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Which would be your favored candidate for the 2020 Republican Party presidential nomination?

Donald Trump
47
27%
Rocky De La Fuente
5
3%
Joe Walsh
4
2%
Bill Weld
23
13%
Bob Ely
0
No votes
Zoltan Istvan
6
3%
None of the above/other
30
17%
David Hasselhoff
58
34%
 
Total votes : 173

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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Wed Nov 20, 2019 5:07 pm

Gormwood wrote:Trump press secretary faces backlash over claim that Obama aides left ‘you will fail’ notes

Looks like Obamanoia has learned to spread and survive outside of Trump's head.

Gormwood, this link made me sick if is true. I notice you seem to dislike President Donnie Trump so much, you like to make fun of President Trump. I for one don't do this on the leftist Democrat Presidents. I am not saying their is anything wrong with that, I am just saying I have noticed that. If this story is true for which their does not seem to be any real evidence, it would make me sick as a proud Republican and supporter of President Trump. I can assure you all it would make us Republicans sick.
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Postby Totenborg » Wed Nov 20, 2019 5:23 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Trump press secretary faces backlash over claim that Obama aides left ‘you will fail’ notes

Looks like Obamanoia has learned to spread and survive outside of Trump's head.

Gormwood, this link made me sick if is true. I notice you seem to dislike President Donnie Trump so much, you like to make fun of President Trump. I for one don't do this on the leftist Democrat Presidents. I am not saying their is anything wrong with that, I am just saying I have noticed that. If this story is true for which their does not seem to be any real evidence, it would make me sick as a proud Republican and supporter of President Trump. I can assure you all it would make us Republicans sick.

Yeah, but Trump is basically a cartoon character. He's like a parody of a president. The man is essentially a collection of flaws. It's almost impossible to not make fun of him.
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Postby Gormwood » Wed Nov 20, 2019 5:24 pm

Totenborg wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:Gormwood, this link made me sick if is true. I notice you seem to dislike President Donnie Trump so much, you like to make fun of President Trump. I for one don't do this on the leftist Democrat Presidents. I am not saying their is anything wrong with that, I am just saying I have noticed that. If this story is true for which their does not seem to be any real evidence, it would make me sick as a proud Republican and supporter of President Trump. I can assure you all it would make us Republicans sick.

Yeah, but Trump is basically a cartoon character. He's like a parody of a president. The man is essentially a collection of flaws. It's almost impossible to not make fun of him.

Not to mention he can't pass up a chance to insult critics and political opponents.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Wed Nov 20, 2019 5:33 pm

Totenborg wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:Gormwood, this link made me sick if is true. I notice you seem to dislike President Donnie Trump so much, you like to make fun of President Trump. I for one don't do this on the leftist Democrat Presidents. I am not saying their is anything wrong with that, I am just saying I have noticed that. If this story is true for which their does not seem to be any real evidence, it would make me sick as a proud Republican and supporter of President Trump. I can assure you all it would make us Republicans sick.

Yeah, but Trump is basically a cartoon character. He's like a parody of a president. The man is essentially a collection of flaws. It's almost impossible to not make fun of him.

Well not to me and millions of Republicans who strongly disagree with you all.
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Postby New haven america » Wed Nov 20, 2019 5:37 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Totenborg wrote:Yeah, but Trump is basically a cartoon character. He's like a parody of a president. The man is essentially a collection of flaws. It's almost impossible to not make fun of him.

Well not to me and millions of Republicans who strongly disagree with you all.

That just makes it worse.

You support a cartoon villain. And not a good or smart one, instead you support a Saturday morning villain.
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Postby Totenborg » Wed Nov 20, 2019 5:44 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Totenborg wrote:Yeah, but Trump is basically a cartoon character. He's like a parody of a president. The man is essentially a collection of flaws. It's almost impossible to not make fun of him.

Well not to me and millions of Republicans who strongly disagree with you all.

That's just because you're too close to the joke.
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Postby Bear Stearns » Wed Nov 20, 2019 6:43 pm

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Postby Gormwood » Thu Nov 21, 2019 9:20 am

Trump continues to support war criminals.

Trump Reverses Navy Decision to Oust Edward Gallagher From SEALs

Fine day when a military decision is reversed by a bone spur draft dodger.
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Nov 21, 2019 9:22 am

Gormwood wrote:Trump continues to support war criminals.

Trump Reverses Navy Decision to Oust Edward Gallagher From SEALs

Fine day when a military decision is reversed by a bone spur draft dodger.

Trump apparently believes the military is above the law. How any veteran or active service membercan still support this man is beyond my understanding.

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Postby Fartsniffage » Thu Nov 21, 2019 9:23 am

Gormwood wrote:Trump continues to support war criminals.

Trump Reverses Navy Decision to Oust Edward Gallagher From SEALs

Fine day when a military decision is reversed by a bone spur draft dodger.


3 murderers pardoned so far. This is nothing.

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Postby San Lumen » Thu Nov 21, 2019 9:25 am

Fartsniffage wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Trump continues to support war criminals.

Trump Reverses Navy Decision to Oust Edward Gallagher From SEALs

Fine day when a military decision is reversed by a bone spur draft dodger.


3 murderers pardoned so far. This is nothing.

And his cult like base likely has no issue with it

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Postby Ifreann » Thu Nov 21, 2019 9:29 am

Fartsniffage wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Trump continues to support war criminals.

Trump Reverses Navy Decision to Oust Edward Gallagher From SEALs

Fine day when a military decision is reversed by a bone spur draft dodger.


3 murderers pardoned so far. This is nothing.

Presumably the reason Trump didn't pardon Gallagher is that he wasn't convicted of murder.

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Postby Loben The 2nd » Thu Nov 21, 2019 9:31 am

What did Gallagher do apparently?
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Postby Asle Leopolka » Thu Nov 21, 2019 9:33 am

Ifreann wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
3 murderers pardoned so far. This is nothing.

Presumably the reason Trump didn't pardon Gallagher is that he wasn't convicted of murder.

He probably thought it was the comedian.
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Postby Chan Island » Thu Nov 21, 2019 9:34 am

Loben The 2nd wrote:What did Gallagher do apparently?


War crimes. Sniping civilians for fun mostly. He was reported by his own squad mates.
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Postby Loben The 2nd » Thu Nov 21, 2019 9:35 am

Chan Island wrote:
Loben The 2nd wrote:What did Gallagher do apparently?


War crimes. Sniping civilians for fun mostly. He was reported by his own squad mates.


Sniping civilians?
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Postby The Black Forrest » Thu Nov 21, 2019 9:37 am

Loben The 2nd wrote:What did Gallagher do apparently?


He was accused of shooting civilians, stabbing a wounded teenage boy(a captive) and posing for trophy photos.

He was acquitted on the shooting and stabbing charge.

A SEAL costs a great deal of money to make one. Tossing him over photos? I wonder if the Navy wanted to avoid attention on the first two?

Anyway. Trophy photos are a bozo nono for military personal.
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Postby Loben The 2nd » Thu Nov 21, 2019 9:39 am

The Black Forrest wrote:
Loben The 2nd wrote:What did Gallagher do apparently?


He was accused of shooting civilians, stabbing a wounded teenage boy(a captive) and posing for trophy photos.

He was acquitted on the shooting and stabbing charge.

A SEAL costs a great deal of money to make one. Tossing him over photos? I wonder if the Navy wanted to avoid attention on the first two?

Anyway. Trophy photos are a bozo nono for military personal.


Meh, a minor offense if there was one. Not like he wiped out a village or 2 like that one guy in Afghanistan.
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Postby Vassenor » Thu Nov 21, 2019 9:40 am

Loben The 2nd wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
He was accused of shooting civilians, stabbing a wounded teenage boy(a captive) and posing for trophy photos.

He was acquitted on the shooting and stabbing charge.

A SEAL costs a great deal of money to make one. Tossing him over photos? I wonder if the Navy wanted to avoid attention on the first two?

Anyway. Trophy photos are a bozo nono for military personal.


Meh, a minor offense if there was one. Not like he wiped out a village or 2 like that one guy in Afghanistan.


Desecration of a corpse and treating human beings like hunting trophies is minor?
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Postby Loben The 2nd » Thu Nov 21, 2019 9:41 am

Vassenor wrote:
Loben The 2nd wrote:
Meh, a minor offense if there was one. Not like he wiped out a village or 2 like that one guy in Afghanistan.


Desecration of a corpse and treating human beings like hunting trophies is minor?



Yes?

Said corpse irc was an isis fighter.
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Postby Gormwood » Thu Nov 21, 2019 9:43 am

Loben The 2nd wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Desecration of a corpse and treating human beings like hunting trophies is minor?



Yes?

Said corpse irc was an isis fighter.

But when foreign fighters parade around with the corpse of U.S. personnel it's an outrage amirite?
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Postby Loben The 2nd » Thu Nov 21, 2019 9:44 am

Gormwood wrote:
Loben The 2nd wrote:

Yes?

Said corpse irc was an isis fighter.

But when foreign fighters parade around with the corpse of U.S. personnel it's an outrage amirite?

Very. So glad you finally came around gauth!
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Postby Gormwood » Thu Nov 21, 2019 9:45 am

Loben The 2nd wrote:
Gormwood wrote:But when foreign fighters parade around with the corpse of U.S. personnel it's an outrage amirite?

Very.

So double standards. A shocker coming from you.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Thu Nov 21, 2019 9:45 am

Loben The 2nd wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Desecration of a corpse and treating human beings like hunting trophies is minor?



Yes?

Said corpse irc was an isis fighter.


Well? Not for the US. After My Lai; the military took a hard stance against such things.

The fact he was isis is still against the rules. We like to think we are the “good guys” on the battlefield. They have those rules so it does give the enemy justification for killing our prisoners. Does it prevent it? No.
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Postby Spirit of Hope » Thu Nov 21, 2019 9:46 am

The bigger problem is the navy is having a lot of trouble with inappropriate behavior in the SEALs, and punishing Gallagher was part of their attempt to crack down on the SEALs. President Trump blocking any punishment basically signals that the SEALs can ignore the Navy, which I'm sure will be great for discipline. Never mind overruling subordinates without a good reason is generally a no no in the armed forces, and Trumps reason appears to be it looks good to his base.
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