UK Politics Thread XI: Boris' Big Bombastic Brexit Bash

[Souseiseki]

SNP 50 is officially dead. ruth is safe.

[The Huskar Social Union]

And an actual anti-Semite, racist and homophobe who openly despises working class Britons.

And, career-wise, he is the Tory failson to end all Tory failson. A man who's been failing upwards his entire life, not having a single good policy in his name and owing his only victory until now to a lie.

Then how come he’s PM?

He must be extraordinary in some way no?

Because brits love cunts

[Hirota]

My MP increased her majority - not because she got more votes, but because Labour lost 7% of their vote compared to 2017.

[Liriena]

My MP increased her majority - not because she got more votes, but because Labour lost 7% of their vote compared to 2017.

Yeah, a sizeable drop in Labour turnout compared to 2017 seems to be the name of the game here.

[Bombadil]

Having said all that.. if you tally actual votes so far then..

Tories - 13.4M
Labour - 10M
SNP - 1.1M
Lib - 3.4M

Greens cancel out Brexit party but, simply, more than a 1M+ voters voted against the Tories, frankly the Tories have everything stacked for them to gain a majority of seats.. it really doesn't matter how voters turn out.

[Purgatio]

And an actual anti-Semite, racist and homophobe who openly despises working class Britons.

And, career-wise, he is the Tory failson to end all Tory failson. A man who's been failing upwards his entire life, not having a single good policy in his name and owing his only victory until now to a lie.

Then how come he’s PM?

He must be extraordinary in some way no?

He's won a stunning mandate and a large majority from the public, I'd say that's fairly extraordinary and impressive

[San Lumen]

And an actual anti-Semite, racist and homophobe who openly despises working class Britons.

And, career-wise, he is the Tory failson to end all Tory failson. A man who's been failing upwards his entire life, not having a single good policy in his name and owing his only victory until now to a lie.

Then how come he’s PM?

He must be extraordinary in some way no?

Because people voted for his members of his party and the people in his own constituency apparently like him. and they want a no deal Brexit and to suffer for the next five years.

[Bombadil]

Then how come he’s PM?

He must be extraordinary in some way no?

He's won a stunning mandate and a large majority from the public, I'd say that's fairly extraordinary and impressive

Except that's not true in actual vote tallies.

[San Lumen]

I would have thought with the prospect of no deal Brexit conservatives would have lost the constituency of Cities of London and Westminster. Anyone know why they held it?

[Bombadil]

I would have thought with the prospect of no deal Brexit conservatives would have lost the constituency of Cities of London and Westminster. Anyone know why they held it?

They stand to gain the very most from being a tax haven for the rich and criminal.

[San Lumen]

I would have thought with the prospect of no deal Brexit conservatives would have lost the constituency of Cities of London and Westminster. Anyone know why they held it?

They stand to gain the very most from being a tax haven for the rich and criminal.

But a no deal Brexit means the bankers would suffer greatly

[Purgatio]

He's won a stunning mandate and a large majority from the public, I'd say that's fairly extraordinary and impressive

Except that's not true in actual vote tallies.

By the time the full results come up in the Conservatives are expected to cross the 360 seat threshold, by any reasonable measure a thumping majority and an impressive and conclusive democratic victory

[Purgatio]

I would have thought with the prospect of no deal Brexit conservatives would have lost the constituency of Cities of London and Westminster. Anyone know why they held it?

They stand to gain the very most from being a tax haven for the rich and criminal.

What do you have against tax havens? Tax havens are wonderful.

[San Lumen]

Except that's not true in actual vote tallies.

By the time the full results come up in the Conservatives are expected to cross the 360 seat threshold, by any reasonable measure a thumping majority and an impressive and conclusive democratic victory

I hope the British people enjoy the five years of suffering under a no deal Brexit if that indeed happens.

[Bombadil]

They stand to gain the very most from being a tax haven for the rich and criminal.

But a no deal Brexit means the bankers would suffer greatly

No no, the City of London makes money from former tax free colonies such as Bermuda and the British Virgin Islands, their status is what was under threat from the EU. Now they're safe for criminal and tax avoiding rich to stash their wealth on the advice and consult of wealth managers in the UK, the stock market is a secondary concern.

So well done financial advisers, investment platforms and fund managers. You take a percentage of your clients’ invested assets year after year — a wealth tax if ever there was one. Of course, these taxes are shrouded in secrecy. It has taken a European directive to get even nominal “transparency” through this blanket. Many charges remain hidden either by those who believe they have found ways to sneak them past the rules or by those who are not yet fully complying 21 months after they should have been.

[Greater Loegria]

They stand to gain the very most from being a tax haven for the rich and criminal.

But a no deal Brexit means the bankers would suffer greatly

Good

[Bombadil]

They stand to gain the very most from being a tax haven for the rich and criminal.

What do you have against tax havens? Tax havens are wonderful.

Time and again they are found to harbour criminal money and avoidance money. Yet no one has any control over them, even the UK officially says it has no control over them though they do.. it's just a vast money laundering program where the City of London creams off the top.

Anyway, again, the majority of voters in the UK voted against the Tories, not for.. it's just a fact of a rigged system that gives the Tories such a huge advantage in seats.

[San Lumen]

But a no deal Brexit means the bankers would suffer greatly

No no, the City of London makes money from former tax free colonies such as Bermuda and the British Virgin Islands, their status is what was under threat from the EU. Now they're safe for criminal and tax avoiding rich to stash their wealth on the advice and consult of wealth managers in the UK, the stock market is a secondary concern.

So well done financial advisers, investment platforms and fund managers. You take a percentage of your clients’ invested assets year after year — a wealth tax if ever there was one. Of course, these taxes are shrouded in secrecy. It has taken a European directive to get even nominal “transparency” through this blanket. Many charges remain hidden either by those who believe they have found ways to sneak them past the rules or by those who are not yet fully complying 21 months after they should have been.

I hope the British people enjoy yet another way a likely no deal Brexit will screw them over. Hopefully the government is bought down before the five years is up but i wont hold my breath. Im glad im not the in the UK right now. Its improbable Brussels keeps giving them extensions. They will probably force them into a no deal

[Risottia]

So, It looks like Tories and Brexit being a "boomer" thing wasn't that true after all, was it?

Well, so we're finally getting out of these endless Brexlayings, Scotland is getting Indyref2, looks like Christmas has come earlier for the EU.

[San Lumen]

But a no deal Brexit means the bankers would suffer greatly

Good

Look at that. You and I agree on something.

[Dooom35796821595]

So, It looks like Tories and Brexit being a "boomer" thing wasn't that true after all, was it?

Well, so we're finally getting out of these endless Brexlayings, Scotland is getting Indyref2, looks like Christmas has come earlier for the EU.

No, Scotland isn’t getting a new referendum, Boris ruled it out.

[San Lumen]

So, It looks like Tories and Brexit being a "boomer" thing wasn't that true after all, was it?

Well, so we're finally getting out of these endless Brexlayings, Scotland is getting Indyref2, looks like Christmas has come earlier for the EU.

No, Scotland isn’t getting a new referendum, Boris ruled it out.

Then they will likely hold one without the support of Westminster considering the SNP's biggest thing is that. That should be fun.

[The Archregimancy]

I'm actually not feeling too bad at the moment, but I shouldn't be happy because I'm a Lib Dem remainer. Perhaps the sheer power of anti-Labour schadenfreude is powering me through.

I'm in a not dissimilar position.

But in my case it's not schadenfreude - at the end of the day I'd much rather Labour do well than the Tories - it's sheer cold unmitigated fury at the way Labour, more specifically Momentum, have facilitated the walking disaster of Corbyn's leadership for so long, and the consequences we now have to put up with.

I can't bring myself to type more. It wouldn't be a good look for a moderator to break the site rules.

[Dooom35796821595]

No, Scotland isn’t getting a new referendum, Boris ruled it out.

Then they will likely hold one without the support of Westminster considering the SNP's biggest thing is that. That should be fun.

Then I look forward to the SNP members being jailed for sedition.

[Purgatio]

What do you have against tax havens? Tax havens are wonderful.

Time and again they are found to harbour criminal money and avoidance money. Yet no one has any control over them, even the UK officially says it has no control over them though they do.. it's just a vast money laundering program where the City of London creams off the top.

Anyway, again, the majority of voters in the UK voted against the Tories, not for.. it's just a fact of a rigged system that gives the Tories such a huge advantage in seats.

Criminal proceeds I may see the issue, but tax avoidance is a lawful and legitimate strategy, you aren't under any obligation to pay more taxes than you are legally-obligated to pay, everything else is gratuitous charity.

And yes FPTP isn't perfect but the Conservatives have the highest vote share of any of the other party, its a bit disingenuous to say everyone else voted "against" the Tories since they voted "against" all the other parties too, so it doesn't delegitimise the Conservative victory to point that out, because its not like they are one united front against the Conservatives. At the end of the day more people voted for the Conservatives than any other party and that's what matters far more.