UK Politics Thread XI: Boris' Big Bombastic Brexit Bash

[Greater vakolicci haven]

Letwin amendment passes

The government loses.

322 to 306.

This withholds approval of the prime minister’s deal until the legislation to enact it – the EU withdrawal bill – is passed.

Has the list of who voted how come out?

[Thermodolia]

Boris is openly declaring his contempt for Parliament, stating he will not request Extension.

So what happens now?

[Vassenor]

Boris is openly declaring his contempt for Parliament, stating he will not request Extension.

So what happens now?

Hell if I know.

[Shamhnan Insir]

The rain was good.

What have I missed? Time to catch up.

[The Free Joy State]

No. 10 has ordered the Tory MPs to boycott the vote on the deal, and the Conservative benches have emptied.

The PM's taken his bat and ball home, it appears.

[Philjia]

has boris won literally a single vote in the commons at this point?

Yes, there was some environmental legislation on Tuesday: https://news.sky.com/video/levity-in-co ... y-11836403

[Greater vakolicci haven]

the speaker seems really confused rn at what JRM is doing.

[Philjia]

the speaker seems really confused rn at what JRM is doing.

Aren't we all, most of the time?

[Vassenor]

the speaker seems really confused rn at what JRM is doing.

I'm not sure JRM knows what he's doing any more.

[Shamhnan Insir]

the speaker seems really confused rn at what JRM is doing.

I'm not sure JRM knows what he's doing any more.

This one is a subtle job.
Bring back the exact same motion in the hopes they can squeeze it over the line. Except present it in a way to leave big feckin question marks over the thing at short notice.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

How did the two stoke labour mps vote?

[Vassenor]

Vote breakdown is out.

Six Labour MPs rebelled to back the government.

[Philjia]

Boris isn't just a lame duck, he's a fucking dead duck that's been roasted and served with crispy pancakes and hoisin sauce.

[Vassenor]

How did the two stoke labour mps vote?

Ruth Smeeth (L-Stoke-on-Trent North) and Gareth Snell (L-Stoke-on-Trent Central) both voted for the Amendment. Jack Brereton (C-Stoke-on-Trent South) voted against.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

How did the two stoke labour mps vote?

Ruth Smeeth (L-Stoke-on-Trent North) and Gareth Snell (L-Stoke-on-Trent Central) both voted for the Amendment. Jack Brereton (C-Stoke-on-Trent South) voted against.

Thanks.
That's quite strange as Snell has stated publicly, and smeeth has let it be known to her constituency party that on an actual vote on the deal they would be in favour.

[Vassenor]

Ruth Smeeth (L-Stoke-on-Trent North) and Gareth Snell (L-Stoke-on-Trent Central) both voted for the Amendment. Jack Brereton (C-Stoke-on-Trent South) voted against.

Thanks.
That's quite strange as Snell has stated publicly, and smeeth has let it be known to her constituency party that on an actual vote on the deal they would be in favour.

Keep in mind that the Letwin amendment is "we approve of the deal, but we need to make sure we have time to implement it properly".

So no, voting for Letwin is in fact not "voting against the deal" in and of itself.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

Thanks.
That's quite strange as Snell has stated publicly, and smeeth has let it be known to her constituency party that on an actual vote on the deal they would be in favour.

Keep in mind that the Letwin amendment is "we approve of the deal, but we need to make sure we have time to implement it properly".

So no, voting for Letwin is in fact not "voting against the deal" in and of itself.

The bbc seems to think it's a good way of getting wrecking amendments in.

[Philjia]

Notable independents voting with the government were Rory Stewart and Sir Nicholas Soames, notable ones against included Ken Clarke and Phillip Hammond.

Four Labour MPs, two Conservatives, and one independent abstained.

[The Two Jerseys]

Thanks.
That's quite strange as Snell has stated publicly, and smeeth has let it be known to her constituency party that on an actual vote on the deal they would be in favour.

Keep in mind that the Letwin amendment is "we approve of the deal, but we need to make sure we have time to implement it properly".

So no, voting for Letwin is in fact not "voting against the deal" in and of itself.

Then lock the members in the chamber for the next 12 days and make them pass the associated legislation.

[Shrillland]

Boris is openly declaring his contempt for Parliament, stating he will not request Extension.

So what happens now?

Apparently Rees-Mogg says there will be another meaningful vote on Monday.

[Vassenor]

So what happens now?

Apparently Rees-Mogg says there will be another meaningful vote on Monday.

The government wants to start in on the legislation next week in order to rush everything through before the 31st.

[Definitely Not Trumptonium]

I like how Hammond voted for May's deal three times, but votes against this one which is identical to May's deal except that it gives the UK power to withdraw from the customs union at will rather than being bound to it forever.

Almost as if Hammond was .. in it for his career? :thonk:

[Shamhnan Insir]

So we enter unknown on Monday, with several possible outcomes. Kind of like a pandoras box no matter which point of view you hold.

The wheels on this bus will DUP DUP DUP until then, as I don't see any signs of them deflating...

[Vassenor]

I like how Hammond voted for May's deal three times, but votes against this one which is identical to May's deal except that it gives the UK power to withdraw from the customs union at will rather than being bound to it forever.

Almost as if Hammond was .. in it for his career? :thonk:

How does "we approve the deal but need to make sure we have time to implement it properly" constitute "[voting] against the deal"?

[Souseiseki]

seems like the writers might be seriously considering putting the DUP on team remain for the season 3 finale. very ambitious.