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UK Politics Thread XI: Boris' Big Bombastic Brexit Bash

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Who do you support to become the next Labour Party Leader?

Clive Lewis (DROPPED OUT)
2
2%
Keir Starmer (Shadow Brexit Secretary, MP for Holborn and St Pancras)
48
41%
Lisa Nandy (MP for Wigan)
11
9%
Jess Phillips (DROPPED OUT)
17
15%
Emily Thornberry (Shadow First Secretary of State, MP for Islington South and Finsbury)
7
6%
Yvette Cooper (DROPPED OUT)
1
1%
Dan Jarvis (DROPPED OUT)
1
1%
Ian Lavery (DROPPED OUT)
1
1%
Rebecca Long Bailey (Shadow Business Secretary, MP for Salford and Eccles)
17
15%
Other (Please state who in a reply)
11
9%
 
Total votes : 116

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Postby Ifreann » Wed Dec 11, 2019 5:45 am

Philjia wrote:Johnson hides in fridge live on Good Morning Britain
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/vi ... view-video

Stay cool, Boris.
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Wed Dec 11, 2019 5:49 am

Philjia wrote:Johnson hides in fridge live on Good Morning Britain
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/vi ... view-video


Boris is such a froid.
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Postby Novus America » Wed Dec 11, 2019 6:01 am

An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:Trump has started messing with the WTO in an effort to stack it even more in the USA's favour.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-50736344


The WTO was a mistake anyways. It needs to go.
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Postby Gormwood » Wed Dec 11, 2019 6:27 am

Novus America wrote:
An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:Trump has started messing with the WTO in an effort to stack it even more in the USA's favour.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-50736344


The WTO was a mistake anyways. It needs to go.

Trade wars for all!
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Postby The New California Republic » Wed Dec 11, 2019 6:29 am

Ifreann wrote:
Philjia wrote:Johnson hides in fridge live on Good Morning Britain
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/vi ... view-video

Stay cool, Boris.

At least he didn't try to steal the fridge.
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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Wed Dec 11, 2019 6:32 am

Novus America wrote:
An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:Trump has started messing with the WTO in an effort to stack it even more in the USA's favour.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-50736344


The WTO was a mistake anyways. It needs to go.


Rather important for the UK though, if we do the idiot thing of leaving the EU without a deal.
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Postby Greed and Death » Wed Dec 11, 2019 6:33 am

Gormwood wrote:
Novus America wrote:
The WTO was a mistake anyways. It needs to go.

Trade wars for all!

Trade wars followed by real wars. I prefer to call it take these Americans goods or take these american nukes policy.
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Wed Dec 11, 2019 6:41 am

Greed and Death wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Trade wars for all!

Trade wars followed by real wars. I prefer to call it take these Americans goods or take these american nukes policy.

This would make me smile. Let's do it.
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Dec 11, 2019 6:44 am

The New California Republic wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Stay cool, Boris.

At least he didn't try to steal the fridge.

We don't know what he was doing in there, maybe he filled his pockets with fish fingers.
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Postby Novus America » Wed Dec 11, 2019 6:46 am

An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:
Novus America wrote:
The WTO was a mistake anyways. It needs to go.


Rather important for the UK though, if we do the idiot thing of leaving the EU without a deal.


Unless you have other trade agreements lined up true.
Because then you have no alternative.

But bi-lateral trade agreements tailored to the specifics between the two countries in question are much superior to the WTO’s idiotic and idealogical one size fits all approach.

For example under WTO rules, absent a separate bilateral trade agreement you must treat trade with Australia and the PRC the same way. Despite both countries having a completely different political system, completely different national security concerns, completely different internal economic laws, and a completely different trade profile.

Besides the WTO is too big and unwieldy. Getting enough countries to agree to update it to meet changing economic conditions is extremely difficult.

It moves at the pace of a snail frozen in a glacier. It never has and never will be able to keep up in the digital economy and a changing world.

Bi lateral agreements on the other hand allow you to apply different rules to different countries to account for the fact that different countries are well different.

Plus you can much more easily update and change them because it only requires agreement between two parties, not a hundred.
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Novus America represents my vision of an awesome Atompunk near future United States of America expanded to the entire North American continent, Guyana and the Philippines. The population would be around 700 million.
Think something like prewar Fallout, minus the bad stuff.

Politically I am an independent. I support what is good for the country, which means I cannot support either party.

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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Wed Dec 11, 2019 6:46 am

Ifreann wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:At least he didn't try to steal the fridge.

We don't know what he was doing in there, maybe he filled his pockets with fish fingers.

Wasn't it the fridge at a dairy? Perhaps he had a desire for cheese.
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Dec 11, 2019 6:55 am

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
Ifreann wrote:We don't know what he was doing in there, maybe he filled his pockets with fish fingers.

Wasn't it the fridge at a dairy? Perhaps he had a desire for cheese.

Big milky Boris.
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Wed Dec 11, 2019 6:57 am

Greed and Death wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Trade wars for all!

Trade wars followed by real wars. I prefer to call it take these Americans goods or take these american nukes policy.


*sniff* America grows up so quickly these days. Learning from its mommy :)
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Postby The Archregimancy » Wed Dec 11, 2019 7:19 am

Philjia wrote:Johnson hides in fridge live on Good Morning Britain
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/vi ... view-video


Perhaps he feared a nuclear attack?

Any archaeologist can tell you that hiding in a fridge is the best way to survive a nuclear test, so I assume it also works for a nuclear attack.

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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Wed Dec 11, 2019 7:22 am

The Archregimancy wrote:
Philjia wrote:Johnson hides in fridge live on Good Morning Britain
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/vi ... view-video


Perhaps he feared a nuclear attack?

Any archaeologist can tell you that hiding in a fridge is the best way to survive a nuclear test, so I assume it also works for a nuclear attack.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CTya20-C4A
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Wed Dec 11, 2019 7:25 am

The Archregimancy wrote:
Philjia wrote:Johnson hides in fridge live on Good Morning Britain
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/vi ... view-video


Perhaps he feared a nuclear attack?

Any archaeologist can tell you that hiding in a fridge is the best way to survive a nuclear test, so I assume it also works for a nuclear attack.



Archaeologists in fridges, the human cockroaches of the post apocalyptic world :)
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Postby The New California Republic » Wed Dec 11, 2019 7:29 am

The Archregimancy wrote:
Philjia wrote:Johnson hides in fridge live on Good Morning Britain
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/vi ... view-video


Perhaps he feared a nuclear attack?

Any archaeologist can tell you that hiding in a fridge is the best way to survive a nuclear test, so I assume it also works for a nuclear attack.

Wasn't there a PSA or two in the 1980s that warned kids not to play hide and seek in old fridges, lest they become trapped and suffocate? You politicians and archaeologists are a bad influence on the children.
Last edited by Sigmund Freud on Sat Sep 23, 1939 2:23 am, edited 999 times in total.

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They're hoping soon, my kind will drop and die
But I'm going to wave my freak flag high
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Wed Dec 11, 2019 7:30 am

The New California Republic wrote:
The Archregimancy wrote:
Perhaps he feared a nuclear attack?

Any archaeologist can tell you that hiding in a fridge is the best way to survive a nuclear test, so I assume it also works for a nuclear attack.

Wasn't there a PSA or two in the 1980s that warned kids not to play hide and seek in old fridges, lest they become trapped and suffocate? You politicians and archaeologists are a bad influence on the children.

Unless...

Unless that was their plan all along?
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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Wed Dec 11, 2019 7:31 am

The New California Republic wrote:
The Archregimancy wrote:
Perhaps he feared a nuclear attack?

Any archaeologist can tell you that hiding in a fridge is the best way to survive a nuclear test, so I assume it also works for a nuclear attack.

Wasn't there a PSA or two in the 1980s that warned kids not to play hide and seek in old fridges, lest they become trapped and suffocate? You politicians and archaeologists are a bad influence on the children.


See my post.
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Postby The New California Republic » Wed Dec 11, 2019 7:40 am

An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Wasn't there a PSA or two in the 1980s that warned kids not to play hide and seek in old fridges, lest they become trapped and suffocate? You politicians and archaeologists are a bad influence on the children.


See my post.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQEY8LWi71Y
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The Irradiated Wasteland of The New California Republic: depicting the expanded NCR, several years after the total victory over Caesar's Legion, and the annexation of New Vegas and its surrounding areas.

White-collared conservatives flashing down the street
Pointing their plastic finger at me
They're hoping soon, my kind will drop and die
But I'm going to wave my freak flag high
Wave on, wave on
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Dec 11, 2019 7:46 am

https://twitter.com/Carolin31152898/sta ... 34304?s=19

Laura Kuennsberg reporting the results of the postal vote, something I understand to be illegal.
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Postby The New California Republic » Wed Dec 11, 2019 7:48 am

Ifreann wrote:https://twitter.com/Carolin31152898/status/1204748359963234304?s=19

Laura Kuennsberg reporting the results of the postal vote, something I understand to be illegal.

I have never liked Kuenssberg, I like her even less now; as she should surely know better but just doesn't give a shit.
Last edited by Sigmund Freud on Sat Sep 23, 1939 2:23 am, edited 999 times in total.

The Irradiated Wasteland of The New California Republic: depicting the expanded NCR, several years after the total victory over Caesar's Legion, and the annexation of New Vegas and its surrounding areas.

White-collared conservatives flashing down the street
Pointing their plastic finger at me
They're hoping soon, my kind will drop and die
But I'm going to wave my freak flag high
Wave on, wave on
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Postby Gormwood » Wed Dec 11, 2019 8:04 am

The Archregimancy wrote:
Philjia wrote:Johnson hides in fridge live on Good Morning Britain
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/vi ... view-video


Perhaps he feared a nuclear attack?

Any archaeologist can tell you that hiding in a fridge is the best way to survive a nuclear test, so I assume it also works for a nuclear attack.

But then the worst part comes, trying to find volunteers to wash and scrub Boris Johnson down.
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Postby The New California Republic » Wed Dec 11, 2019 8:11 am

Gormwood wrote:
The Archregimancy wrote:
Perhaps he feared a nuclear attack?

Any archaeologist can tell you that hiding in a fridge is the best way to survive a nuclear test, so I assume it also works for a nuclear attack.

But then the worst part comes, trying to find volunteers to wash and scrub Boris Johnson down.

The Soviets had a decontamination system called TMS-65, which was a modified turbojet that fires water and decontamination fluid at high pressure to decontaminate tanks and other vehicles, so no need for physical contact. Just use that. I'm sure the Russians would generously offer to use one on the PM.
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Last edited by Sigmund Freud on Sat Sep 23, 1939 2:23 am, edited 999 times in total.

The Irradiated Wasteland of The New California Republic: depicting the expanded NCR, several years after the total victory over Caesar's Legion, and the annexation of New Vegas and its surrounding areas.

White-collared conservatives flashing down the street
Pointing their plastic finger at me
They're hoping soon, my kind will drop and die
But I'm going to wave my freak flag high
Wave on, wave on
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Dec 11, 2019 8:12 am

The New California Republic wrote:
Gormwood wrote:But then the worst part comes, trying to find volunteers to wash and scrub Boris Johnson down.

The Soviets had a decontamination system called TMS-65, which was a modified turbojet that fires water and decontamination fluid at high pressure to decontaminate tanks and other vehicles, so no need for physical contact. Just use that. I'm sure the Russians would generously offer to use one on the PM.
Image

No need, Boris has his own water cannons.
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