UK Politics Thread XI: Boris' Big Bombastic Brexit Bash

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

Moscow is ecstatic over five more years of British ancap pussydom.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Alright so national results, absolute clusterfuck, this place is screwed, im quickly entering a period of "I dont give a fuck" about mainland UK politics, just like i was prior to 2015.


Locally however.... i was kind of.. happy with how it turned out, very much so (as some of you witnessed in this very thread) so im gona do a little breakdown of how things went in Northern Ireland last night:

OVERALL PERCENTAGE OF VOTE:

DUP 30.6%
Sinn Féin 22.8%
Alliance Party 16.8%
SDLP 14.9%
UUP 11.7%
Aontú 1.2%
Others:2.0%

VOTE SHARE CHANGE FROM 2017:
DUP: -5.4%
Sinn Fein: -6.7%
Alliance Party: +8.8
SDLP: 3.1%
UUP: 1.4%
Aontu: 1.2%

SEATS:
DUP: 8 -2
Sinn Fein: 7 NOC)
Alliance Party: 1 +1
SDLP: 2 +2
Oths: 0 -1

DUP lost North and South Belfast, Sinn Fein lost Foyle but gained North Belfast, Alliance gained North Down, SDLP gained Foyle and South Belfast.

I am over the moon with this result, 3/4 MP's in Belfast are Nationalist, the DUP only held East Belfast by 1800 votes with Alliance right behind them. Alliance took North Down which i thought would go DUP, and the SDLP took Foyle as well as South Belfast giving them 2 MP's. DUP and Sinn Fein's vote share is down quite considerably, with the Alliance party enjoying quite a large swing in their favour, moving into second place in several Unionist dominated areas ahead of the UUP.

I was honestly surprised how much of a beating Sinn Fein took last night, they didnt lose any seats but their vote share got obliterated in some constituencies, down 19% in Foyle, down 12.9% in my home constituency of West Belfast. But despite that they balanced out in seats, as i mentioned above, losing one but taking another.

The DUP and Loyalism are the big losers of this election easily, the DUP took some serious hits in Belfast and lost a fair few votes in other seats they held onto, making it likely someone, namely alliance might be able to try and wrestle them away from them in the future.

Nationalism did really well last night, with three historic wins, taking North Belfast and getting a majority of MP's in Belfast, and the SDLP picked up its votes as Sinn Fein's dropped, evening it out a bit. And overall, there are now more Nationalist MP's than there are Unionist MP's, 9-7 which is fucking monumental.

Alliance also did really well last night, taking a seat, coming close to taking another and moving solidly into second place in several other constituencies and enjoying the biggest swing in the vote, it seems the surge from the local and MEP elections continued on. THE YELLOW TIDE BITCHES YE YE YE YE YE

It’s a pity Alliance only got one seat. One poll had them on 3 and they honestly would have deserved that result. Still, anything that makes the DUP quiver in the night is a satisfactory outcome in my books.

It is, but honestly as an Alliance support im over the moon, they did soo fucking well this year, its incredible.

[The New California Republic]

You weren't here last night when I said that Swinson going was the icing on the cake, as that was exactly what I was hoping for, so using that to try to rain on my parade is wide of the mark buddy.

I wasn't here last night because I was sleeping because I wasn't staying up to watch fucking Bolsover go blue

Whatever, the point is that your attempt at a dig utterly failed.

[Munkcestrian Republic]

I wasn't here last night because I was sleeping because I wasn't staying up to watch fucking Bolsover go blue

Whatever, the point is that your attempt at a dig utterly failed.

Wasn't making a dig

[Turbofolkia]

Imagine 30 years ago saying that places like Sedgefield (Blair's old seat) and Rother Valley (the site of the Battle of Orgreave) would one day vote Conservative. Incredible.

[The New California Republic]

Whatever, the point is that your attempt at a dig utterly failed.

Wasn't making a dig

Sure you fucking weren't, sure.

[Munkcestrian Republic]

Wasn't making a dig

Sure you fucking weren't, sure.

If I was making a dig I wouldn't have failed

[Lower Nubia]

Counter intuitively, are you thinking that rural NI is becoming unionist, while the cities are becoming republican?

Not necessarily, SInn Fein held onto the border regions which are quite rural, especially Fermanagh and South Tyrone, and West Tyrone.

I think its a combination of two things, anti DUP voting by moderate unionists and remainers, and the gradual Demographic change that was bound to happen eventually. There is a significant chunk of Unionists who were pro remain too, and that has only risen over time from what ive seen in the polls, so the DUP being pro brexit and helping reside over the shit show for the last few years has turned on them, causing many voters to go to the Alliance party.

The Unionist population is also not growing as fast the Nationalist population is, so it was bound to happen eventually that places like North Belfast, which is split down the middle in terms of demographics, would flip. Finucane being the lord mayor of Belfast, and his family's past such as his fathers murder in the troubles, probably helped his campaign a good bit in getting more nationalists out to vote.

Interesting. Good if the DUP are not long for this world I will be happier with their removal.

How long has NI been without government now?

[Munkcestrian Republic]

Imagine 30 years ago saying that places like Sedgefield (Blair's old seat) and Rother Valley (the site of the Battle of Orgreave) would one day vote Conservative. Incredible.

Sedgefield really isn't surprising, it's rural and Tory now

[The New California Republic]

Sure you fucking weren't, sure.

If I was making a dig I wouldn't have failed

Sure buddy.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Not necessarily, SInn Fein held onto the border regions which are quite rural, especially Fermanagh and South Tyrone, and West Tyrone.

I think its a combination of two things, anti DUP voting by moderate unionists and remainers, and the gradual Demographic change that was bound to happen eventually. There is a significant chunk of Unionists who were pro remain too, and that has only risen over time from what ive seen in the polls, so the DUP being pro brexit and helping reside over the shit show for the last few years has turned on them, causing many voters to go to the Alliance party.

The Unionist population is also not growing as fast the Nationalist population is, so it was bound to happen eventually that places like North Belfast, which is split down the middle in terms of demographics, would flip. Finucane being the lord mayor of Belfast, and his family's past such as his fathers murder in the troubles, probably helped his campaign a good bit in getting more nationalists out to vote.

Interesting. Good if the DUP are not long for this world I will be happier with their removal.

How long has NI been without government now?

Over 3 years. DUP's losses this election could do one of two things, force them to try and get back into government to get a resurgence of unionist voting for "making progress" and thus, have to make a deal with Sinn Fein to form a government, or they will double down on their no surrender policy and try and win back votes that way.

[Turbofolkia]

Imagine 30 years ago saying that places like Sedgefield (Blair's old seat) and Rother Valley (the site of the Battle of Orgreave) would one day vote Conservative. Incredible.

Sedgefield really isn't surprising, it's rural and Tory now

Labour won it with a majority of over 6,000 in 2017 and it was historically a mining area. I wonder what Blair must be thinking now.

[Lower Nubia]

Sedgefield really isn't surprising, it's rural and Tory now

Labour won it with a majority of over 6,000 in 2017 and it was historically a mining area. I wonder what Blair must be thinking now.

"I Haven't got long before the Hague get me!"

[Vassenor]

Moscow is ecstatic over five more years of British ancap pussydom.

But I thought Russia was supposed to be propping up Labour which is why they leaked the NHS dossier to ruin the Cons.

[The Huskar Social Union]

With apologies to OP Huskar, I have given us a new poll.

I considered making F.U.C.K.K.N.I.C.K.E.R.S. the joke option, but was worried it might win.

Arch is like my co-op at this stage, im either at work, sleeping or staving off depression whenever a poll needs changed.

Im also trying to think of a new title to reflect the election

[Pasong Tirad]

Counter intuitively, are you thinking that rural NI is becoming unionist, while the cities are becoming republican?

Not necessarily, SInn Fein held onto the border regions which are quite rural, especially Fermanagh and South Tyrone, and West Tyrone.

I think its a combination of two things, anti DUP voting by moderate unionists and remainers, and the gradual Demographic change that was bound to happen eventually. There is a significant chunk of Unionists who were pro remain too, and that has only risen over time from what ive seen in the polls, so the DUP being pro brexit and helping reside over the shit show for the last few years has turned on them, causing many voters to go to the Alliance party.

The Unionist population is also not growing as fast the Nationalist population is, so it was bound to happen eventually that places like North Belfast, which is split down the middle in terms of demographics, would flip. Finucane being the lord mayor of Belfast, and his family's past such as his fathers murder in the troubles, probably helped his campaign a good bit in getting more nationalists out to vote.

So, you're saying the Nationalists are literally going to breed the Unionist vote out of its majority?

[The New California Republic]

With apologies to OP Huskar, I have given us a new poll.

I considered making F.U.C.K.K.N.I.C.K.E.R.S. the joke option, but was worried it might win.

Arch is like my co-op at this stage, im either at work, sleeping or staving off depression whenever a poll needs changed.

Im also trying to think of a new title to reflect the election

That reminds me, Arch will likely be happy about the result in my constituency. May telegram him later.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Not necessarily, SInn Fein held onto the border regions which are quite rural, especially Fermanagh and South Tyrone, and West Tyrone.

I think its a combination of two things, anti DUP voting by moderate unionists and remainers, and the gradual Demographic change that was bound to happen eventually. There is a significant chunk of Unionists who were pro remain too, and that has only risen over time from what ive seen in the polls, so the DUP being pro brexit and helping reside over the shit show for the last few years has turned on them, causing many voters to go to the Alliance party.

The Unionist population is also not growing as fast the Nationalist population is, so it was bound to happen eventually that places like North Belfast, which is split down the middle in terms of demographics, would flip. Finucane being the lord mayor of Belfast, and his family's past such as his fathers murder in the troubles, probably helped his campaign a good bit in getting more nationalists out to vote.

So, you're saying the Nationalists are literally going to breed the Unionist vote out of its majority?

Thats the way its been predicted for a long time, there are larger number of people identifying as nationalist as opposed to unionist in younger generations, tho the number of both is falling in favour of people who identify as neither. Unionism definitely leans more towards the older generations, and Nationalism towards the younger generations.

The Catholic and Protestant populations are also pretty much neck and neck for the last few years, tho being a catholic does not necessarily mean you are a nationalist, and being a protestant doesnt necessarily mean you are a unionist. But its been happening for a while, Unionism has become entrenched in sectarianism more than Nationalism has in my opinion, and younger people dont really want that shit.

[Pasong Tirad]

Also, electoral reform when?

[Greater vakolicci haven]

So:

Tl;dr: we're all very very happy about the result of this election and will be celebrating today.

[Lower Nubia]

Also, electoral reform when?

Never. Like the Conservatives want that.

[The Huskar Social Union]

So:

Tl;dr: we're all very very happy about the result of this election and will be celebrating today.

No.


Well... 50/50 for me. Northern Ireland? YAY! Rest of the UK: ARGFHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[Greater vakolicci haven]

So, you're saying the Nationalists are literally going to breed the Unionist vote out of its majority?

Thats the way its been predicted for a long time, there are larger number of people identifying as nationalist as opposed to unionist in younger generations, tho the number of both is falling in favour of people who identify as neither. Unionism definitely leans more towards the older generations, and Nationalism towards the younger generations.

The Catholic and Protestant populations are also pretty much neck and neck for the last few years, tho being a catholic does not necessarily mean you are a nationalist, and being a protestant doesnt necessarily mean you are a unionist. But its been happening for a while, Unionism has become entrenched in sectarianism more than Nationalism has in my opinion, and younger people dont really want that shit.

I'm sure I heard a while ago that the orange order was dying out, and everyone was obviously so so devastated that a group providing so much shit was going away.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Thats the way its been predicted for a long time, there are larger number of people identifying as nationalist as opposed to unionist in younger generations, tho the number of both is falling in favour of people who identify as neither. Unionism definitely leans more towards the older generations, and Nationalism towards the younger generations.

The Catholic and Protestant populations are also pretty much neck and neck for the last few years, tho being a catholic does not necessarily mean you are a nationalist, and being a protestant doesnt necessarily mean you are a unionist. But its been happening for a while, Unionism has become entrenched in sectarianism more than Nationalism has in my opinion, and younger people dont really want that shit.

I'm sure I heard a while ago that the orange order was dying out, and everyone was obviously so so devastated that a group providing so much shit was going away.

The Orange Order should fuck off, so hopefully it will die off soon.

[The Huskar Social Union]