trumptonium]

The entire Remain establishment has been decimated and annihilated!! Scruffy man carrying tea makes everyone bend the knee.

Apart from the bit where the majority of those who voted voted for pro-Remain parties.

who are pro remain?????????

[The New California Republic]

Because it's your original claim that needs to be proven right, not the challenge that needs to be proven wrong.

And you didn't.

i did, though

Insisting you have done something when it is plainly obvious you haven't is just fucking silly.

[Bears Armed]

So what will happen to Corbynism? He says he will resign, but not when,

He probably means "once he's made sure that the party leadership passes to a loyalist who will continue with his policies"...

[The Huskar Social Union]

Arlene Foster said the DUP's losses this election are because of a "Pan Nationalist Front" after the SDLP decided to step down in North Belfast to boost SInn Fein

*cough* using loyalist paramilitaries to threaten the UUP out of North Belfast after trying for ages to get a unionist pact *cough*

Also local cunt Jamie Bryson had a catastrophic meltdown on twitter over "Nationalist MP" Stephen Farry of Alliance won North Down.

You reap what you sow, be a bunch of cunts and you lose votes Arlene because moderate unionists dont want your shit, hope it happens again next election and that this also transfers to Assembly and Local elections.

[Vassenor]

So what will happen to Corbynism? He says he will resign, but not when,

He probably means "once he's made sure that the party leadership passes to a loyalist who will continue with his policies"...

I mean considering said policies themselves are popular with the electorate...

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

Jon Ashworth should put his name into the hat for Labour leader.

[Gormwood]

So what will happen to Corbynism? He says he will resign, but not when,

He probably means "once he's made sure that the party leadership passes to a loyalist who will continue with his policies"...

It's like a baseball team making sure a new manager continues to use Charlie Brown's playbook. Talk about insanity.

[The New California Republic]

So what will happen to Corbynism? He says he will resign, but not when,

He probably means "once he's made sure that the party leadership passes to a loyalist who will continue with his policies"...

The party needs to be deCorbynised from top to bottom, as any effort to preserve that current way of thinking will utterly destroy the party in the long term.

[Gormwood]

He probably means "once he's made sure that the party leadership passes to a loyalist who will continue with his policies"...

I mean considering said policies themselves are popular with the electorate...

Not popular enough to matter at the ballots unfortunately. It reeks of the Bradley Effect.

[The East Marches II]

He probably means "once he's made sure that the party leadership passes to a loyalist who will continue with his policies"...

It's like a baseball team making sure a new manager continues to use Charlie Brown's playbook. Talk about insanity.

I'm sure the DNC is proud their labour colleagues are following their lead :^)

[The Archregimancy]

The fact that there are sentient adults still trying to argue that Labour was a pro-Remain party in this election, in direct contradiction of the Labour party's own commitment to negotiate its own Leave deal and then hold a second confirmatory referendum on that deal, and that the result therefore proves that a slim majority of voters voted for pro-Remain parties... I can't even begin to...

I'm going to log off for a while in case this leads me to do or say something incompatible with my status as a site moderator.

The anger over the result clearly isn't going away. I need some down time.

[The Blaatschapen]

The fact that there are sentient adults still trying to argue that Labour was a pro-Remain party in this election, in direct contradiction of the Labour party's own commitment to negotiate its own Leave deal and then hold a second confirmatory referendum on that deal, and that the result therefore proves that a slim majority of voters voted for pro-Remain parties... I can't even begin to...

I'm going to log off for a while in case this leads me to do or say something incompatible with my status as a site moderator.

The anger over the result clearly isn't going away. I need some down time.

Take care, and enjoy the fact that you're far away from the actual drama in the UK itself

[The New California Republic]

The fact that there are sentient adults still trying to argue that Labour was a pro-Remain party in this election, in direct contradiction of the Labour party's own commitment to negotiate its own Leave deal and then hold a second confirmatory referendum on that deal, and that the result therefore proves that a slim majority of voters voted for pro-Remain parties... I can't even begin to...

I'm going to log off for a while in case this leads me to do or say something incompatible with my status as a site moderator.

The anger over the result clearly isn't going away. I need some down time.

I mean, Labour did dither for a long time over whether they were pro-Remain or not, but they made it abundantly clear before the election that they were not; so there really is no excuse to consider them a pro-Remain party.

[Alvecia]

Arlene Foster said the DUP's losses this election are because of a "Pan Nationalist Front" after the SDLP decided to step down in North Belfast to boost SInn Fein

*cough* using loyalist paramilitaries to threaten the UUP out of North Belfast after trying for ages to get a unionist pact *cough*

Also local cunt Jamie Bryson had a catastrophic meltdown on twitter over "Nationalist MP" Stephen Farry of Alliance won North Down.

You reap what you sow, be a bunch of cunts and you lose votes Arlene because moderate unionists dont want your shit, hope it happens again next election and that this also transfers to Assembly and Local elections.

At least someone is having fun

[Salandriagado]

The entire Remain establishment has been decimated and annihilated!! Scruffy man carrying tea makes everyone bend the knee.

Looks to me like the pro-Remain parties gained vote share. LD +4.2, SNP +0.8, Green +1.1, SF -0.2, PC +0.0, Alliance +0.2, total +6.1%. Compared to the Pro-leave side's +1.4%.

[Bears Armed]

With Corbyn "neutral" on the subject, negotiating Labour's supposedly-to-be-superior deal would presumably have been left in the hands of McDonnell, Sharmer, and Thornberry... all of whom were pro-Remain.
The most likely product of that process would therefore have been a deal that was 'Brexit in name only'.
And then, according to announcements already made by senior Labour members, the franchise for the new referendum would have been extended to include both [16 & 17]-year-olds (whom it was widely thought would be more likely to vote 'Remain' than 'Leave') and those nationals of all [other] EU countries* who are resident here (ditto): They might not have been openly proclaiming themselves as a pro-Remain party but it was therefore fairly obvious that giving them responsibility for carrying out Brexit would have led to a situation weighted strongly in favour of a 'Remain' result...


(* in addition to the ones who already have full voting rights here as a legacy from when their homelands were in the Empire...)

[Lower Nubia]

The fact that there are sentient adults still trying to argue that Labour was a pro-Remain party in this election, in direct contradiction of the Labour party's own commitment to negotiate its own Leave deal and then hold a second confirmatory referendum on that deal, and that the result therefore proves that a slim majority of voters voted for pro-Remain parties... I can't even begin to...

I'm going to log off for a while in case this leads me to do or say something incompatible with my status as a site moderator.

The anger over the result clearly isn't going away. I need some down time.

Pro-referendum, is what those parties were. The majority of voters voted for pro-referendum parties.