MAGAThread XVII: All Things NOT Impeachment

[Neutraligon]

Arguing that the other side is just as bad is not the same thing as arguing that your side is better. Even accepting this argument at face value, you still give us no reason to prefer the Republicans.

I a not giving any reasons to prefer the Republicans because it is a waste of time trying to convince Democrats on this site to prefer the Republicans. Arguing that both sides the Democrats and the Republicans do it too, when the Democrats are arguing the Republicans do it, is perfect example.

You atleast are unlikely to convince anyone on this site given the style of posts you make. Since you are unwilling to even put forward an argument for your side you definitely will not convince anyone. Like EDH stated, saying my side is equal to your side but I support my side is nonsensical.

[Ifreann]

Today's MAGAThread: "All dem nigguhs vote dems!"

A strange reaction indeed to the news story I posted.

[Aclion]

Does anyone actually respect our intelligence community?

[Greater Miami Shores]

Does anyone actually respect our intelligence community?

No.

[Neutraligon]

Does anyone actually respect our intelligence community?

To the extent of they know what they are talking about, yes.

[Ifreann]

Does anyone actually respect our intelligence community?

Maybe if they killed more innocent people they could get Trump to like them.

[Gormwood]

Does anyone actually respect our intelligence community?

To the extent of they know what they are talking about, yes.

Except for the individual one who should listen to and respect them.

[Asle Leopolka]

Does anyone actually respect our intelligence community?

I do. A few of my coworkers are IC alum and they're some of the best people I work with, so if the rest of the Community is half as capable as they are then we're in good hands.

Does anyone actually respect our intelligence community?

No.

Why not?

[Greater Miami Shores]

I a not giving any reasons to prefer the Republicans because it is a waste of time trying to convince Democrats on this site to prefer the Republicans. Arguing that both sides the Democrats and the Republicans do it too, when the Democrats are arguing the Republicans do it, is perfect example.

You atleast are unlikely to convince anyone on this site given the style of posts you make. Since you are unwilling to even put forward an argument for your side you definitely will not convince anyone. Like EDH stated, saying my side is equal to your side but I support my side is nonsensical.

I was not trying to convince anyone to support the Republicans. I was just pointing out to Gormwood that both sides pander to their base and to their hard core base, which they do. Gormwood would probably not accept my explanation anyway, would probably not agree with me anyway on this particular point.

[Neutraligon]

You atleast are unlikely to convince anyone on this site given the style of posts you make. Since you are unwilling to even put forward an argument for your side you definitely will not convince anyone. Like EDH stated, saying my side is equal to your side but I support my side is nonsensical.

I was not trying to convince anyone to support the Republicans. I was just pointing out to Gormwood that both sides pander to their base and to their hard core base, which they do. Gormwood would probably not accept my explanation anyway, would probably not agree with me anyway on this particular point.

Your post does not respond to my points. This is a repeated problem.

[Greater Miami Shores]

I was not trying to convince anyone to support the Republicans. I was just pointing out to Gormwood that both sides pander to their base and to their hard core base, which they do. Gormwood would probably not accept my explanation anyway, would probably not agree with me anyway on this particular point.

Your post does not respond to my points. This is a repeated problem.

I really and honestly don't understand. I posted a counter post to Gormwood stating both sides pander to their base using the example of African Americans. To Evil Dictators Happyland This is my argument to Gormwood's post.

Note Gormwood's post above mine on my post:
viewtopic.php?p=36452512#p36452512

Evil Happy Lands posted to me:
viewtopic.php?p=36452531#p36452531

So I posted to Evil Dictators Happlyland:
Arguing that both sides the Democrats and the Republicans do it too, when the Democrats are arguing the Republicans do it, is a perfect example. This is the argument I made to Evil Dictators Happyland.

Pearhaps I should not have added this to my post of the question he asked him:
I a not giving any reasons to prefer the Republicans because it is a waste of time trying to convince Democrats on this site to prefer the Republicans.
viewtopic.php?p=36452578#p36452578

Sorry but I really don't see anything wrong with this back and forth exchange.
other than perhaps adding I am not giving any reasons to prefer the Republicans so on and so on.
As an answer to his question, and I was not trying to change any Democrats mind to support Republicans anyway.

[Ifreann]

Your post does not respond to my points. This is a repeated problem.

I really and honestly don't understand. I posted a counter post to Gormwood stating both sides pander to their base using the example of African Americans. To Evil Dictators Happyland This is my argument to Gormwood's post.

Note Gormwood's post above mine on my post:
viewtopic.php?p=36452512#p36452512

Evil Happy Lands posted to me:
viewtopic.php?p=36452531#p36452531

So I posted to Evil Dictators Happlyland:
The argument I made and posted to Evil Happyland was:
Arguing that both sides the Democrats and the Republicans do it too, when the Democrats are arguing the Republicans do it, is a perfect example.

Pearhaps I should not have added this to my post of the question he asked him:
I a not giving any reasons to prefer the Republicans because it is a waste of time trying to convince Democrats on this site to prefer the Republicans.
viewtopic.php?p=36452578#p36452578

Sorry but I really don't see anything wrong with this back and forth exchange.

Trump recently pardoned two war criminals and ordered that a third be promoted. Any thoughts on that? Do you think it's good that two murderers will go free because Donald Trump thinks it's okay for soldiers to be murderers? Do you think it's good that someone convicted of desecrating a corpse will be promoted on the order of the President?

[The Black Forrest]

Does anyone actually respect our intelligence community?

Having once worked in it.....yes.

Republicans these days (especially the fake president) like to use it for the political arguments as the community is not allowed to comment or defend itself for various reasons.

It helps with the deep state nonsense.

[Greater Miami Shores]

I really and honestly don't understand. I posted a counter post to Gormwood stating both sides pander to their base using the example of African Americans. To Evil Dictators Happyland This is my argument to Gormwood's post.

Note Gormwood's post above mine on my post:
viewtopic.php?p=36452512#p36452512

Evil Happy Lands posted to me:
viewtopic.php?p=36452531#p36452531

So I posted to Evil Dictators Happlyland:
The argument I made and posted to Evil Happyland was:
Arguing that both sides the Democrats and the Republicans do it too, when the Democrats are arguing the Republicans do it, is a perfect example.

Pearhaps I should not have added this to my post of the question he asked him:
I a not giving any reasons to prefer the Republicans because it is a waste of time trying to convince Democrats on this site to prefer the Republicans.
viewtopic.php?p=36452578#p36452578

Sorry but I really don't see anything wrong with this back and forth exchange.

Trump recently pardoned two war criminals and ordered that a third be promoted. Any thoughts on that? Do you think it's good that two murderers will go free because Donald Trump thinks it's okay for soldiers to be murderers? Do you think it's good that someone convicted of desecrating a corpse will be promoted on the order of the President?

I don't know anything about these two war criminals. But all US Presidents have pardoned criminals and questionable persons at the end of their terms. I am now probably going to be criticized by a few of you for a deflection or a false unbalanced equivalence.

While I do not approve of what the two US Service man did, they served America honorably for many years before this incident. I think President Trump is looking at their entire record of service not just the incident they participated in which I don't approve of, but they still served the USA honorably for many years before this bad incident.

I just looked it up and I found an article on it from the Atlantic here are a few excerpts probably with a different take on it:

He also reversed the demotion of a Navy SEAL convicted of taking trophy pictures with an enemy corpse. All were brought to justice by their fellow servicemen and women; each prosecution relied on testimony from servicemen in the same units who witnessed the war crimes and reported them to military superiors.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archi ... ls/602140/

[Gravlen]

Trump has started writing his personal theme song:



I think it's set to "Money for nothing"...

[Greater Miami Shores]

Trump has started writing his personal theme song:

(Image)

I think it's set to "Money for nothing"...

Great post wrong thread Gravlen, please post your awesome post on the Trump impeachment thread, and I for one will comment on it.

[The Black Forrest]

While I do not approve of what the two US Service man did, they served America honorably for many years before this incident. I think President Trump is looking at their entire record of service not just the incident they participated in which I don't approve of, but they still served the USA honorably for many years before this bad incident.

That makes absolutely no sense?

Here a an extreme version of your logic.

These guys served their country honorable for years; the fact they massacred a village shouldn't exclude all they did in the past.

You can't say "I don't approve" and then defend what trump did.

The men pardoned were punished by the military after review. Find another President who has pardoned similar actions by military personnel.

[San Lumen]

Trump recently pardoned two war criminals and ordered that a third be promoted. Any thoughts on that? Do you think it's good that two murderers will go free because Donald Trump thinks it's okay for soldiers to be murderers? Do you think it's good that someone convicted of desecrating a corpse will be promoted on the order of the President?

I don't know anything about these two war criminals. But all US Presidents have pardoned criminals and questionable persons at the end of their terms. I am now probably going to be criticized by a few of you for a deflection or a false unbalanced equivalence.

While I do not approve of what the two US Service man did, they served America honorably for many years before this incident. I think President Trump is looking at their entire record of service not just the incident they participated in which I don't approve of, but they still served the USA honorably for many years before this bad incident.

I just looked it up and I found an article on it from the Atlantic here are a few excerpts probably with a different take on it:

He also reversed the demotion of a Navy SEAL convicted of taking trophy pictures with an enemy corpse. All were brought to justice by their fellow servicemen and women; each prosecution relied on testimony from servicemen in the same units who witnessed the war crimes and reported them to military superiors.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archi ... ls/602140/

What your saying is you don’t care that they committed war crimes. Can you just admit at this point there is nothing this president can do that you would withdraw support?

[Bear Stearns]

Does anyone actually respect our intelligence community?

No.

[Bear Stearns]

Today's MAGAThread: "All dem nigguhs vote dems!"

yo cuh you know what it be we out frontin' n grinding for that DEM-O-CRATIC partayy, know what im saying? we chillin on that you know what it is representing the hustle respect the gayme nigga

[Gormwood]

Does anyone actually respect our intelligence community?

It's only a crime for Democrats to disrespect it.

[Ifreann]

Trump recently pardoned two war criminals and ordered that a third be promoted. Any thoughts on that? Do you think it's good that two murderers will go free because Donald Trump thinks it's okay for soldiers to be murderers? Do you think it's good that someone convicted of desecrating a corpse will be promoted on the order of the President?

I don't know anything about these two war criminals. But all US Presidents have pardoned criminals and questionable persons at the end of their terms. I am now probably going to be criticized by a few of you for a deflection or a false unbalanced equivalence.

While I do not approve of what the two US Service man did, they served America honorably for many years before this incident. I think President Trump is looking at their entire record of service not just the incident they participated in which I don't approve of, but they still served the USA honorably for many years before this bad incident.

I just looked it up and I found an article on it from the Atlantic here are a few excerpts probably with a different take on it:

He also reversed the demotion of a Navy SEAL convicted of taking trophy pictures with an enemy corpse. All were brought to justice by their fellow servicemen and women; each prosecution relied on testimony from servicemen in the same units who witnessed the war crimes and reported them to military superiors.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archi ... ls/602140/

The bad incidents in question being murder, murder, and desecration of a corpse. And that last one really should have been murder as well. An injured ISIS fighter, a boy of fifteen, was brought back to the base where Edward Gallagher, the SEAL in question, was stationed. Gallagher walked up to the boy and stabbed him to death with a hunting knife he had brought from home, then posed for pictures with the body.

As that article from The Atlantic notes, this is the first time in US history that a president has pardoned soldiers of violent crimes committed in uniform, and based on his past comments Trump's pardons were based on his personal belief that this is how war is properly fought. He did not pardon these murderers because they served their nation honourably prior to committing murder, he did it because he thinks that what the murders they committed were good and right. Trump thinks that the men of the armed forces(I don't think he fully understands that there are women in the military too) are nothing more than killing machines, and should not be punished for killing.

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Trump has started writing his personal theme song:

(Image)

I think it's set to "Money for nothing"...

I just noticed, the page behind his little notepad is a printout of a tweet.

[Greater Miami Shores]

I don't know anything about these two war criminals. But all US Presidents have pardoned criminals and questionable persons at the end of their terms. I am now probably going to be criticized by a few of you for a deflection or a false unbalanced equivalence.

While I do not approve of what the two US Service man did, they served America honorably for many years before this incident. I think President Trump is looking at their entire record of service not just the incident they participated in which I don't approve of, but they still served the USA honorably for many years before this bad incident.

I just looked it up and I found an article on it from the Atlantic here are a few excerpts probably with a different take on it:

He also reversed the demotion of a Navy SEAL convicted of taking trophy pictures with an enemy corpse. All were brought to justice by their fellow servicemen and women; each prosecution relied on testimony from servicemen in the same units who witnessed the war crimes and reported them to military superiors.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archi ... ls/602140/

The bad incidents in question being murder, murder, and desecration of a corpse. And that last one really should have been murder as well. An injured ISIS fighter, a boy of fifteen, was brought back to the base where Edward Gallagher, the SEAL in question, was stationed. Gallagher walked up to the boy and stabbed him to death with a hunting knife he had brought from home, then posed for pictures with the body.

As that article from The Atlantic notes, this is the first time in US history that a president has pardoned soldiers of violent crimes committed in uniform, and based on his past comments Trump's pardons were based on his personal belief that this is how war is properly fought. He did not pardon these murderers because they served their nation honourably prior to committing murder, he did it because he thinks that what the murders they committed were good and right. Trump thinks that the men of the armed forces(I don't think he fully understands that there are women in the military too) are nothing more than killing machines, and should not be punished for killing.

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Trump has started writing his personal theme song:

(Image)

I think it's set to "Money for nothing"...

I just noticed, the page behind his little notepad is a printout of a tweet.

As I said I don't approve of the service man's actions, but President Trump is looking at the overall record of the service man's not just the incident, this is what the leftists democrats don't understand. I understand your reasons and your feelings on this issue.

[Evil Dictators Happyland]

I don't know anything about these two war criminals. But all US Presidents have pardoned criminals and questionable persons at the end of their terms. I am now probably going to be criticized by a few of you for a deflection or a false unbalanced equivalence.

While I do not approve of what the two US Service man did, they served America honorably for many years before this incident. I think President Trump is looking at their entire record of service not just the incident they participated in which I don't approve of, but they still served the USA honorably for many years before this bad incident.

I just looked it up and I found an article on it from the Atlantic here are a few excerpts probably with a different take on it:

He also reversed the demotion of a Navy SEAL convicted of taking trophy pictures with an enemy corpse. All were brought to justice by their fellow servicemen and women; each prosecution relied on testimony from servicemen in the same units who witnessed the war crimes and reported them to military superiors.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archi ... ls/602140/

What your saying is you don’t care that they committed war crimes. Can you just admit at this point there is nothing this president can do that you would withdraw support?

I remember Miami saying something like that.

[Greater Miami Shores]

What your saying is you don’t care that they committed war crimes. Can you just admit at this point there is nothing this president can do that you would withdraw support?

I remember Miami saying something like that.

No I cant admit it because that is not what I said. I said I don't approve of what the service man s did. But President Trump was considering their overall military record and service not just the incident. I answered your question honestly and correctly.

Can you just admit at this point you agree with anything the Democrats say against Trump?