UK Politics Thread XI: Boris' Big Bombastic Brexit Bash

[The Blaatschapen]

Everyone's busy stockpiling canned goods and digging out subterranean bunkers, or that is what I choose to believe.

Happiness is a freshly dug bunker.

Bang bang shoot shoot.

[Chan Island]

The majority of British people say that violence against MPs to achieve their desired Brexit outcome is a price worth paying. This includes a majority of both Remainers and Leavers, albeit a higher % for leavers (50s vs 70s)

Yikes. That doesn't bode well.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

Where has everyone gone?

It's been rained off.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

I am unsure where this editorial from Dagens Nyheter (in Swedish) has gotten its info from but apparently... BoJo has threatened to refuse to govern, refuse to create budgets and just use the time in parliament to bitch and whine about this prospective election of his.
My thoughts?: *THONKING*

[Gormwood]

I am unsure where this editorial from Dagens Nyheter (in Swedish) has gotten its info from but apparently... BoJo has threatened to refuse to govern, refuse to create budgets and just use the time in parliament to bitch and whine about this prospective election of his.
My thoughts?: *THONKING*

So he's trying to pull a Trump and throw an adult baby tantrum. Perhaps someone should send boxes of diapers to 10 Downing Street?

[Hydesland]

The majority of British people say that violence against MPs to achieve their desired Brexit outcome is a price worth paying. This includes a majority of both Remainers and Leavers, albeit a higher % for leavers (50s vs 70s)

Worth pointing out that that headline is bollocks https://twitter.com/Fellwolf/status/118 ... 69090?s=20

[Annihilators of Chan Island]

The majority of British people say that violence against MPs to achieve their desired Brexit outcome is a price worth paying. This includes a majority of both Remainers and Leavers, albeit a higher % for leavers (50s vs 70s)

Worth pointing out that that headline is bollocks https://twitter.com/Fellwolf/status/118 ... 69090?s=20

The hero we need. Thanks for that.

[Vassenor]

Worth pointing out that that headline is bollocks https://twitter.com/Fellwolf/status/118 ... 69090?s=20

The hero we need. Thanks for that.

The majority of British people say that violence against MPs to achieve their desired Brexit outcome is a price worth paying. This includes a majority of both Remainers and Leavers, albeit a higher % for leavers (50s vs 70s)

Note that only about 7% actually want violence against MPs to happen (well 8 and 9% of leavers do, 2 and 2% of Remainers do), I think this is more about how we’ve normalised violence against MPs and how for a large segments of the population MPs are geared as sub-human.

[Ostroeuropa]

The majority of British people say that violence against MPs to achieve their desired Brexit outcome is a price worth paying. This includes a majority of both Remainers and Leavers, albeit a higher % for leavers (50s vs 70s)

The collapse of the neoliberal consensus continues.

[Vassenor]

The majority of British people say that violence against MPs to achieve their desired Brexit outcome is a price worth paying. This includes a majority of both Remainers and Leavers, albeit a higher % for leavers (50s vs 70s)

The collapse of the neoliberal consensus continues.

What the fuck does Neoliberalism have to do with this aside from you wanting to gripe about your preferred bugbears?

Because I'm pretty sure "it's not OK to use, risk or threaten violence against the government" is not really a neoliberal exclusive position.

[Celritannia]

The collapse of the neoliberal consensus continues.

What the fuck does Neoliberalism have to do with this aside from you wanting to gripe about your preferred bugbears?

Because I'm pretty sure "it's not OK to use, risk or threaten violence against the government" is not really a neoliberal exclusive position.

^^^This^^^

[Ostroeuropa]

The collapse of the neoliberal consensus continues.

What the fuck does Neoliberalism have to do with this aside from you wanting to gripe about your preferred bugbears?

Because I'm pretty sure "it's not OK to use, risk or threaten violence against the government" is not really a neoliberal exclusive position.

The neoliberal consensus is the current political order, and the widespread acceptance of violence to dislodge it represents an indication their crisis of legitimacy is reaching a peak. The widespread acceptance of violence by two sides of a political question is like, anti-consensus. That's the least consensus thing ever.

https://americanaffairsjournal.org/2017 ... mp-beyond/

[Celritannia]

What the fuck does Neoliberalism have to do with this aside from you wanting to gripe about your preferred bugbears?

Because I'm pretty sure "it's not OK to use, risk or threaten violence against the government" is not really a neoliberal exclusive position.

The neoliberal consensus is the current political order, and the widespread acceptance of violence to dislodge it represents an indication their crisis of legitimacy is reaching a peak. The widespread acceptance of violence by two sides of a political question is like, anti-consensus. That's the least consensus thing ever.

https://americanaffairsjournal.org/2017 ... mp-beyond/

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But there is not widespread acceptance of violence. It's just extremely heightened by the media.

[Annihilators of Chan Island]

What the fuck does Neoliberalism have to do with this aside from you wanting to gripe about your preferred bugbears?

Because I'm pretty sure "it's not OK to use, risk or threaten violence against the government" is not really a neoliberal exclusive position.

The neoliberal consensus is the current political order, and the widespread acceptance of violence to dislodge it represents an indication their crisis of legitimacy is reaching a peak. The widespread acceptance of violence by two sides of a political question is like, anti-consensus. That's the least consensus thing ever.

https://americanaffairsjournal.org/2017 ... mp-beyond/

Except as was pointed out by others in this thread, the numbers are not actually as high as that misleading headline suggested. Not only was the original question about risk of violence, not about actually committing it, but there is also data suggesting that people believe it's both a low risk, and that it is not preferable.

In truth, it seems only about 7% of leavers and 2% of remainers want violence. Only about 50% on both sides think violence of any kind is likely.

Thanks once again to Hydesland for posting the correction. And boo for having been exposed to a Daily Mail headline.

[Ostroeuropa]

The neoliberal consensus is the current political order, and the widespread acceptance of violence to dislodge it represents an indication their crisis of legitimacy is reaching a peak. The widespread acceptance of violence by two sides of a political question is like, anti-consensus. That's the least consensus thing ever.

https://americanaffairsjournal.org/2017 ... mp-beyond/

Except as was pointed out by others in this thread, the numbers are not actually as high as that misleading headline suggested. Not only was the original question about risk of violence, not about actually committing it, but there is also data suggesting that people believe it's both a low risk, and that it is not preferable.

In truth, it seems only about 7% of leavers and 2% of remainers want violence. Only about 50% on both sides think violence of any kind is likely.

Thanks once again to Hydesland for posting the correction. And boo for having been exposed to a Daily Mail headline.

Okey doke. That's fair.

[Annihilators of Chan Island]

Except as was pointed out by others in this thread, the numbers are not actually as high as that misleading headline suggested. Not only was the original question about risk of violence, not about actually committing it, but there is also data suggesting that people believe it's both a low risk, and that it is not preferable.

In truth, it seems only about 7% of leavers and 2% of remainers want violence. Only about 50% on both sides think violence of any kind is likely.

Thanks once again to Hydesland for posting the correction. And boo for having been exposed to a Daily Mail headline.

Okey doke. That's fair.

Yeah, I fell for it too. -1000 points to the press for trying to gaslight everyone once again.

[Fartsniffage]

Eddie Jones for Prime Minister.

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

Leaked government papers suggest that worker's rights and environmental protections open to being diluted after Brexit.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-50194676

[Gormwood]

The UK has messed up Brexit. Now Boris Johnson is trapped in hell

[Souseiseki]

Leaked government papers suggest that worker's rights and environmental protections open to being diluted after Brexit.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-50194676

but the brexiters kept telling me that we actually have better protections than the whole EU. how could this be?

[Ifreann]

Leaked government papers suggest that worker's rights and environmental protections open to being diluted after Brexit.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-50194676

but the brexiters kept telling me that we actually have better protections than the whole EU. how could this be?

Remainer sabotage, no doubt. The hated Corbz is destroying worker's rights, somehow.

[Ostroeuropa]

but the brexiters kept telling me that we actually have better protections than the whole EU. how could this be?

Remainer sabotage, no doubt. The hated Corbz is destroying worker's rights, somehow.

The Evil Jeremy Corbyn votes down Big Boris Johnsons generous, wise, and timely proposal to decrease increase the gin ration. Remember, the enemy is everywhere, and they are insidious. They will have left documents showing the gin ration used to be larger than it is now. Report these weapons of war to the ministry of truth. Signed- little girl

[The Huskar Social Union]

I am unsure where this editorial from Dagens Nyheter (in Swedish) has gotten its info from but apparently... BoJo has threatened to refuse to govern, refuse to create budgets and just use the time in parliament to bitch and whine about this prospective election of his.
My thoughts?: *THONKING*

Ah i did an interview for those guys back in uni about brexit

Also

THONK

[The Huskar Social Union]

Leaked government papers suggest that worker's rights and environmental protections open to being diluted after Brexit.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-50194676

Shocking absolutely no one.

[The New California Republic]

Leaked government papers suggest that worker's rights and environmental protections open to being diluted after Brexit.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-50194676

Yeah we were warned about this before the Referendum, and it was dismissed as scaremongering by the Leave crowd. The same folk that made out that it'd be painless and easy to get a deal etc.