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UK Politics Thread XI: Boris' Big Bombastic Brexit Bash

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Who do you support to become the next Labour Party Leader?

Clive Lewis (DROPPED OUT)
2
2%
Keir Starmer (Shadow Brexit Secretary, MP for Holborn and St Pancras)
48
41%
Lisa Nandy (MP for Wigan)
11
9%
Jess Phillips (DROPPED OUT)
17
15%
Emily Thornberry (Shadow First Secretary of State, MP for Islington South and Finsbury)
7
6%
Yvette Cooper (DROPPED OUT)
1
1%
Dan Jarvis (DROPPED OUT)
1
1%
Ian Lavery (DROPPED OUT)
1
1%
Rebecca Long Bailey (Shadow Business Secretary, MP for Salford and Eccles)
17
15%
Other (Please state who in a reply)
11
9%
 
Total votes : 116

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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Oct 22, 2019 11:51 am

Philjia wrote:Boris is likely to push for an election now, not sure if Corbyn will go for it though.

Then what happens if an election doesn’t happen? Because if an extension is granted it will just lead to more of the same
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Oct 22, 2019 11:51 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Philjia wrote:Boris is likely to push for an election now, not sure if Corbyn will go for it though.

Then what happens if an election doesn’t happen? Because if an extension is granted it will just lead to more of the same


Then parliament will actually debate and scrutinise this bill properly.
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Postby Nazis in Space » Tue Oct 22, 2019 11:53 am

Vassenor wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Then what happens if an election doesn’t happen? Because if an extension is granted it will just lead to more of the same


Then parliament will actually debate and scrutinise this bill properly.

Now that's what I call deadpan British humour.

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Postby Vassenor » Tue Oct 22, 2019 11:55 am

Nazis in Space wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Then parliament will actually debate and scrutinise this bill properly.

Now that's what I call deadpan British humour.


I'm serious.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Tue Oct 22, 2019 11:56 am

I have no words, im just... floored lol what a fucking mess
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Oct 22, 2019 11:58 am

The leader of the Commons, Jacob Rees-Mogg, is on his feet setting out how the government intends to proceed. He tells MPs there will be a debate on the Queen’s Speech on Wednesday and Thursday and that the Commons will not sit on Friday.

The shadow leader, Valerie Vaz, reiterates Labour’s offer to work to find a consensus on the Brexit bill’s timetabling.


Sounds like they're trying to bounce this after all.
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Oct 22, 2019 11:59 am

Vassenor wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Then what happens if an election doesn’t happen? Because if an extension is granted it will just lead to more of the same


Then parliament will actually debate and scrutinise this bill properly.

Good joke
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Postby Philjia » Tue Oct 22, 2019 12:00 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Philjia wrote:Boris is likely to push for an election now, not sure if Corbyn will go for it though.

Then what happens if an election doesn’t happen?

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Postby Vassenor » Tue Oct 22, 2019 12:01 pm

No wait I think Boris has decided this means No Deal.
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Oct 22, 2019 12:05 pm

Vassenor wrote:No wait I think Boris has decided this means No Deal.

Now we watch as the EU grants yet another extension for nothing
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Postby Heloin » Tue Oct 22, 2019 12:10 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Vassenor wrote:No wait I think Boris has decided this means No Deal.

Now we watch as the EU grants yet another extension for nothing

So the newest tradition may stand firm for just a bit longer.

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Postby The Blaatschapen » Tue Oct 22, 2019 1:31 pm



Brexit IV: A New Hope!
The Blaatschapen should resign

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Postby Gormwood » Tue Oct 22, 2019 1:35 pm


Imagine BoJo taking a loan from a shark.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Tue Oct 22, 2019 1:37 pm



I love all the comments from remainers wanting an extension with a legally binding referendum as a condition. Oh dear....

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Postby Fartsniffage » Tue Oct 22, 2019 1:37 pm

The Blaatschapen wrote:


Brexit IV: A New Hope!


At this point it's more Spaceballs...

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Postby The New California Republic » Tue Oct 22, 2019 1:39 pm

Gormwood wrote:

Imagine BoJo taking a loan from a shark.

We also have to continue imagining Boris dead in a ditch, since that has not transpired yet despite him indicating his clear preference for it.
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The Irradiated Wasteland of The New California Republic: depicting the expanded NCR, several years after the total victory over Caesar's Legion, and the annexation of New Vegas and its surrounding areas.

White-collared conservatives flashing down the street
Pointing their plastic finger at me
They're hoping soon, my kind will drop and die
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Wave on, wave on
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Postby The New California Republic » Tue Oct 22, 2019 1:40 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
The Blaatschapen wrote:
Brexit IV: A New Hope!


At this point it's more Spaceballs...

Keep kicking that Brexit ball further and further down the road.
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The Irradiated Wasteland of The New California Republic: depicting the expanded NCR, several years after the total victory over Caesar's Legion, and the annexation of New Vegas and its surrounding areas.

White-collared conservatives flashing down the street
Pointing their plastic finger at me
They're hoping soon, my kind will drop and die
But I'm going to wave my freak flag high
Wave on, wave on
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Postby Fartsniffage » Tue Oct 22, 2019 1:41 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
At this point it's more Spaceballs...

Keep kicking that Brexit ball further and further down the road.


Spaceballs 2 - The Search for More Money Pointless Parliamentary Vote Withdrawals.
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Oct 22, 2019 2:11 pm

There's some information coming out from people who have been reading the bill, including a clause that ensures No Deal will happen at the end of the transition period — if the House votes for Johnson's bill, they're practically signing away their right to intervene should transition end without deal and the government refuses to seek an extension. I think Caroline Lucas said this was Clause 30.

There are other big issues starting to come to light as well.
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Ostroeuropa wrote:FYI comic sans is the preferred text for dyslexic and the visually impaired as it makes it easier to read. The stigma against it needs to end. Some Children probably also choose it for this reason tbh.


Actually, no. Any baseline-heavy sans-serif font works just as well, and most of them work significantly better.
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Postby The New California Republic » Tue Oct 22, 2019 2:28 pm

A No 10 source has said there will have to be a general election if the EU offers a delay until the end of January - as the UK has requested.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-poli ... s-50136270
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White-collared conservatives flashing down the street
Pointing their plastic finger at me
They're hoping soon, my kind will drop and die
But I'm going to wave my freak flag high
Wave on, wave on
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Oct 22, 2019 2:30 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
A No 10 source has said there will have to be a general election if the EU offers a delay until the end of January - as the UK has requested.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-poli ... s-50136270


And what is their logic?

Aside from burning up the extension so MPs will be forced to accept the deal or no deal.
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