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MAGAThread XVII: All Things NOT Impeachment

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Which would be your favored candidate for the 2020 Republican Party presidential nomination?

Donald Trump
47
27%
Rocky De La Fuente
5
3%
Joe Walsh
4
2%
Bill Weld
23
13%
Bob Ely
0
No votes
Zoltan Istvan
6
3%
None of the above/other
30
17%
David Hasselhoff
58
34%
 
Total votes : 173

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San Lumen
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Postby San Lumen » Sun Jan 05, 2020 10:32 pm

Tarsonis wrote:
San Lumen wrote:And it seems lately our guidelines aren’t being enforced. Targeting cultural sites is a war crime and such an order should be refused.

How have they been terrible?


Do we even know what sites are actually targeted?

Cultural sites alone should tell you it shouldn’t be done

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Eahland
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Postby Eahland » Sun Jan 05, 2020 10:33 pm

Ifreann wrote:
West Leas Oros 2 wrote:We could have sent a CIA agent or something to assassinate Soleimani and just denied it, instead of doing it for all the world to see. Why didn't we do that?

Remember how well that worked for Castro?

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A: He's dead.
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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Sun Jan 05, 2020 10:37 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:We should if we don’t.

Why?

There’s not much reason not to.
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Postby Tarsonis » Sun Jan 05, 2020 10:37 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
Do we even know what sites are actually targeted?

Cultural sites alone should tell you it shouldn’t be done


Yeah but what specifically. Without a list it’s just Trump blustering.
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Postby Northern Davincia » Sun Jan 05, 2020 10:38 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:We have our own guidelines. Besides, the international community has done a terrible job at enforcing these rules.

And it seems lately our guidelines aren’t being enforced. Targeting cultural sites is a war crime and such an order should be refused.

How have they been terrible?

They haven't raised enough of a fuss to actually stop anyone from destroying cultural sites, or give some level of consequence.
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Loben The 2nd
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Postby Loben The 2nd » Sun Jan 05, 2020 11:04 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:And it seems lately our guidelines aren’t being enforced. Targeting cultural sites is a war crime and such an order should be refused.

How have they been terrible?

They haven't raised enough of a fuss to actually stop anyone from destroying cultural sites, or give some level of consequence.


seems like they were overburdened with indifference tbh.
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Loben The 2nd
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Postby Loben The 2nd » Sun Jan 05, 2020 11:04 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
Do we even know what sites are actually targeted?

Cultural sites alone should tell you it shouldn’t be done


cultural sites like what?
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Nakena
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Postby Nakena » Mon Jan 06, 2020 12:45 am

Bear Stearns wrote:



I don't really buy this. Even the anti-Trump elements of the State Department and intelligence community want war with Iran. They just don't want it to be done Trump's way.


Theres probably some anti-war elements inside the Deep State, those who are in favor of a war dont have atm any reason to speak out because things going in the same direction. Roughly.
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An Alan Smithee Nation
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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Mon Jan 06, 2020 2:03 am

West Leas Oros 2 wrote:We could have sent a CIA agent or something to assassinate Soleimani and just denied it, instead of doing it for all the world to see. Why didn't we do that?


Trump has a big mouth.
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Washington Resistance Army
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon Jan 06, 2020 2:05 am

West Leas Oros 2 wrote:We could have sent a CIA agent or something to assassinate Soleimani and just denied it, instead of doing it for all the world to see. Why didn't we do that?


Because everyone would have known it was us anyways. Might as well do it the simple way and make sure the dude dies.
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Vassenor
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Postby Vassenor » Mon Jan 06, 2020 2:38 am

Bear Stearns wrote:



I don't really buy this. Even the anti-Trump elements of the State Department and intelligence community want war with Iran. They just don't want it to be done Trump's way.


[citation needed]
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Pilipinas and Malaya
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Postby Pilipinas and Malaya » Mon Jan 06, 2020 2:46 am

Loben The 2nd wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Cultural sites alone should tell you it shouldn’t be done


cultural sites like what?


Sauce please. I haven’t seen anything about exactly which ones, but I’ll be looking for sauce too.
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Postby Vassenor » Mon Jan 06, 2020 2:51 am

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Pilipinas and Malaya
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Postby Pilipinas and Malaya » Mon Jan 06, 2020 3:19 am

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An Alan Smithee Nation
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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Mon Jan 06, 2020 3:29 am

Pilipinas and Malaya wrote:


Is there any with the specific sites? Or is hasn’t that been publicized.


Or perhaps the list doesn't exist. Perhaps he just took the number 52 from US hostages from the Iranian hostage crisis without doing any actual planning ahead.
Everything is intertwinkled

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Zapato
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Liberal Democratic Socialists

Postby Zapato » Mon Jan 06, 2020 5:09 am

An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:
Pilipinas and Malaya wrote:
Is there any with the specific sites? Or is hasn’t that been publicized.


Or perhaps the list doesn't exist. Perhaps he just took the number 52 from US hostages from the Iranian hostage crisis without doing any actual planning ahead.

So just like how he started this war with Iran: Without any plans for what happens next.


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Austria-Bohemia-Hungary
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Mon Jan 06, 2020 5:11 am

Zapato wrote:
An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:
Or perhaps the list doesn't exist. Perhaps he just took the number 52 from US hostages from the Iranian hostage crisis without doing any actual planning ahead.

So just like how he started this war with Iran: Without any plans for what happens next.

Hey, it worked for the Wehrmacht in Russia... for half a year... to the gates of Moscow.
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Zapato
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Postby Zapato » Mon Jan 06, 2020 5:16 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Zapato wrote:So just like how he started this war with Iran: Without any plans for what happens next.

Hey, it worked for the Wehrmacht in Russia... for half a year... to the gates of Moscow.

To be fair, they had a plan. Operation Otto was planned for a year, and got the green light from German High Command (Hitler) six months before it was launched.


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The East Marches II
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Postby The East Marches II » Mon Jan 06, 2020 5:26 am



The more a certain class of people in the US squeals, the more Trump will double down. He is an internet troll at heart. Feeding him is ill advised.

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Postby New haven america » Mon Jan 06, 2020 5:42 am

So Trump apparently has an $80 million open bounty on his head over his head due to his little assassination scheme.

Take that as you will.
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Gormwood
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Postby Gormwood » Mon Jan 06, 2020 6:17 am

New haven america wrote:So Trump apparently has an $80 million open bounty on his head over his head due to his little assassination scheme.

Take that as you will.

The only time in his life Trump earned $80 million.
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Postby Liriena » Mon Jan 06, 2020 6:21 am

The East Marches II wrote:


The more a certain class of people in the US squeals, the more Trump will double down. He is an internet troll at heart. Feeding him is ill advised.

But how do you starve a troll to death of that troll is also a president?
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Postby Gormwood » Mon Jan 06, 2020 6:21 am

Here's a list of World Heritage Sites in Iran that Trump has possibly threatened to go Taliban on.

List of World Heritage Sites in Iran
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Postby Liriena » Mon Jan 06, 2020 6:22 am

New haven america wrote:So Trump apparently has an $80 million open bounty on his head over his head due to his little assassination scheme.

Take that as you will.

It's gotta burn him that they aren't offering billions.
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Postby Vassenor » Mon Jan 06, 2020 6:22 am

The East Marches II wrote:


The more a certain class of people in the US squeals, the more Trump will double down. He is an internet troll at heart. Feeding him is ill advised.


Committing War Crimes to own the libs. Classy.
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