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Which would be your favored candidate for the 2020 Republican Party presidential nomination?

Donald Trump
47
27%
Rocky De La Fuente
5
3%
Joe Walsh
4
2%
Bill Weld
23
13%
Bob Ely
0
No votes
Zoltan Istvan
6
3%
None of the above/other
30
17%
David Hasselhoff
58
34%
 
Total votes : 173

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Postby The East Marches II » Sun Nov 17, 2019 9:54 am



Best of luck to him in the podcast world! A pity he was fired. He has my condolences. The free world's press isn't very free anymore. Here is to hoping we get a good replacement.
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Postby Genivaria » Sun Nov 17, 2019 9:55 am

The East Marches II wrote:


Best of luck to him in the podcast world! A pity he was fired. He has my condolences.

Integrity is an expensive thing to maintain nowadays, my respect nonetheless.
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Postby Neutraligon » Sun Nov 17, 2019 9:56 am

The East Marches II wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:very much so, given the differences in use between scientific theory and colloquial theory. But then, once again, the term militant was already used colloquially to talk about people who took up arms to support a cause. By using it the way you are, you are so diminishing what the term means as to make it a pointless term. The only use for the term as you are using it is as basically an insult.


Why would you take a descriptor as an insult? You are the only apportioning something negative to it. Why can't you see past your own negative connotations? I didn't diminish anything. This may come as a surprise to you, but some times words have multiple definitions. I would infact be complimented if you were to say I was a militant defender of privacy for instance.

Neutraligon wrote:Nice of you to admit your mistake. :D


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Postby The East Marches II » Sun Nov 17, 2019 9:57 am

Genivaria wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
Best of luck to him in the podcast world! A pity he was fired. He has my condolences.

Integrity is an expensive thing to maintain nowadays, my respect nonetheless.


A man with integrity in these times is worth his weight in gold. I see now why the Romans bemoaned the lack of good men during the last days of the Republic. When they are gone, society feels their loss acutely.

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Postby Nakena » Sun Nov 17, 2019 11:22 am

The East Marches II wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Integrity is an expensive thing to maintain nowadays, my respect nonetheless.


A man with integrity in these times is worth his weight in gold. I see now why the Romans bemoaned the lack of good men during the last days of the Republic. When they are gone, society feels their loss acutely.


Any system can only as good as those who fill it with life. If the good men are gone or getting few, a republic, which is by definition a public affair, is not going to be last and inevitably doomed.

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Postby Northern Davincia » Sun Nov 17, 2019 12:32 pm

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Rainbowsix wrote:i saw this picture i want to know what everyone thinks about it...

Person1: Bucky, you're a republican, you'll like this. How many republicans does it take to change a light bulb?
Person2: ...
Person1: Nobody knows! They won't release that information! HA HA HA!
Person2: Oh yeah? Well do you know how many liberals does it take to change a light bulb?
Person1: Well with the proper funding-
Person2: They never change anything, they just cry over the broken light bulb!

Interesting how liberals, at the same time, are SJWs intent on taking away everyone’s freedoms and crybabies who never take action.

Their desire is to deprive freedom, they're just wildly inept at it. These are not contradictory ideas.
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Postby Myrensis » Sun Nov 17, 2019 1:09 pm

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:
Rainbowsix wrote:i saw this picture i want to know what everyone thinks about it...

Person1: Bucky, you're a republican, you'll like this. How many republicans does it take to change a light bulb?
Person2: ...
Person1: Nobody knows! They won't release that information! HA HA HA!
Person2: Oh yeah? Well do you know how many liberals does it take to change a light bulb?
Person1: Well with the proper funding-
Person2: They never change anything, they just cry over the broken light bulb!

Interesting how liberals, at the same time, are SJWs intent on taking away everyone’s freedoms and crybabies who never take action.


Conservatives are always in need of quantum villains, simultaneously an omnipresent threat but also totally incompetent.

It's necessary to maintain their world view of themselves as being the tough, brave, clear-eyed, independent bootstrap puller uppers who can crush those mewling safe space liberal snowflake weaklings with ease, but also the constantly oppressed and persecuted underdogs under constant threat from the liberal menace that controls everything.
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Postby Nakena » Sun Nov 17, 2019 1:15 pm

Myrensis wrote:
Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:Interesting how liberals, at the same time, are SJWs intent on taking away everyone’s freedoms and crybabies who never take action.


Conservatives are always in need of quantum villains, simultaneously an omnipresent threat but also totally incompetent.

It's necessary to maintain their world view of themselves as being the tough, brave, clear-eyed, independent bootstrap puller uppers who can crush those mewling safe space liberal snowflake weaklings with ease, but also the constantly oppressed and persecuted underdogs under constant threat from the liberal menace that controls everything.


Meanwhile communists and marxists are always and permanently being oppressed by the inescapable and sinister mechanistic omniforces of Capitalizm. It's like strapped to a chair inside a room with the walls full of spikes and other instruments of terror moving closer.

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Postby Kowani » Sun Nov 17, 2019 1:33 pm

Nakena wrote:
Myrensis wrote:
Conservatives are always in need of quantum villains, simultaneously an omnipresent threat but also totally incompetent.

It's necessary to maintain their world view of themselves as being the tough, brave, clear-eyed, independent bootstrap puller uppers who can crush those mewling safe space liberal snowflake weaklings with ease, but also the constantly oppressed and persecuted underdogs under constant threat from the liberal menace that controls everything.


Meanwhile communists and marxists are always and permanently being oppressed by the inescapable and sinister mechanistic omniforces of Capitalizm. It's like strapped to a chair inside a room with the walls full of spikes and other instruments of terror moving closer.

It should be noted, however, that the two situations are not quite the same. Conservatism creates the image of liberals who are a total threat to everything they love yet simultaneously weak-willed and incapable of doing anything. At the very least, leftist realizes that capitalism is an actual threat to it.
Abolitionism in the North has leagued itself with Radical Democracy, and so the Slave Power was forced to ally itself with the Money Power; that is the great fact of the age.




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Postby Ifreann » Sun Nov 17, 2019 1:38 pm

Kowani wrote:
Nakena wrote:
Meanwhile communists and marxists are always and permanently being oppressed by the inescapable and sinister mechanistic omniforces of Capitalizm. It's like strapped to a chair inside a room with the walls full of spikes and other instruments of terror moving closer.

It should be noted, however, that the two situations are not quite the same. Conservatism creates the image of liberals who are a total threat to everything they love yet simultaneously weak-willed and incapable of doing anything. At the very least, leftist realizes that capitalism is an actual threat to it.

That idea of the enemy being simultaneously strong and weak is commonly cited as a typical element of fascism more than conservatism.

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Postby The Rich Port » Sun Nov 17, 2019 1:44 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Kowani wrote:It should be noted, however, that the two situations are not quite the same. Conservatism creates the image of liberals who are a total threat to everything they love yet simultaneously weak-willed and incapable of doing anything. At the very least, leftist realizes that capitalism is an actual threat to it.

That idea of the enemy being simultaneously strong and weak is commonly cited as a typical element of fascism more than conservatism.


Coincidentally, also a common tactic of under-aged Fortnite players.

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Postby Kowani » Sun Nov 17, 2019 1:45 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Kowani wrote:It should be noted, however, that the two situations are not quite the same. Conservatism creates the image of liberals who are a total threat to everything they love yet simultaneously weak-willed and incapable of doing anything. At the very least, leftist realizes that capitalism is an actual threat to it.

That idea of the enemy being simultaneously strong and weak is commonly cited as a typical element of fascism more than conservatism.

Perhaps. Although American conservatism seems to be borrowing that tactic.
Abolitionism in the North has leagued itself with Radical Democracy, and so the Slave Power was forced to ally itself with the Money Power; that is the great fact of the age.




The triumph of the Democracy is essential to the struggle of popular liberty


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Postby Ifreann » Sun Nov 17, 2019 1:58 pm

Kowani wrote:
Ifreann wrote:That idea of the enemy being simultaneously strong and weak is commonly cited as a typical element of fascism more than conservatism.

Perhaps. Although American conservatism seems to be borrowing that tactic.

Then perhaps there's more to them than just conservatism.

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Postby Nakena » Sun Nov 17, 2019 2:09 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Kowani wrote:Perhaps. Although American conservatism seems to be borrowing that tactic.

Then perhaps there's more to them than just conservatism.


Yes. Communism.

You know, your friendo Jeff Bezos lurking behind every corner.

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Postby The Rich Port » Sun Nov 17, 2019 2:10 pm

Nakena wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Then perhaps there's more to them than just conservatism.


Yes. Communism.

You know, your friendo Jeff Bezos lurking behind every corner.


:lol: Damn my brain.

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Postby Aureumterra » Sun Nov 17, 2019 3:02 pm

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Postby Kowani » Sun Nov 17, 2019 3:06 pm

Nakena wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Then perhaps there's more to them than just conservatism.


Yes. Communism.

You know, your friendo Jeff Bezos lurking behind every corner.

Yeah, and the pilgrims were friends to the Native Americans.
Abolitionism in the North has leagued itself with Radical Democracy, and so the Slave Power was forced to ally itself with the Money Power; that is the great fact of the age.




The triumph of the Democracy is essential to the struggle of popular liberty


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Postby Farnhamia » Sun Nov 17, 2019 3:09 pm

Kowani wrote:
Nakena wrote:
Yes. Communism.

You know, your friendo Jeff Bezos lurking behind every corner.

Yeah, and the pilgrims were friends to the Native Americans.

They kind of were, at the beginning. It was really the Puritans and all the other who came after them that caused problems.

But we digress.
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Postby Kowani » Sun Nov 17, 2019 3:16 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Kowani wrote:Yeah, and the pilgrims were friends to the Native Americans.

They kind of were, at the beginning. It was really the Puritans and all the other who came after them that caused problems.

They fought with the very first Indians they met, and then gave them the plague. What are you talking about.
Abolitionism in the North has leagued itself with Radical Democracy, and so the Slave Power was forced to ally itself with the Money Power; that is the great fact of the age.




The triumph of the Democracy is essential to the struggle of popular liberty


Currently Rehabilitating: Martin Van Buren, Benjamin Harrison, and Woodrow Wilson
Currently Vilifying: George Washington, Theodore Roosevelt, and Jimmy Carter

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Postby Farnhamia » Sun Nov 17, 2019 3:21 pm

Kowani wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:They kind of were, at the beginning. It was really the Puritans and all the other who came after them that caused problems.

They fought with the very first Indians they met, and then gave them the plague. What are you talking about.

Oddly enough, it was the natives who first attacked the Pilgrims. Granted that the natives caught the plague from the colonists but it wasn't a deliberate act of inflicting a disease on people. The Pilgrims had little concept of disease or modern medicine.

Oh, and don't contradict me.
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Postby The Rich Port » Sun Nov 17, 2019 3:24 pm

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/201 ... d-dog.html

... Why is Trump still trying to impress Kim Jong Un.

You broke up with him, Donald. It's over. Get over it.

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Postby Ifreann » Sun Nov 17, 2019 3:28 pm

Aureumterra wrote:Literally TDS

July sure was four months ago.

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Postby Kowani » Sun Nov 17, 2019 3:29 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Kowani wrote:They fought with the very first Indians they met, and then gave them the plague. What are you talking about.

Oddly enough, it was the natives who first attacked the Pilgrims. Granted that the natives caught the plague from the colonists but it wasn't a deliberate act of inflicting a disease on people. The Pilgrims had little concept of disease or modern medicine.

Oh, and don't contradict me.

That the natives were the ones who attacked the pilgrims does not undermine my point in the slightest-since it wasn’t predicated on behavior towards anyone, but rather, the relationship as a whole.
Abolitionism in the North has leagued itself with Radical Democracy, and so the Slave Power was forced to ally itself with the Money Power; that is the great fact of the age.




The triumph of the Democracy is essential to the struggle of popular liberty


Currently Rehabilitating: Martin Van Buren, Benjamin Harrison, and Woodrow Wilson
Currently Vilifying: George Washington, Theodore Roosevelt, and Jimmy Carter

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Postby Aureumterra » Sun Nov 17, 2019 3:34 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Aureumterra wrote:Literally TDS

July sure was four months ago.

The simple fact that people are so obsessed over hating a single person that they stop doing everyday activities is pretty alarming to me
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Postby Bear Stearns » Sun Nov 17, 2019 3:41 pm

Aureumterra wrote:
Ifreann wrote:July sure was four months ago.

The simple fact that people are so obsessed over hating a single person that they stop doing everyday activities is pretty alarming to me


I'm old enough to remember the early 2000s. I thought the Bush hatred was retarded (and I'm no fan of Bush). People literally thought he was Hitler and was going to make America a fundamentalist Christian theocracy.

Trump hatred dwarfs that, and compared to Bush, Trump's pretty decent.
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