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Which would be your favored candidate for the 2020 Republican Party presidential nomination?

Donald Trump
47
27%
Rocky De La Fuente
5
3%
Joe Walsh
4
2%
Bill Weld
23
13%
Bob Ely
0
No votes
Zoltan Istvan
6
3%
None of the above/other
30
17%
David Hasselhoff
58
34%
 
Total votes : 173

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Postby Totenborg » Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:53 pm

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Totenborg wrote:Yeaaaah... I don't know many leftists who are making excuses for Biden. As to your last point about Trump, we're against him because he's a buffoonish career conman who is throwing kids in cages and destroying America's soft power internationally, amongst other things.


America's soft power is a source of global misery (how many Libyans and Iraqis are dead because of it?) so I'm glad it's being ruined.

Because the ability to form alliances and to work out problems diplomatically is bad. Gotcha. Also, since when is military force considered soft power?
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Postby Telconi » Mon Nov 18, 2019 11:53 pm

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Greater Miami Shores wrote:In that case just like any other US President or world leader and I mean politically, which in this case President Trump does not have and is being accused of anything the Democrats and Democratic Presidential candidates can think of against him to weaken him politically, including his health. Their are many similar ways to say it.

Funny how many leftist Democrats defend and excuse Joe Biden's constant gaffes, for their political reasons and support of Joe Biden, than complain and or make fun of President Trump's health. President Trump does his job as President of America - The USA, those who criticize him or make fun of him are just against him politically, lets not deny it.

Yeaaaah... I don't know many leftists who are making excuses for Biden. As to your last point about Trump, we're against him because he's a buffoonish career conman who is throwing kids in cages and destroying America's soft power internationally, amongst other things.


Given that he's pretty high in the polls, a significant number seem to be making excuses at some level.
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Postby The East Marches II » Tue Nov 19, 2019 12:06 am

Totenborg wrote:
Bear Stearns wrote:
America's soft power is a source of global misery (how many Libyans and Iraqis are dead because of it?) so I'm glad it's being ruined.

Because the ability to form alliances and to work out problems diplomatically is bad. Gotcha. Also, since when is military force considered soft power?


Yes, our diplomatists have an awful track record and the State Department continually proves its room temperature collective IQ

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Postby True Refuge » Tue Nov 19, 2019 12:25 am

Telconi wrote:
Totenborg wrote:Yeaaaah... I don't know many leftists who are making excuses for Biden. As to your last point about Trump, we're against him because he's a buffoonish career conman who is throwing kids in cages and destroying America's soft power internationally, amongst other things.


Given that he's pretty high in the polls, a significant number seem to be making excuses at some level.


The Democrats are quite broad and factional, as are most major parties everywhere.Sanders and Warren combined have a little more of the vote than Biden. It’s very unlikely that people who are genuinely left-wing rather than centrist or neoliberal are making excuses for Biden in any large numbers compared to the politically indifferent or moderate elements of the party.
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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Tue Nov 19, 2019 12:26 am

Telconi wrote:
Totenborg wrote:Yeaaaah... I don't know many leftists who are making excuses for Biden. As to your last point about Trump, we're against him because he's a buffoonish career conman who is throwing kids in cages and destroying America's soft power internationally, amongst other things.


Given that he's pretty high in the polls, a significant number seem to be making excuses at some level.

Liberals like him. Leftists don't. There is your answer.
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Postby Gravlen » Tue Nov 19, 2019 2:00 am

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Given that he's pretty high in the polls, a significant number seem to be making excuses at some level.

Liberals like him. Leftists don't. There is your answer.

And on the other side of the spectrum, republicans in the Democratic party seems to like him pretty uniformly.
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Postby Gravlen » Tue Nov 19, 2019 8:34 am

A Manhattan judge has again denied President Donald Trump's request to dismiss a defamation lawsuit filed by former "Apprentice" contestant Summer Zervos against him, clearing the way for the President to be deposed by January 31.

Judge denies Trump's request to dismiss Summer Zervos defamation case

The Zervos case continues.
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Postby Gormwood » Tue Nov 19, 2019 9:35 am

Gravlen wrote:
A Manhattan judge has again denied President Donald Trump's request to dismiss a defamation lawsuit filed by former "Apprentice" contestant Summer Zervos against him, clearing the way for the President to be deposed by January 31.

Judge denies Trump's request to dismiss Summer Zervos defamation case

The Zervos case continues.

Deposed. Get the popcorn, Donnie's gonna lie out his ass on the stand again.
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Postby Gormwood » Tue Nov 19, 2019 9:39 am

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Tue Nov 19, 2019 9:41 am

Gormwood wrote:
Gravlen wrote:
A Manhattan judge has again denied President Donald Trump's request to dismiss a defamation lawsuit filed by former "Apprentice" contestant Summer Zervos against him, clearing the way for the President to be deposed by January 31.

Judge denies Trump's request to dismiss Summer Zervos defamation case

The Zervos case continues.

Deposed. Get the popcorn, Donnie's gonna lie out his ass on the stand again.

I think he's just going to keep testing the waters by just refusing to comply and see what they can or can't do about it.
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Postby Gormwood » Tue Nov 19, 2019 9:52 am

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Deposed. Get the popcorn, Donnie's gonna lie out his ass on the stand again.

I think he's just going to keep testing the waters by just refusing to comply and see what they can or can't do about it.

And of course the "Justice" Department will spoil him like a brat manbaby.
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Postby Gormwood » Tue Nov 19, 2019 9:55 am

Cue cries of political persecution and "Death To California" hateboners from Free Market fanboys.

California to Stop Buying From Automakers That Backed Trump on Emissions
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Nov 19, 2019 9:57 am

Gormwood wrote:Cue cries of political persecution and "Death To California" hateboners from Free Market fanboys.

California to Stop Buying From Automakers That Backed Trump on Emissions


Which is ironic because the state is acting exactly like a customer in said free market would.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue Nov 19, 2019 10:26 am

Vassenor wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Cue cries of political persecution and "Death To California" hateboners from Free Market fanboys.

California to Stop Buying From Automakers That Backed Trump on Emissions


Which is ironic because the state is acting exactly like a customer in said free market would.


What you are going to hear is how the state is preventing the citizens from exercising the “freedom”

Never mind the concept of the majority probably being ok with this move.

Even then; it’s a paper tiger if they don’t act on it.
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Postby Nakena » Tue Nov 19, 2019 10:48 am

Gormwood wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:I think he's just going to keep testing the waters by just refusing to comply and see what they can or can't do about it.

And of course the "Justice" Department will spoil him like a brat manbaby.


Hey, we gotta have to coddle Donnie a little.

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Postby Vassenor » Tue Nov 19, 2019 10:54 am

The Black Forrest wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Which is ironic because the state is acting exactly like a customer in said free market would.


What you are going to hear is how the state is preventing the citizens from exercising the “freedom”

Never mind the concept of the majority probably being ok with this move.

Even then; it’s a paper tiger if they don’t act on it.


By choosing not to give government vehicle contracts to those companies?
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Postby Eahland » Tue Nov 19, 2019 11:22 am

The Rich Port wrote:I mean, it's still hilarious he thinks he's some kind of health magnate, considering he barely does anything in office beyond sit around watching FOX News, play golf, and eat McDonald's, I'm sure he'll be fiiiiine.

I have heard that Trump believes that you're born with a fixed amount of energy, and when you use it all up, you die. So the reason he does as little exercise as possible is that exercising uses up your energy faster and so you die sooner.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Tue Nov 19, 2019 11:32 am

Gormwood wrote:
Gravlen wrote:
A Manhattan judge has again denied President Donald Trump's request to dismiss a defamation lawsuit filed by former "Apprentice" contestant Summer Zervos against him, clearing the way for the President to be deposed by January 31.

Judge denies Trump's request to dismiss Summer Zervos defamation case

The Zervos case continues.

Deposed. Get the popcorn, Donnie's gonna lie out his ass on the stand again.

Gormwood, I already have my popcorn with butter ready. Summer Zervos sounds like she wants money $. If she can prove her case against President Trump she will prove her case. If she cant prove her case against President Trump she wont prove her case.

If President Trump is guilty he will defend himself strongly. If President Trump is innocent he will defend himself strongly. I think you an I and the other guys would do the same under the circumstances as I have described. But I really cant say I would, because I don't treat Ladies that way.

I am a gentleman like President Ronald Reagan was a gentleman, they don't make them like President Ronald Reagan anymore.

Granted President Trump is no gentleman. But that does not mean President Trump is guilty.

Anyway President Trump is rich $ enough to afford it $. But guilty or not guilty naturally he is going to defend himself against the defamation charges against him.
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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Nov 19, 2019 11:32 am

Eahland wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:I mean, it's still hilarious he thinks he's some kind of health magnate, considering he barely does anything in office beyond sit around watching FOX News, play golf, and eat McDonald's, I'm sure he'll be fiiiiine.

I have heard that Trump believes that you're born with a fixed amount of energy, and when you use it all up, you die. So the reason he does as little exercise as possible is that exercising uses up your energy faster and so you die sooner.

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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Tue Nov 19, 2019 11:34 am

Farnhamia wrote:
Eahland wrote:I have heard that Trump believes that you're born with a fixed amount of energy, and when you use it all up, you die. So the reason he does as little exercise as possible is that exercising uses up your energy faster and so you die sooner.

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So that's why President Trump has a weight problem, now I know.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Nov 19, 2019 11:35 am

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Deposed. Get the popcorn, Donnie's gonna lie out his ass on the stand again.

Gormwood, I already have my popcorn with butter ready. Summer Zervos sounds like she wants money $. If she can prove her case against President Trump she will prove her case. If she cant prove her case against President Trump she wont prove her case.

If President Trump is guilty he will defend himself strongly. If President Trump is innocent he will defend himself strongly. I think you an I and the other guys would do the same under the circumstances as I have described. But I really cant say I would, because I don't treat Ladies that way.

I am a gentleman like President Ronald Reagan was a gentleman, they don't make them like President Ronald Reagan anymore.

Granted President Trump is no gentleman. But that does not mean President Trump is guilty.

Anyway President Trump is rich $ enough to afford it $. But guilty or not guilty naturally he is going to defend himself against the defamation charges against him.

I think it’s quite clear at this point you would support Trump no matter what. The fact that you said you’d attend Trump University a proven scam says it all

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Postby Zurkerx » Tue Nov 19, 2019 11:36 am

Farnhamia wrote:
Eahland wrote:I have heard that Trump believes that you're born with a fixed amount of energy, and when you use it all up, you die. So the reason he does as little exercise as possible is that exercising uses up your energy faster and so you die sooner.

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I didn't believe this until a quick search showed it's allegedly/apparently true.
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Postby Proctopeo » Tue Nov 19, 2019 11:36 am

Farnhamia wrote:
Eahland wrote:I have heard that Trump believes that you're born with a fixed amount of energy, and when you use it all up, you die. So the reason he does as little exercise as possible is that exercising uses up your energy faster and so you die sooner.

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Maybe he knows something we don't.
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Postby Major-Tom » Tue Nov 19, 2019 11:37 am

Eahland wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:I mean, it's still hilarious he thinks he's some kind of health magnate, considering he barely does anything in office beyond sit around watching FOX News, play golf, and eat McDonald's, I'm sure he'll be fiiiiine.

I have heard that Trump believes that you're born with a fixed amount of energy, and when you use it all up, you die. So the reason he does as little exercise as possible is that exercising uses up your energy faster and so you die sooner.


When I was a wee kid, like 4 years old, I thought that for every piece of candy I'd eat, I could just pop a grape or carrot, and it would neutralize the negative effects of the candy. One Reeses Cup? No probs, just eat a strawberry.

Trump is following the same logic as 4 year old me, who was as dense as rubber cement.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Tue Nov 19, 2019 11:38 am

San Lumen wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:Gormwood, I already have my popcorn with butter ready. Summer Zervos sounds like she wants money $. If she can prove her case against President Trump she will prove her case. If she cant prove her case against President Trump she wont prove her case.

If President Trump is guilty he will defend himself strongly. If President Trump is innocent he will defend himself strongly. I think you an I and the other guys would do the same under the circumstances as I have described. But I really cant say I would, because I don't treat Ladies that way.

I am a gentleman like President Ronald Reagan was a gentleman, they don't make them like President Ronald Reagan anymore.

Granted President Trump is no gentleman. But that does not mean President Trump is guilty.

Anyway President Trump is rich $ enough to afford it $. But guilty or not guilty naturally he is going to defend himself against the defamation charges against him.

I think it’s quite clear at this point you would support Trump no matter what. The fact that you said you’d attend Trump University a proven scam says it all

Just like you support the Democrats no difference, we disagree on President Trump's so called guilt. Please meet me right now on the Trump impeachment thread to answer your question.
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