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PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:12 am
by San Lumen
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:How long until we add violating the Congress' constitutionally protected powers to declare war to the articles of impeachment?


It should be added. Republicans could care less though.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:13 am
by Austria-Bohemia-Hungary
San Lumen wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:How long until we add violating the Congress' constitutionally protected powers to declare war to the articles of impeachment?


It should be added. Republicans could care less though.

The Imperial Rule Assistance Association

PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:15 am
by The East Marches II
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:How long until we add violating the Congress' constitutionally protected powers to declare war to the articles of impeachment?


As soon as Pelosi revokes the huge authorizations she gave him. She can't call back her blank check now.

Hope she enjoys the bed she made :^)))

Gormwood wrote:
San Lumen wrote:https://www.businessinsider.com/boris-johnson-warns-trump-targeting-iran-culture-sites-break-law-2020-1

Now even Boris Johnson is telling Trump that targeting Iran Cultural sites would break international law. That says a lot about how stupid and wrong it would be.

But we were told that just makes Trump double down on the idea.


No you were told being hysterical and retarded, as our media is, makes him do that. It's feeding the troll. He likes their cries. It isn't difficult to differentiate between the two. I know you can do it if you try :^)

PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:16 am
by San Lumen
The East Marches II wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:How long until we add violating the Congress' constitutionally protected powers to declare war to the articles of impeachment?


As soon as Pelosi revokes the huge authorizations she gave him. She can't call back her blank check now.

Hope she enjoys the bed she made :^)))

Gormwood wrote:But we were told that just makes Trump double down on the idea.


No you were told being hysterical and retarded, as our media is, makes him do that. It's feeding the troll. He likes their cries. It isn't difficult to differentiate between the two. I know you can do it if you try :^)


I dont care. He needs to be called out. Attacking cultural sites is a war crime and a crime against humanity. History cannot be replaced.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:18 am
by Nakena
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
It should be added. Republicans could care less though.

The Imperial Rule Assistance Association


Yes. Thats what they are and ought to be.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:34 am
by Ifreann
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:How long until we add violating the Congress' constitutionally protected powers to declare war to the articles of impeachment?

Never? Imma predict never.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:36 am
by San Lumen
Ifreann wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:How long until we add violating the Congress' constitutionally protected powers to declare war to the articles of impeachment?

Never? Imma predict never.

There is nothing he can say or do that Republicans would call for him to resign. They care more about not having primary challenges.

A thirty year old with no political experience could primary a Republican senator and if they speak out against him he would endorse their opponent and the base would vote for them like sheep.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:44 am
by Fahran
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:How long until we add violating the Congress' constitutionally protected powers to declare war to the articles of impeachment?

He's not technically violating those since he isn't declaring war in a formal sense. We've never actually given any president too much grief for deciding to, say, topple the Libyan government or deciding to topple the Iraqi government.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:48 am
by Austria-Bohemia-Hungary
San Lumen wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Never? Imma predict never.

There is nothing he can say or do that Republicans would call for him to resign. They care more about not having primary challenges.

A thirty year old with no political experience could primary a Republican senator and if they speak out against him he would endorse their opponent and the base would vote for them like sheep.

Alex Jones - Senator.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:48 am
by Fahran
San Lumen wrote:A thirty year old with no political experience could primary a Republican senator and if they speak out against him he would endorse their opponent and the base would vote for them like sheep.

Quite a few anti-Trump Republicans have managed to hold onto their seats. They have to balance their criticisms with a degree of collaboration though given Trump's approval ratings among the Republican electoral base. And I don't think the voters are all just sheep. It's lazy to applaud successful politicians you like when they shape or capitalize on public opinon but then decry public opinion as wrong whenever it goes against your own notions.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:48 am
by Juristonia
The East Marches II wrote:No you were told being hysterical and retarded, as our media is, makes him do that. It's feeding the troll. He likes their cries. It isn't difficult to differentiate between the two. I know you can do it if you try :^)

He's a 73 year old man and the president. Next to the fact that the only person making him do anything is himself, and the fact that he's been behaving like this for decades, the reason behind it is irrelevant. It's not normal behaviour.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:48 am
by Nakena
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
San Lumen wrote:There is nothing he can say or do that Republicans would call for him to resign. They care more about not having primary challenges.

A thirty year old with no political experience could primary a Republican senator and if they speak out against him he would endorse their opponent and the base would vote for them like sheep.

Alex Jones - Senator.


He looked quite hot when he was younger.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:50 am
by Fahran
Nakena wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Alex Jones - Senator.


He looked quite hot when he was younger.

Ew.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:50 am
by San Lumen
Fahran wrote:
San Lumen wrote:A thirty year old with no political experience could primary a Republican senator and if they speak out against him he would endorse their opponent and the base would vote for them like sheep.

Quite a few anti-Trump Republicans have managed to hold onto their seats. They have to balance their criticisms with a degree of collaboration though given Trump's approval ratings among the Republican electoral base. And I don't think the voters are all just sheep. It's lazy to applaud successful politicians you like when they shape or capitalize on public opinon but then decry public opinion as wrong whenever it goes against your own notions.

Maybe Mitt Romney but that's it.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:50 am
by Juristonia
Fahran wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:How long until we add violating the Congress' constitutionally protected powers to declare war to the articles of impeachment?

He's not technically violating those since he isn't declaring war in a formal sense. We've never actually given any president too much grief for deciding to, say, topple the Libyan government or deciding to topple the Iraqi government.

Were you born very very recently or do you just have a very poor memory?

PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:51 am
by Fahran
San Lumen wrote:Maybe Mitt Romney but that's it.

I don't think you're too familiar with the internal politics of the GOP. Beyond that, calling the voters sheep is still a lazy cop-out that absolves candidates who lost to Trump of all responsibility for not engaging voters.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:52 am
by The East Marches II
Juristonia wrote:
Fahran wrote:He's not technically violating those since he isn't declaring war in a formal sense. We've never actually given any president too much grief for deciding to, say, topple the Libyan government or deciding to topple the Iraqi government.

Were you born very very recently or do you just have a very poor memory?


Your Europrotests didn't stop the establishment from going to war. Stop the war stopped nothing. The media marched in lockstep with Uncle Sam and blindly repeated what it was told. The public followed. You must not remember what it was like at the time for Libya either.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:53 am
by Fahran
Juristonia wrote:Were you born very very recently or do you just have a very poor memory?

I don't remember impeaching Bush or Obama because they initiated military interventions without a formal declaration of war from Congress. We had a decent heap of protesting under Bush but I do wonder quite a bit at the sincerity of the anti-war left given that they vanished a few years later when we toppled another government and went back to Iraq.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:54 am
by The East Marches II
Nakena wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Alex Jones - Senator.


He looked quite hot when he was younger.


I don't blame a man who hit the wall like that believing the chemicals are in the water.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:56 am
by Fahran
The East Marches II wrote:
Nakena wrote:
He looked quite hot when he was younger.


I don't blame a man who hit the wall like that believing the chemicals are in the water.

He was almost right about chemicals in the water turning the freakin' frogs gay. Except they're transgender frogs.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:57 am
by Gormwood
Fahran wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Maybe Mitt Romney but that's it.

I don't think you're too familiar with the internal politics of the GOP. Beyond that, calling the voters sheep is still a lazy cop-out that absolves candidates who lost to Trump of all responsibility for not engaging voters.

If engaging voters requires hailing Trump and following his agenda lock step then are those voters worth engaging?

PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:57 am
by Valrifell
Fahran wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
I don't blame a man who hit the wall like that believing the chemicals are in the water.

He was almost right about chemicals in the water turning the freakin' frogs gay. Except they're transgender frogs.


Fun fact: the whole study which that is a reference to was made by a quack who was quickly fired after it was revealed his conclusions didn't make sense.

He also threatened people over email.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:58 am
by Valrifell
Juristonia wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:No you were told being hysterical and retarded, as our media is, makes him do that. It's feeding the troll. He likes their cries. It isn't difficult to differentiate between the two. I know you can do it if you try :^)

He's a 73 year old man and the president. Next to the fact that the only person making him do anything is himself, and the fact that he's been behaving like this for decades, the reason behind it is irrelevant. It's not normal behaviour.


He's also got remarkably thin skin and a short temper, he doesn't like being called out. He very transparently wishes for adoration and cheers, not to snicker and jeer at the media. Sure, others around him might, but the Donald himself? Definitely not.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 11:01 am
by Gormwood
Valrifell wrote:
Juristonia wrote:He's a 73 year old man and the president. Next to the fact that the only person making him do anything is himself, and the fact that he's been behaving like this for decades, the reason behind it is irrelevant. It's not normal behaviour.


He's also got remarkably thin skin and a short temper, he doesn't like being called out. He very transparently wishes for adoration and cheers, not to snicker and jeer at the media. Sure, others around him might, but the Donald himself? Definitely not.

We needed Martin Sheen from The West Wing but instead got Martin Sheen from The Dead Zone.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 11:02 am
by Fahran
Gormwood wrote:If engaging voters requires hailing Trump and following his agenda lock step then are those voters worth engaging?

Not even remotely the point or true.