UK Politics Thread XI: Boris' Big Bombastic Brexit Bash

[Crysuko]

Nigel Farage, meanwhile, declares Murrayfield Stadium should be torn down, saying: "They lost. They should get over it and never try again."

In Number 10 Boris Johnson says England are definitely going to win.

Corbyn makes a snide remark about them not winning

[Greater vakolicci haven]

In Number 10 Boris Johnson says England are definitely going to win.

Corbyn makes a snide remark about them not winning

The snp, on the other hand, declares that George Ford is being held back by the undemocratic tactic-decision making process of the England coaching and staff, and urges him to create his own split-off from the RFU.

[Alyakia]

Libdems announce plan to replay the rugby until it ends in the right result.

fuck that shit. they won, you lost. rugby is cancelled forever.

[Bear Stearns]

What is the UK's equivalent of spring break and where does everyone go?

[Vassenor]

What is the UK's equivalent of spring break and where does everyone go?

The realisation that countries that are not America do not need to work exactly like America.

[Crysuko]

What is the UK's equivalent of spring break and where does everyone go?

No such thing here. The differences in culture and economic systems don't really allow for it.

[Bear Stearns]

What is the UK's equivalent of spring break and where does everyone go?

The realisation that countries that are not America do not need to work exactly like America.

That's just lame.

[Bear Stearns]

What is the UK's equivalent of spring break and where does everyone go?

No such thing here. The differences in culture and economic systems don't really allow for it.

Well there must be some warm, seaside getaway that people go to escape the cold. Best I can come up with would be Ibiza, Spain, or Greece.

[Vassenor]

The realisation that countries that are not America do not need to work exactly like America.

That's just lame.

Welcome to reality.

[The Free Neanderthal Tribes]

No such thing here. The differences in culture and economic systems don't really allow for it.

Well there must be some warm, seaside getaway that people go to escape the cold. Best I can come up with would be Ibiza, Spain, or Greece.

Yeah, Ibiza, Aiya Napa, etc. Are places where young people go to get ludicrously smashed and contract STDs.

But there's no real convention for specifically university kids to do that at a specific time of year, it's just a thing for 18-25 year olds to do.

[Crysuko]

No such thing here. The differences in culture and economic systems don't really allow for it.

Well there must be some warm, seaside getaway that people go to escape the cold. Best I can come up with would be Ibiza, Spain, or Greece.

That's ostensibly a university age sort of deal, but to compare it to spring break would be a false equivalence

[Greater vakolicci haven]

Well there must be some warm, seaside getaway that people go to escape the cold. Best I can come up with would be Ibiza, Spain, or Greece.

That's ostensibly a university age sort of deal, but to compare it to spring break would be a false equivalence

Most university students I know (including me) like to book their piss up and get STD holidays in early September. The reasons: it costs less as it's outside of the summer holidays (most students are poor as fuck), fewer screaming kids as it's outside summer holidays, still pretty hot, and since some of the bars haven't realised this trend they're dialing down a bit so drinks offers get stupid in order to lure more people in.

Europe is a faff for sun holidays outside of the summer months. My family has a tradition of going away in Europe in april, but if you want it hot you're pretty limited in Europe to the canaries and Turkey, Greece if they're having a decent year.

[Crysuko]

That's ostensibly a university age sort of deal, but to compare it to spring break would be a false equivalence

Most university students I know (including me) like to book their piss up and get STD holidays in early September. The reasons: it costs less as it's outside of the summer holidays (most students are poor as fuck), fewer screaming kids as it's outside summer holidays, still pretty hot, and since some of the bars haven't realised this trend they're dialing down a bit so drinks offers get stupid in order to lure more people in.

Europe is a faff for sun holidays outside of the summer months. My family has a tradition of going away in Europe in april, but if you want it hot you're pretty limited in Europe to the canaries and Turkey, Greece if they're having a decent year.

I've wanted to visit Valencia, personally. They have the most thicc churros you've ever seen.

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

Conservatives have an 8 point lead over Labour, according to a poll for the Telgraph.

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-brita ... XC0GX?il=0

Seems like only yesterday they had double that.

[The Archregimancy]

It looks very likely that the LibDems, Greens, and Plaid Cymru will announce a deal this week not to stand against each other in at least some seats.

I can't link to this because it's come to me directly through personal channels, but I've been told to 'expect an announcement in the next few days'.

I also have no idea how this will work; but there is of course precedent. The LibDems already give Caroline Lucas a free run in Brighton, and both PC and the Greens gave the LibDems a free run in the Brecon by-election.

It will be interesting to see what happens in Ceredigion, a rare LibDem - Plaid Cymru marginal where PC's Ben Lake defeated the LibDems' Mark Williams by only 104 votes in 2017, where both Lake and Williams are planning to run against each other again, and where you have to go back to 1970 to find a winning candidate who wasn't from either PC or the Liberals/LibDems. Indeed, the two Labour victories in '66 and '70 were the only times since the Liberal Party took the seat in the 1880 general election that the seat was won by either Labour or Conservatives. Given that there's no risk of either Labour or the Tories winning the seat, I imagine that one will still be contested.

[Alyakia]

Conservatives have an 8 point lead over Labour, according to a poll for the Telgraph.

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-brita ... XC0GX?il=0

Seems like only yesterday they had double that.

i am skeptical that boris will repeat may's failure but hoo boy am i secretly hyped for the idea that he will

[Minoa]

I think the Fixed Term parliaments law is a total failure: it assumed that every term will last five years.

So far, I have only seen one term make it to the end, and that was during the Conservative and Liberal Democrat coalition (2010 to 2015).

[Ostroeuropa]

Conservatives have an 8 point lead over Labour, according to a poll for the Telgraph.

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-brita ... XC0GX?il=0

Seems like only yesterday they had double that.

i am skeptical that boris will repeat may's failure but hoo boy am i secretly hyped for the idea that he will

McDonnell was straight up asked which Tory he likes and he was all;

They voted for austerity and i'm never going to forgive them.

"Not a single Tory?"

"no. None of them. People died."

That was prior to talking about how they're just done with trying to compromise with the right. Hoo boy it'll be a fun time.

"Nationalization without compensation though?"

"Obviously we're interested in safeguarding pension funds and equivalents."

"But for individual investors?"

"Depends on what industry we're talking about.".

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

It looks very likely that the LibDems, Greens, and Plaid Cymru will announce a deal this week not to stand against each other in at least some seats.

I can't link to this because it's come to me directly through personal channels, but I've been told to 'expect an announcement in the next few days'.

I also have no idea how this will work; but there is of course precedent. The LibDems already give Caroline Lucas a free run in Brighton, and both PC and the Greens gave the LibDems a free run in the Brecon by-election.

It will be interesting to see what happens in Ceredigion, a rare LibDem - Plaid Cymru marginal where PC's Ben Lake defeated the LibDems' Mark Williams by only 104 votes in 2017, where both Lake and Williams are planning to run against each other again, and where you have to go back to 1970 to find a winning candidate who wasn't from either PC or the Liberals/LibDems. Indeed, the two Labour victories in '66 and '70 were the only times since the Liberal Party took the seat in the 1880 general election that the seat was won by either Labour or Conservatives. Given that there's no risk of either Labour or the Tories winning the seat, I imagine that one will still be contested.

It's a canary in the coal mine, really, when your best election strategy can possibly be not participating.

[Neu Leonstein]

I'm quietly relieved at the rugby result.

I had concerns about the impact of a victory parade in London in the middle of an election campaign; both on the broader result and on the result in Scotland.

I personally still reckon that if the referendum hadn't coincided with the European football championship, it might not have passed. Only so much "our boys vs those foreigners" and English flags plastered over everything you can see before it starts to affect people.

[Souseiseki]

post oct 31 polls not showing as big a drop in support for the tories as i had expected/hoped oof

[Fartsniffage]

post oct 31 polls not showing as big a drop in support for the tories as i had expected/hoped oof

Boris is a big draw. We're now in US style identity politics.

[Neu Leonstein]

Boris is a big draw. We're now in US style identity politics.

You've been there for a while. Remember that before the referendum, EU membership never made it very high on the list of things people polled as caring very much about. Now it's an issue people use to define themselves.

It way to explain that is identity politics: people pick a team and our little monkey brains tell us to support that team come what may.

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

post oct 31 polls not showing as big a drop in support for the tories as i had expected/hoped oof

Which ones have you seen?

I've only seen this Sunday Telegraph one
https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-brita ... KKBN1XC0GX

and a drop from a 16 point lead to an 8 point one already, put a smile on my face.

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

Farage isn't even going to stand. I guess the embarrassment of failing to win again would look too bad.

What is a fair measure of achievement for the Brexit Party to count as a success in the election?