MAGAThread XVII: All Things NOT Impeachment

[San Lumen]

I remember Miami saying something like that.

No I cant admit it because that is not what I said. I said I don't approve of what the service man s did. But President Trump was considering their overall military record and service not just the incident. I answered your question honestly and correctly.

Can you just admit at this point you agree with anything the Democrats say against Trump?

They committed war crimes! Who cares about their military record?!

[Greater Miami Shores]

No I cant admit it because that is not what I said. I said I don't approve of what the service man s did. But President Trump was considering their overall military record and service not just the incident. I answered your question honestly and correctly.

Can you just admit at this point you agree with anything the Democrats say against Trump?

They committed war crimes! Who cares about their military record?!

I do not approve of killing any one in any way or form:
I President Trump and many Republicans care about their overall honorable military record for America - The USA.
Despite the war crimes they committed we don't approve of. This is what leftist liberal Democrats cant understand, but I understand their reasons and their feelings on this issue. It does not make me, President Trump and Republicans who share our views evil.

[San Lumen]

They committed war crimes! Who cares about their military record?!

I President Trump and many Republicans care about their overall honorable military record for America - The USA.
Despite the war crimes they committed we don't approve of. This is what leftist liberal Democrats cant understand, but I understand their reasons and their feelings on this issue. It does not make me, President Trump and Republicans who share our views evil.

What your saying is committing crimes is irrelevant as long as they have a good military record? Why don’t we simply declare active military officers are above the law? That’s a very dangerous door to open.

[Evil Dictators Happyland]

They committed war crimes! Who cares about their military record?!

I President Trump and many Republicans care about their overall honorable military record for America - The USA.
Despite the war crimes they committed we don't approve of. This is what leftist liberal Democrats cant understand, but I understand their reasons and their feelings on this issue. It does not make me, President Trump and Republicans who share our views evil.

Committing war crimes makes you dishonorable more or less by definition.

[Greater Miami Shores]

I President Trump and many Republicans care about their overall honorable military record for America - The USA.
Despite the war crimes they committed we don't approve of. This is what leftist liberal Democrats cant understand, but I understand their reasons and their feelings on this issue. It does not make me, President Trump and Republicans who share our views evil.

What your saying is committing crimes is irrelevant as long as they have a good military record? Why don’t we simply declare active military officers are above the law? That’s a very dangerous door to open.

Again let me make this very clear for the last time and the last back and forth. What you are saying is not what I said, thank you for your post. These Service man went to prison for x number of years, perhaps they should have gotten the death penalty but they did not get the death penalty in a US Court of law.

[San Lumen]

What your saying is committing crimes is irrelevant as long as they have a good military record? Why don’t we simply declare active military officers are above the law? That’s a very dangerous door to open.

Again let me make this very clear for the last time and the last back and forth. What you are saying is not what I said, thank you for your post.

Your heavily implying it. Why should committing a war crime be overlooked by a good military record. A crime is a crime

[Evil Dictators Happyland]

What your saying is committing crimes is irrelevant as long as they have a good military record? Why don’t we simply declare active military officers are above the law? That’s a very dangerous door to open.

Again let me make this very clear for the last time and the last back and forth. What you are saying is not what I said, thank you for your post.

Actually it is. You're ignoring their crimes and focusing entirely on the rest of the record, which amounts to saying that they should be above the law because they're soldiers.

[Fartsniffage]

I President Trump and many Republicans care about their overall honorable military record for America - The USA.
Despite the war crimes they committed we don't approve of. This is what leftist liberal Democrats cant understand, but I understand their reasons and their feelings on this issue. It does not make me, President Trump and Republicans who share our views evil.

Committing war crimes makes you dishonorable more or less by definition.

Stop being so harsh, it was only a little bit of murder. Just one each. It's not like they were making a habit of it. A stern talking to is all first time murderers need to get them back on the right path. The military was just being unfair with the courts martial for killing people and the prison terms. Give the guys a break.

[Farnhamia]

Committing war crimes makes you dishonorable more or less by definition.

Stop being so harsh, it was only a little bit of murder. Just one each. It's not like they were making a habit of it. A stern talking to is all first time murderers need to get them back on the right path. The military was just being unfair with the courts martial for killing people and the prison terms. Give the guys a break.

President Trump knows more than most of his generals about war. He would have been a true hero and won the Vietnam War if he hadn't been tragically afflicted with bone spurs.

[Fartsniffage]

Stop being so harsh, it was only a little bit of murder. Just one each. It's not like they were making a habit of it. A stern talking to is all first time murderers need to get them back on the right path. The military was just being unfair with the courts martial for killing people and the prison terms. Give the guys a break.

President Trump knows more than most of his generals about war. He would have been a true hero and won the Vietnam War if he hadn't been tragically afflicted with bone spurs.

He looks surprisingly like a young Winston Chuchill...

[Greater Miami Shores]

President Trump knows more than most of his generals about war. He would have been a true hero and won the Vietnam War if he hadn't been tragically afflicted with bone spurs.

He looks surprisingly like a young Winston Chuchill...

lol that is an awesome compliment above for President Trump from an anti Trump leftist.

[Greater Miami Shores]

Stop being so harsh, it was only a little bit of murder. Just one each. It's not like they were making a habit of it. A stern talking to is all first time murderers need to get them back on the right path. The military was just being unfair with the courts martial for killing people and the prison terms. Give the guys a break.

President Trump knows more than most of his generals about war. He would have been a true hero and won the Vietnam War if he hadn't been tragically afflicted with bone spurs.

Farnhamia, that is an awesome Pic of President Trump, I am going to place it on my imgur account and on my President Trump nation states nation factbook, thank you for the awesome Pic.

[Vassenor]

He looks surprisingly like a young Winston Chuchill...

lol that is an awesome compliment above for President Trump from an anti Trump leftist.

Who said it was a complement?

[Ifreann]

They committed war crimes! Who cares about their military record?!

I do not approve of killing any one in any way or form:
I President Trump and many Republicans care about their overall honorable military record for America - The USA.
Despite the war crimes they committed we don't approve of. This is what leftist liberal Democrats cant understand, but I understand their reasons and their feelings on this issue. It does not make me, President Trump and Republicans who share our views evil.

Trump pardoned these two murderers because he doesn't think the murders they committed were wrong.

[Salandriagado]

The bad incidents in question being murder, murder, and desecration of a corpse. And that last one really should have been murder as well. An injured ISIS fighter, a boy of fifteen, was brought back to the base where Edward Gallagher, the SEAL in question, was stationed. Gallagher walked up to the boy and stabbed him to death with a hunting knife he had brought from home, then posed for pictures with the body.

As that article from The Atlantic notes, this is the first time in US history that a president has pardoned soldiers of violent crimes committed in uniform, and based on his past comments Trump's pardons were based on his personal belief that this is how war is properly fought. He did not pardon these murderers because they served their nation honourably prior to committing murder, he did it because he thinks that what the murders they committed were good and right. Trump thinks that the men of the armed forces(I don't think he fully understands that there are women in the military too) are nothing more than killing machines, and should not be punished for killing.

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I just noticed, the page behind his little notepad is a printout of a tweet.

As I said I don't approve of the service man's actions, but President Trump is looking at the overall record of the service man's not just the incident, this is what the leftists democrats don't understand. I understand your reasons and your feelings on this issue.

Murderers are very often upstanding members of the community before they start commiting crimes. That doesn't mean that they get pardonned: any mitigating factors coming from that are taken account in the sentencing.

[Greater Miami Shores]

As I said I don't approve of the service man's actions, but President Trump is looking at the overall record of the service man's not just the incident, this is what the leftists democrats don't understand. I understand your reasons and your feelings on this issue.

Murderers are very often upstanding members of the community before they start commiting crimes. That doesn't mean that they get pardonned: any mitigating factors coming from that are taken account in the sentencing.

All US Presidents and Governors towards the end of their terms have pardoned criminals and persons with questionable records, I posted about this on one of my related posts. I don't approve of the war crimes the 2 US Service man s committed, but President Trump was considering their overall service record for America ( the USA) after being in prison for x time.

[Farnhamia]

Murderers are very often upstanding members of the community before they start commiting crimes. That doesn't mean that they get pardonned: any mitigating factors coming from that are taken account in the sentencing.

All US Presidents and Governors towards the end of their terms have pardoned criminals and persons with questionable records, I posted about this on one of my related posts. I don't approve of the war crimes the 2 US Service man s committed, but President Trump was considering their overall service record for America ( the USA) after being in prison for x time.

The Navy SEAL stabbed a 15-year-old to death and posed with the corpse, as if it were a deer, then bragged about it to a friend. To me, that deserves a very long prison sentence, not a presidential pardon.

[Vassenor]

All US Presidents and Governors towards the end of their terms have pardoned criminals and persons with questionable records, I posted about this on one of my related posts. I don't approve of the war crimes the 2 US Service man s committed, but President Trump was considering their overall service record for America ( the USA) after being in prison for x time.

The Navy SEAL stabbed a 15-year-old to death and posed with the corpse, as if it were a deer, then bragged about it to a friend. To me, that deserves a very long prison sentence, not a presidential pardon.

Not just a pardon. A fucking promotion directly over the wishes of his chain of command.

[Salandriagado]

Murderers are very often upstanding members of the community before they start commiting crimes. That doesn't mean that they get pardonned: any mitigating factors coming from that are taken account in the sentencing.

All US Presidents and Governors towards the end of their terms have pardoned criminals and persons with questionable records, I posted about this on one of my related posts.

Go on then. How many murderers did Obama pardon?

I don't approve of the war crimes the 2 US Service man s committed, but President Trump was considering their overall service record for America ( the USA) after being in prison for x time.

So yes, he was vastly overstepping what is reasonable and sticking his nose into the justice system in order to protect murderers.

[Greater Miami Shores]

All US Presidents and Governors towards the end of their terms have pardoned criminals and persons with questionable records, I posted about this on one of my related posts. I don't approve of the war crimes the 2 US Service man s committed, but President Trump was considering their overall service record for America ( the USA) after being in prison for x time.

The Navy SEAL stabbed a 15-year-old to death and posed with the corpse, as if it were a deer, then bragged about it to a friend. To me, that deserves a very long prison sentence, not a presidential pardon.

You all make an excellent point Farnhamia, I don't argue that they don't deserve a long prison sentence or the death penalty. but as I posted it above.

[San Lumen]

The Navy SEAL stabbed a 15-year-old to death and posed with the corpse, as if it were a deer, then bragged about it to a friend. To me, that deserves a very long prison sentence, not a presidential pardon.

You all make an excellent point Farnhamia, I don't argue that they don't deserve a long prison sentence or the death penalty. but as I posted it above.

Why then do you have no issue with the pardon?. There is no justification for it. And if you quote someone stop using the nation name. It’s unnecessary

[Heloin]

The Navy SEAL stabbed a 15-year-old to death and posed with the corpse, as if it were a deer, then bragged about it to a friend. To me, that deserves a very long prison sentence, not a presidential pardon.

You all make an excellent point Farnhamia, I don't argue that they don't deserve a long prison sentence or the death penalty. but as I posted it above.

You just argued that the pardon was totally fine which is different... somehow.

[Greater Miami Shores]

You all make an excellent point Farnhamia, I don't argue that they don't deserve a long prison sentence or the death penalty. but as I posted it above.

Why then do you have no issue with the pardon?. There is no justification for it. And if you quote someone stop using the nation name. It’s unnecessary

What I mean is I would have accepted a long prison sentence for the service man or the death penalty. But they did not get the death penalty in a US Court of Law. Then President Trump pardoned them based on their over all service record for America (the USA) and I understand his decision and his reasons to pardon them.

[San Lumen]

Why then do you have no issue with the pardon?. There is no justification for it. And if you quote someone stop using the nation name. It’s unnecessary

What I mean is I would have accepted a long prison sentence for the service man or the death penalty. But they did not get the death penalty in a US Court of Law. Then President Trump pardoned them based on their over all service record for America (the USA) and I understand his decision and his reasons to pardon them.

Why should there service matter over committing crimes? You are very much implying that soldiers should be above the law. That is a very dangerous door to open

[Salandriagado]

Why then do you have no issue with the pardon?. There is no justification for it. And if you quote someone stop using the nation name. It’s unnecessary

What I mean is I would have accepted a long prison sentence for the service man or the death penalty. But they did not get the death penalty in a US Court of Law. Then President Trump pardoned them based on their over all service record for America (the USA) and I understand his decision and his reasons to pardon them.

Having done good things in the past does not get you off crimes.