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Who do you support to become the next Labour Party Leader?

Clive Lewis (DROPPED OUT)
2
2%
Keir Starmer (Shadow Brexit Secretary, MP for Holborn and St Pancras)
48
41%
Lisa Nandy (MP for Wigan)
11
9%
Jess Phillips (DROPPED OUT)
17
15%
Emily Thornberry (Shadow First Secretary of State, MP for Islington South and Finsbury)
7
6%
Yvette Cooper (DROPPED OUT)
1
1%
Dan Jarvis (DROPPED OUT)
1
1%
Ian Lavery (DROPPED OUT)
1
1%
Rebecca Long Bailey (Shadow Business Secretary, MP for Salford and Eccles)
17
15%
Other (Please state who in a reply)
11
9%
 
Total votes : 116

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Postby Liriena » Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:23 pm

Greater Loegria wrote:
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Removing LGBT stuff from schools until high school? Like, you mean, sex ed? Is teaching kids that they should use condoms when they have sex, gay or straight, suddenly a bad thing now? Or are you talking about bringing back Section 28 to the UK? Even though it blocked anti-bullying campaigns in public schools?

No this is about drag queens doing ‘story hour’ in primary schools.

...that's it? That's the scary LGBTQ stuff?

They're drag queens. They're beyond inoffensive unless you're a cop.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:23 pm

Liriena wrote:
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Lol. We let progressives have a say and the country is literally going to fracture into pieces because that is 0referaboe to the majority.

Well then. Back to the drawing board.

Let's say British nationalism... but it's specifically anti-Tory and also anti-feminist of the "TRANS RIGHTS OK" variety? Just tell me how far you want me to turn the big dial that says "nationalism for non-nonces".


I say this as a friend but it's not a matter of telling you. You are the sort of person who is we need to accept is no longer a valid participant in the discussion, that is, until the working classes control Labour again at least. No justification or discussion is required nor should it be sought. This also applies to me.

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Postby The Two Jerseys » Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:24 pm

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Postby Vashty » Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:24 pm

The Nihilistic view wrote:
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Well I feel relief more than anything I think. For the first time I think Brexit will get over the line, I've not thought that before.



give it longer than the next month mate, let's be realistic
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Postby Definitely Not Trumptonium » Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:24 pm

Corbyn resigns.
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Postby Purgatio » Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:24 pm

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
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I witnessed a few Pride Parades in Oxford the years I was there, and I gotta say, I don't recall the BDSM gear and the phallic props. I just remember rainbow flags and people marching. Did I miss something?

Some pride parades actually ban the bdsm pride flag.


....what is a BDSM Pride flag?
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Postby Souseiseki » Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:24 pm

Napkizemlja wrote:Anyone angry at English nationalism should maybe stop and think that maybe once the UK decided to become a federal country it shouldn't half ass it and deny England (or at least the various regions of England) some form of autonomy. Take it from someone that lives in a federation (crypto-confederation but that's neither here nor there) that kind of resentment is eeeeeassssy to build up and unless it's addressed it will generally lash out without a care in the world. Trying to be a federal state while not being one is a recipe for disaster.


i mean well that's england's fault isn't it? they're the ones with all the political power and iirc they voted against more autonomy for english regions when given the chance. admittedly the system as it stands is super dumb, but we're effectively just going along with what england decided to give us.

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you know damn well


Well I feel relief more than anything I think. For the first time I think Brexit will get over the line, I've not thought that before.


enjoy this brief respite, for brexit the issues with brexit will arise again shortly

speaking of which, SNP 55, teehee
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Postby Vashty » Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:25 pm

Greater Loegria wrote:
Purgatio wrote:
Removing LGBT stuff from schools until high school? Like, you mean, sex ed? Is teaching kids that they should use condoms when they have sex, gay or straight, suddenly a bad thing now? Or are you talking about bringing back Section 28 to the UK? Even though it blocked anti-bullying campaigns in public schools?

No this is about drag queens doing ‘story hour’ in primary schools. People can learn about gay sex in highschool -fine. But before then sexuality should be completely removed from lower education. It’s just not appropriate. The same goes for pride parades. People walking about with rainbow glitter on their cheeks? Eh, bigger fish to be frying. People cutting about in bdsm gear in a large city when children are out and about, not to mention overt phallic props and symbols. Just no. No.

This isn’t about homophobia it’s about public decency.



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Postby Souseiseki » Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:26 pm

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
Purgatio wrote:
I witnessed a few Pride Parades in Oxford the years I was there, and I gotta say, I don't recall the BDSM gear and the phallic props. I just remember rainbow flags and people marching. Did I miss something?

Some pride parades actually ban the bdsm pride flag.


oh of course they do. the LGBT community, despite the crossover in the persecution of the LGBT community and the BDSM community, are all too happy to throw BDSM under the bus for political convenience. never believe this "oh we're so tolerant we're so progressive we love everyone" bullshit.
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Postby Shrillland » Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:26 pm

Definitely Not Trumptonium wrote:Corbyn resigns.


Well, after tonight, I'm not surprised. Now the question is who will replace him?..when the dust from this dies down, of course.
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Postby Aureumterra » Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:26 pm

Definitely Not Trumptonium wrote:Corbyn resigns.

Good riddance
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:26 pm

Will someone play Corbyn off already?
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:26 pm

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Your old seat just turned blue,
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:26 pm

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The Nihilistic view wrote:Who's enjoying themselves this evening? Or have I just entered the pit of despair?

I’m on a coach from Aberdeen to London and apparently we’re not allowed to drink alcohol on board so I’m mightily miffed and it’s hot enough in here to make pastry rise.


Should have brought some Angus steak and made a beef Wellington!
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Postby Thanatttynia » Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:26 pm

BXP candidate behind Corbyn seems to think he's at a pantomime
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Postby Dresderstan » Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:27 pm

And Tony Blair's seat has fallen.

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Postby Aureumterra » Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:27 pm

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I'm rooting for the Icelandic Pirate Party.

Pirates are opposed to her too, no one likes her

But not the topic, so nvm
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Postby Shrillland » Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:27 pm

Conservatives also take High Peak...Blair's seat's fallen. Good enough for his legacy as I see it.
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The Two Jerseys wrote:Brexit Party ran a Jew against Corbyn.

Fucking savage.


That's actually pretty funny, they should have all done that. :lol:
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Definitely Not Trumptonium wrote:Corbyn resigns.

Good riddance

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Postby Souseiseki » Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:27 pm

cons have actually won a seat in scotland. one of the exit poll was predicting SNP. worrying.
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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:27 pm

Purgatio wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Some pride parades actually ban the bdsm pride flag.


....what is a BDSM Pride flag?


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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:27 pm

Purgatio wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Some pride parades actually ban the bdsm pride flag.


....what is a BDSM Pride flag?

Something I'm not willing to search for without sight and post on the forum in case I end up posting the wrong thing.
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Postby Purgatio » Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:28 pm

Souseiseki wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Some pride parades actually ban the bdsm pride flag.


oh of course they do. the LGBT community, despite the crossover in the persecution of the LGBT community and the BDSM community, are all too happy to throw BDSM under the bus for political convenience. never believe this "oh we're so tolerant we're so progressive we love everyone" bullshit.


Except no one is born with a "BDSM sexual orientation", and people who practice BDSM aren't denied marriage rights, adoption rights, the ability to donate blood, parents don't send children to BDSM conversion camps, so yeah, not exactly seeing the systemic oppression here
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Postby Thanatttynia » Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:28 pm

Souseiseki wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Some pride parades actually ban the bdsm pride flag.


oh of course they do. the LGBT community, despite the crossover in the persecution of the LGBT community and the BDSM community, are all too happy to throw BDSM under the bus for political convenience. never believe this "oh we're so tolerant we're so progressive we love everyone" bullshit.

You jest, surely. The persecution of the BDSM community? I beg lets not cheapen gay liberation like that
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