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Who do you support to become the next Labour Party Leader?

Clive Lewis (DROPPED OUT)
2
2%
Keir Starmer (Shadow Brexit Secretary, MP for Holborn and St Pancras)
48
41%
Lisa Nandy (MP for Wigan)
11
9%
Jess Phillips (DROPPED OUT)
17
15%
Emily Thornberry (Shadow First Secretary of State, MP for Islington South and Finsbury)
7
6%
Yvette Cooper (DROPPED OUT)
1
1%
Dan Jarvis (DROPPED OUT)
1
1%
Ian Lavery (DROPPED OUT)
1
1%
Rebecca Long Bailey (Shadow Business Secretary, MP for Salford and Eccles)
17
15%
Other (Please state who in a reply)
11
9%
 
Total votes : 116

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Postby The Two Jerseys » Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:15 pm

The mayor of Richmond doesn't sound like a local...
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Postby Purgatio » Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:15 pm

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Lib dems take Richmond park from the conservatives.


So Goldsmith lost his seat? That's nice, never been a fan of his
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Postby Liriena » Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:15 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Purgatio wrote:
That's wonderful, as long as the successor isn't from the crazy radical Corbynite hard left of the party who are responsible for today's result, I'm good.


Nationalising rail mail and water - 60%.


Even calling yourself a feminist let alone other fringe hateful shit - 20%.


Sounds like a winner, just so long as you guys can keep being in denial and blame her for being too economically right wing when she does even worse as you conti ue to alienate people who arent nazis by another name.

Yeah, so, we can add this to the pile of reasons why the left should never listen to centrists, eh?
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Postby Shrillland » Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:15 pm

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:15 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:DUP hold East Belfast by 1800 votes

Sooo fucking close!

ALLIANCE UP 8.9%
UUP UP 2.6%
DUP DOWN 6.6%


DUP total: 49.2%
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Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:
Purgatio wrote:
That's wonderful, as long as the successor isn't from the crazy radical Corbynite hard left of the party who are responsible for today's result, I'm good.

Perhaps a cautionary tale for the Democratic Party of the US in 2020? Especially considering that the Dems overall are further right than Labour


Absolutely, if there's any lesson learnt tonight its that when the country's big centre-left party elects a party leader way too far left, electability drops. Good lesson for the Dems and future Labour voters to keep in mind.
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Who's enjoying themselves this evening? Or have I just entered the pit of despair?
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:16 pm

Purgatio wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Lib dems take Richmond park from the conservatives.


So Goldsmith lost his seat? That's nice, never been a fan of his

Really? How come?
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Postby Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana » Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:16 pm

Souseiseki wrote:so as it stands it seems likely that scottish nationalists will desstroy in scotland, irish nationalists will win a majority in northern ireland and the tories are basically english nationalists at this point. a big oof for the union tonight.

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Postby Ostroeuropa » Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:16 pm

Souseiseki wrote:so as it stands it seems likely that scottish nationalists will desstroy in scotland, irish nationalists will win a majority in northern ireland and the tories are basically english nationalists at this point. a big oof for the union tonight.


Lol. We let progressives have a say and the country is literally going to fracture into pieces because that is 0referaboe to the majority.
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The Nihilistic view wrote:Who's enjoying themselves this evening? Or have I just entered the pit of despair?


I am, at least. The results are wonderful. :) :)
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Which reminds me, did the Adder Party win Dunny-on-the-Wold?
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The Nihilistic view wrote:Who's enjoying themselves this evening? Or have I just entered the pit of despair?


you know damn well
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The Nihilistic view wrote:Who's enjoying themselves this evening? Or have I just entered the pit of despair?

I'm very happy right now.
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Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:
Souseiseki wrote:so as it stands it seems likely that scottish nationalists will desstroy in scotland, irish nationalists will win a majority in northern ireland and the tories are basically english nationalists at this point. a big oof for the union tonight.

Wales: Am I a joke to you?!

But seriously, Welsh identity has only really been a thing recently

Wales better make up its mind. The Glorious Celtic Union won't wait for them.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:17 pm

Souseiseki wrote:so as it stands it seems likely that scottish nationalists will desstroy in scotland, irish nationalists will win a majority in northern ireland and the tories are basically english nationalists at this point. a big oof for the union tonight.

Mike Nesbit said tonight that the biggest threat to the union was not Irish nationalism, nor Scottish Nationalism but English Nationalism


If only more Unionist Politicians has his fucking foresight
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:17 pm

Purgatio wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Lib dems take Richmond park from the conservatives.


So Goldsmith lost his seat? That's nice, never been a fan of his

Goldsmith is out.
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Postby Purgatio » Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:17 pm

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
Purgatio wrote:
So Goldsmith lost his seat? That's nice, never been a fan of his

Really? How come?


Well idk much about him personally, but I had a law classmate I still keep in touch with from Oxford and he lives in Richmond Park, and he said he's not a fan of Goldsmith. Apparently he ran some racist campaign against Sadiq Khan a while back?
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Postby Thanatttynia » Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:18 pm

The Nihilistic view wrote:Who's enjoying themselves this evening? Or have I just entered the pit of despair?

Not me. Small consolations... Zac Goldsmith losing his seat is enjoyable
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Postby Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana » Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:18 pm

The Nihilistic view wrote:Who's enjoying themselves this evening? Or have I just entered the pit of despair?

I don’t enjoy any democratic elections because either way you get corrupt corporatist shills, but gotta say, impressed by Johnson’s performance
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Postby Bombadil » Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:18 pm

It's truly amazing the historical repeat of growing inequality resulting in harder right governments and populism.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:18 pm

The Nihilistic view wrote:Who's enjoying themselves this evening? Or have I just entered the pit of despair?

I'm enjoying watching the baby seal clubbing.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:18 pm

The Nihilistic view wrote:Who's enjoying themselves this evening? Or have I just entered the pit of despair?

I am over the moon regarding Northern Ireland, so so happy so far and I will make a big post about it in the morning


As for GB? Absolute depression
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Postby Greater Loegria » Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:18 pm

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Greater Loegria wrote:Britain being in the albeit afterglow of Christendom but nonetheless part of that tradition that’s a particularly silly thing to say.

I mean rejecting progressive notions that negate the family. There’s no point in turning round and trying to appeal gay marriage yet but you can work with what we have and provide greater care for single parents, pro natal policies and removing the whole LGBTQ stuff from schools until Highschool.


Removing LGBT stuff from schools until high school? Like, you mean, sex ed? Is teaching kids that they should use condoms when they have sex, gay or straight, suddenly a bad thing now? Or are you talking about bringing back Section 28 to the UK? Even though it blocked anti-bullying campaigns in public schools?

No this is about drag queens doing ‘story hour’ in primary schools. People can learn about gay sex in highschool -fine. But before then sexuality should be completely removed from lower education. It’s just not appropriate. The same goes for pride parades. People walking about with rainbow glitter on their cheeks? Eh, bigger fish to be frying. People cutting about in bdsm gear in a large city when children are out and about, not to mention overt phallic props and symbols. Just no. No.

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