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Postby Major-Tom » Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:09 pm

Pacomia wrote:
Sovaal wrote:I say we just sink Seattle into the ocean.

That would kill me. I wouldn’t like that.


Just move to like, IDK, Bellingham before it happens lmao.

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Postby The South Falls » Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:10 pm

Major-Tom wrote:
Pacomia wrote:That would kill me. I wouldn’t like that.


Just move to like, IDK, Bellingham before it happens lmao.

How dare you threaten Pacomia with the death that is moving to Bellingham!
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Postby Major-Tom » Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:11 pm

The South Falls wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:
Just move to like, IDK, Bellingham before it happens lmao.

How dare you threaten Pacomia with the death that is moving to Bellingham!


Hey, it's only savage if I threaten the idea of Tacoma! I'm too civilized for that.

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Postby Ifreann » Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:11 pm

Cetacea wrote:so Amazon buys Seattle and makes it a company town? oh well at least its some honest American politics

though out of interest, if individual people can only donate 500, what loophole did the Plutarchs put in place for Amazon to use?

Bought thousands of people?


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I doubt Jeff Bezos is healthy food.

Hmm, good point.
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Postby The South Falls » Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:12 pm

Major-Tom wrote:
The South Falls wrote:How dare you threaten Pacomia with the death that is moving to Bellingham!


Hey, it's only savage if I threaten the idea of Tacoma! I'm too civilized for that.

It would be better if you moved into a Toyota Tacoma.
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Postby Pacomia » Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:18 pm

Major-Tom wrote:
The South Falls wrote:How dare you threaten Pacomia with the death that is moving to Bellingham!


Hey, it's only savage if I threaten the idea of Tacoma! I'm too civilized for that.

Haha, degrading other Washington cities. A Seattleite’s favourite pastime.

I’m actually fine with Tacoma and Bellingham, I’ve actually thought about moving to Bellingham more than once. It’s Kent I don’t like.

Oh, and everything east of the Cascades. But that’s basically Idaho at that point, so...
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Postby Greed and Death » Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:26 pm

Cetacea wrote:so Amazon buys Seattle and makes it a company town? oh well at least its some honest American politics

though out of interest, if individual people can only donate 500, what loophole did the Plutarchs put in place for Amazon to use?


Ran the ads as a PAC rather than donating to an individual candidate.
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Postby Pacomia » Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:33 pm

Greed and Death wrote:
Cetacea wrote:so Amazon buys Seattle and makes it a company town? oh well at least its some honest American politics

though out of interest, if individual people can only donate 500, what loophole did the Plutarchs put in place for Amazon to use?


Ran the ads as a PAC rather than donating to an individual candidate.

Yeah. That’s a big loophole.
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Postby Greed and Death » Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:39 pm

Pacomia wrote:
Greed and Death wrote:
Ran the ads as a PAC rather than donating to an individual candidate.

Yeah. That’s a big loophole.

Its the 1st Amendment not a loop hole. Me and other 1%ers have the right to buy up all the ad time every election so we win.
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Postby US-SSR » Thu Oct 17, 2019 6:55 pm

Yet more proof if any were needed that the US is an oligarchy, not a democracy.
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Postby Kowani » Thu Oct 17, 2019 7:13 pm

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Postby Greed and Death » Thu Oct 17, 2019 7:14 pm

US-SSR wrote:Yet more proof if any were needed that the US is an oligarchy, not a democracy.

Its how free speech works a corner stone of democracy.
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Oct 17, 2019 7:16 pm

Greed and Death wrote:
Pacomia wrote:Yeah. That’s a big loophole.

Its the 1st Amendment not a loop hole. Me and other 1%ers have the right to buy up all the ad time every election so we win.

Sure just as long as your fine with paying a $2 tax on every $1 you spend
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Postby Greed and Death » Thu Oct 17, 2019 7:20 pm

Kowani wrote:I’m keeping this one in my “late-stage capitalism” collection.


Do you think it is easier or harder now to dominate a message now or back 100 years ago when towns had maybe 2 news papers for news ?
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Postby Greed and Death » Thu Oct 17, 2019 7:21 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Greed and Death wrote:Its the 1st Amendment not a loop hole. Me and other 1%ers have the right to buy up all the ad time every election so we win.

Sure just as long as your fine with paying a $2 tax on every $1 you spend

My Superpac luckily got that tax repealed. Now my Super PAC donations are tax deductible.
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Postby Pacomia » Thu Oct 17, 2019 7:50 pm

Anyway, we’ve established that this is a problem. Now what should be done about it?
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Oct 17, 2019 8:12 pm

Pacomia wrote:Anyway, we’ve established that this is a problem. Now what should be done about it?

Nationalize Amazon. Arrest the corporate leaders. Ban corporations from funding campaigns
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Postby Greed and Death » Thu Oct 17, 2019 8:33 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Pacomia wrote:Anyway, we’ve established that this is a problem. Now what should be done about it?

Nationalize Amazon. Arrest the corporate leaders. Ban corporations from funding campaigns


Unfortunately, Amazon's super PAC convinced congress and the President that you should be arrested instead. Your assets will be given to Bezos so he can burn them in front of you before you are sentenced to a lifetime of work selling Amazon Prime subscriptions. I am sorry but your last chance to prevent this was a decade ago.
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Postby Unstoppable Empire of Doom » Thu Oct 17, 2019 8:37 pm

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens_United_v._FEC

This isnt new. Hell if you think a million is a lot just look at how much they will spend fighting unions.
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Postby Greed and Death » Thu Oct 17, 2019 8:39 pm

Unstoppable Empire of Doom wrote:https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens_United_v._FEC

This isnt new. Hell if you think a million is a lot just look at how much they will spend fighting unions.

What do you think I was referencing a decade ago.
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Postby Pacomia » Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:36 pm

Unstoppable Empire of Doom wrote:https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens_United_v._FEC

This isnt new. Hell if you think a million is a lot just look at how much they will spend fighting unions.

Yeah, it’s nothing new, I know. I made this thread because my city is now at risk of becoming a company town and I’m pretty stressed out about it. Maybe it won’t make that much of a difference, but I already don’t trust Amazon and I don’t want them making my laws and controlling my city.
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Postby Evil Dictators Happyland » Fri Oct 18, 2019 5:11 am

Greed and Death wrote:
Kowani wrote:I’m keeping this one in my “late-stage capitalism” collection.


Do you think it is easier or harder now to dominate a message now or back 100 years ago when towns had maybe 2 news papers for news ?

Way easier. You can count the number of major news sources in the United States on one hand, two if you stretch the definition of "major".

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Postby Andsed » Fri Oct 18, 2019 5:54 am

Yeah this kind of shit is not something we should not want in a democracy. Companies only concerned with making money is not who we want influencing our government.
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Postby Evil Dictators Happyland » Fri Oct 18, 2019 5:59 am

Andsed wrote:Yeah this kind of shit is not something we should not want in a democracy. Companies only concerned with making money is not who we want influencing our government.

You sure you're talking about the United States here? We've been bending over backwards to turn into a plutocracy since the 1980s at least.

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Postby Ifreann » Fri Oct 18, 2019 5:59 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Pacomia wrote:Anyway, we’ve established that this is a problem. Now what should be done about it?

Nationalize Amazon. Arrest the corporate leaders. Ban corporations from funding campaigns

Yeah, Donald Trump in control of Amazon would be so much better than Jeff Bezos.
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