MAGAThread XVII: All Things NOT Impeachment

[Gormwood]

This time though they can't outright say it or Donnie gonna get triggered.

Pssst, everything triggers Donnie. They may as well say anything for the lols.

Donnie getting triggered means the Republicans get primaried by the MAGAForce.

[Crockerland]

It is.

What did Trump do that was impeachable?

Nothing yet, but are we just gonna stand around and let him stay president until he does?!

[Fartsniffage]

So has the pro-Trump narrative moved beyond "There was no quid pro quo and even if there was that isn't illegal and if it was illegal then it's not applicable to the President because reasons"?

Trump: "I want you to investigate possible corruption of a former member of our government."
Democrats: "QUID PRO QUO!! CORRUPTION!!"

Honestly people, if you want to investigate Trump go ahead. Let us investigate Biden. I want transparency everywhere, regardless of political affiliation.

Trump has the power through the AG to order an investigation into the Bidens. Why hasn't he?

[The East Marches II]

Trump: "I want you to investigate possible corruption of a former member of our government."
Democrats: "QUID PRO QUO!! CORRUPTION!!"

Honestly people, if you want to investigate Trump go ahead. Let us investigate Biden. I want transparency everywhere, regardless of political affiliation.

Trump has the power through the AG to order an investigation into the Bidens. Why hasn't he?

Knock on wood for me

[Eric Ciaramella]

Trump: "I want you to investigate possible corruption of a former member of our government."
Democrats: "QUID PRO QUO!! CORRUPTION!!"

Not how to do that.

Honestly people, if you want to investigate Trump go ahead. Let us investigate Biden. I want transparency everywhere, regardless of political affiliation.

No part of Biden's involvement is obscured.

Indeed. We already know there was corruption there: "If that guy isn't fired by the time I get on that plane, you aren't getting the money."

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Pssst, everything triggers Donnie. They may as well say anything for the lols.

Donnie getting triggered means the Republicans get primaried by the MAGAForce.

I’ll be honest. I don’t know which band is funnier when triggered anymore. This ride has been a clusterfuck since 2016. At this point, all I can do is eat pop corn, sparkling water and laugh.

[The East Marches II]

Donnie getting triggered means the Republicans get primaried by the MAGAForce.

I’ll be honest. I don’t know which band is funnier when triggered anymore. This ride has been a clusterfuck since 2016. At this point, all I can do is eat pop corn, sparkling water and laugh.

Based and redpilled

[Gormwood]

Trump: "I want you to investigate possible corruption of a former member of our government."
Democrats: "QUID PRO QUO!! CORRUPTION!!"

Honestly people, if you want to investigate Trump go ahead. Let us investigate Biden. I want transparency everywhere, regardless of political affiliation.

Trump has the power through the AG to order an investigation into the Bidens. Why hasn't he?

It's almost as if he's more interested in kneecapping Biden's candidacy than actually cracking down on corruption. Which given how Biden is doing so far looks like another disastrous waste of money on Trump's part.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

I’ll be honest. I don’t know which band is funnier when triggered anymore. This ride has been a clusterfuck since 2016. At this point, all I can do is eat pop corn, sparkling water and laugh.

Based and redpilled

Don’t make me put on my clown wig. I have to wash it.

[Eric Ciaramella]

Donnie getting triggered means the Republicans get primaried by the MAGAForce.

I’ll be honest. I don’t know which band is funnier when triggered anymore. This ride has been a clusterfuck since 2016. At this point, all I can do is eat pop corn, sparkling water and laugh.

You, sir, are amazing.

[The East Marches II]

Trump has the power through the AG to order an investigation into the Bidens. Why hasn't he?

It's almost as if he's more interested in kneecapping Biden's candidacy than actually cracking down on corruption. Which given how Biden is doing so far looks like another disastrous waste of money on Trump's part.

MULTIPLE BTFOS IN PROGRESS

[Zurkerx]

So has the pro-Trump narrative moved beyond "There was no quid pro quo and even if there was that isn't illegal and if it was illegal then it's not applicable to the President because reasons"?

Trump: "I want you to investigate possible corruption of a former member of our government."
Democrats: "QUID PRO QUO!! CORRUPTION!!"

Honestly people, if you want to investigate Trump go ahead. Let us investigate Biden. I want transparency everywhere, regardless of political affiliation.

Soliciting a foreign government to get dirt on a political opponent is illegal: The FEC says so:

§ 30121. Contributions and donations by foreign nationals
(a) Prohibition. It shall be unlawful for—
(1) a foreign national, directly or indirectly, to make—
(A) a contribution or donation of money or other thing
of value, or to make an express or implied promise to make a
contribution or donation, in connection with a Federal, State, or
local election;
(B) a contribution or donation to a committee of a political party; or
(C) an expenditure, independent expenditure, or disbursement for an electioneering communication (within the
meaning of section 30104(f)(3) of this title); or
(2) a person to solicit, accept, or receive a contribution or donation described in subparagraph (A) or (B) of paragraph (1) from a
foreign national.
(b) As used in this section, the term “foreign national” means—
(1) a foreign principal, as such term is defined by section
611(b) of title 22,²⁴ except that the term “foreign national” shall not
include any individual who is a citizen of the United States; or
(2) an individual who is not a citizen of the United States or a
national of the United States (as defined in section 101(a)(22) of the
Immigration and Nationality Act) and who is not lawfully admitted for
permanent residence, as defined by section 1101(a)(20) of title 8.²⁵

Foot notes:

24: 22 U.S.C. § 611(b) provides:
“(b) The term “foreign principal” includes—
(1) a government of a foreign country and a foreign political party;
(2) a person outside of the United States, unless it is established that such person is an individual and
a citizen of and domiciled within the United States, or that such person is not an individual and is
organized under or created by the laws of the United States or of any State or other place subject to the
jurisdiction of the United States and has its principal place of business within the United States; and
(3) a partnership, association, corporation, organization, or other combination of persons organized
under the laws of or having its principal place of business in a foreign country.”

25: 8 U.S.C. § 1101(a)(20) provides: “(20) The term lawfully admitted for permanent residence means the
status of having been lawfully accorded the privilege of residing permanently in the United States as an
immigrant in accordance with the immigration laws, such status not having changed.”

[Eric Ciaramella]

Trump: "I want you to investigate possible corruption of a former member of our government."
Democrats: "QUID PRO QUO!! CORRUPTION!!"

Honestly people, if you want to investigate Trump go ahead. Let us investigate Biden. I want transparency everywhere, regardless of political affiliation.

Soliciting a foreign government to get dirt on a political opponent is illegal: The FEC says so:

§ 30121. Contributions and donations by foreign nationals
(a) Prohibition. It shall be unlawful for—
(1) a foreign national, directly or indirectly, to make—
(A) a contribution or donation of money or other thing
of value, or to make an express or implied promise to make a
contribution or donation, in connection with a Federal, State, or
local election;
(B) a contribution or donation to a committee of a political party; or
(C) an expenditure, independent expenditure, or disbursement for an electioneering communication (within the
meaning of section 30104(f)(3) of this title); or
(2) a person to solicit, accept, or receive a contribution or donation described in subparagraph (A) or (B) of paragraph (1) from a
foreign national.
(b) As used in this section, the term “foreign national” means—
(1) a foreign principal, as such term is defined by section
611(b) of title 22,²⁴ except that the term “foreign national” shall not
include any individual who is a citizen of the United States; or
(2) an individual who is not a citizen of the United States or a
national of the United States (as defined in section 101(a)(22) of the
Immigration and Nationality Act) and who is not lawfully admitted for
permanent residence, as defined by section 1101(a)(20) of title 8.²⁵

Foot notes:

24: 22 U.S.C. § 611(b) provides:
“(b) The term “foreign principal” includes—
(1) a government of a foreign country and a foreign political party;
(2) a person outside of the United States, unless it is established that such person is an individual and
a citizen of and domiciled within the United States, or that such person is not an individual and is
organized under or created by the laws of the United States or of any State or other place subject to the
jurisdiction of the United States and has its principal place of business within the United States; and
(3) a partnership, association, corporation, organization, or other combination of persons organized
under the laws of or having its principal place of business in a foreign country.”

25: 8 U.S.C. § 1101(a)(20) provides: “(20) The term lawfully admitted for permanent residence means the
status of having been lawfully accorded the privilege of residing permanently in the United States as an
immigrant in accordance with the immigration laws, such status not having changed.”

So you can't investigate corruption if you might benefit politically. Got it.

Edit: Also, Biden is clearly in violation of this law. This is literally what he did. He asked a Ukraine official to halt the investigation of the company his son was working at and directly profited from it. How is that not corrupt? How does that not warrant investigation?

[Gormwood]

Not how to do that.

No part of Biden's involvement is obscured.

Indeed. We already know there was corruption there: "If that guy isn't fired by the time I get on that plane, you aren't getting the money."

The guy who was sitting on his ass on investigating corruption, especially in Burisma (the oil company Hunter Biden was a board member on). So you're saying Joe Biden was trying to cover up Hunter's corruption by trying to get the guy doing nothing to investigate possible corruption of the company Hunter Biden was a board member on fired so that the investigation could proceed?

[Fartsniffage]

Soliciting a foreign government to get dirt on a political opponent is illegal: The FEC says so:

§ 30121. Contributions and donations by foreign nationals
(a) Prohibition. It shall be unlawful for—
(1) a foreign national, directly or indirectly, to make—
(A) a contribution or donation of money or other thing
of value, or to make an express or implied promise to make a
contribution or donation, in connection with a Federal, State, or
local election;
(B) a contribution or donation to a committee of a political party; or
(C) an expenditure, independent expenditure, or disbursement for an electioneering communication (within the
meaning of section 30104(f)(3) of this title); or
(2) a person to solicit, accept, or receive a contribution or donation described in subparagraph (A) or (B) of paragraph (1) from a
foreign national.
(b) As used in this section, the term “foreign national” means—
(1) a foreign principal, as such term is defined by section
611(b) of title 22,²⁴ except that the term “foreign national” shall not
include any individual who is a citizen of the United States; or
(2) an individual who is not a citizen of the United States or a
national of the United States (as defined in section 101(a)(22) of the
Immigration and Nationality Act) and who is not lawfully admitted for
permanent residence, as defined by section 1101(a)(20) of title 8.²⁵

Foot notes:

24: 22 U.S.C. § 611(b) provides:
“(b) The term “foreign principal” includes—
(1) a government of a foreign country and a foreign political party;
(2) a person outside of the United States, unless it is established that such person is an individual and
a citizen of and domiciled within the United States, or that such person is not an individual and is
organized under or created by the laws of the United States or of any State or other place subject to the
jurisdiction of the United States and has its principal place of business within the United States; and
(3) a partnership, association, corporation, organization, or other combination of persons organized
under the laws of or having its principal place of business in a foreign country.”

25: 8 U.S.C. § 1101(a)(20) provides: “(20) The term lawfully admitted for permanent residence means the
status of having been lawfully accorded the privilege of residing permanently in the United States as an
immigrant in accordance with the immigration laws, such status not having changed.”

So you can't investigate corruption if you might benefit politically. Got it.

He can order the US government to investigate it. He can't ask a foreign government to investigate it.

If the US government needs help in their investigation then there are channels they can follow to request assistance from a foreign government.

This is all very simple.

[The East Marches II]

Soliciting a foreign government to get dirt on a political opponent is illegal: The FEC says so:

§ 30121. Contributions and donations by foreign nationals
(a) Prohibition. It shall be unlawful for—
(1) a foreign national, directly or indirectly, to make—
(A) a contribution or donation of money or other thing
of value, or to make an express or implied promise to make a
contribution or donation, in connection with a Federal, State, or
local election;
(B) a contribution or donation to a committee of a political party; or
(C) an expenditure, independent expenditure, or disbursement for an electioneering communication (within the
meaning of section 30104(f)(3) of this title); or
(2) a person to solicit, accept, or receive a contribution or donation described in subparagraph (A) or (B) of paragraph (1) from a
foreign national.
(b) As used in this section, the term “foreign national” means—
(1) a foreign principal, as such term is defined by section
611(b) of title 22,²⁴ except that the term “foreign national” shall not
include any individual who is a citizen of the United States; or
(2) an individual who is not a citizen of the United States or a
national of the United States (as defined in section 101(a)(22) of the
Immigration and Nationality Act) and who is not lawfully admitted for
permanent residence, as defined by section 1101(a)(20) of title 8.²⁵

Foot notes:

24: 22 U.S.C. § 611(b) provides:
“(b) The term “foreign principal” includes—
(1) a government of a foreign country and a foreign political party;
(2) a person outside of the United States, unless it is established that such person is an individual and
a citizen of and domiciled within the United States, or that such person is not an individual and is
organized under or created by the laws of the United States or of any State or other place subject to the
jurisdiction of the United States and has its principal place of business within the United States; and
(3) a partnership, association, corporation, organization, or other combination of persons organized
under the laws of or having its principal place of business in a foreign country.”

25: 8 U.S.C. § 1101(a)(20) provides: “(20) The term lawfully admitted for permanent residence means the
status of having been lawfully accorded the privilege of residing permanently in the United States as an
immigrant in accordance with the immigration laws, such status not having changed.”

So you can't investigate corruption if you might benefit politically. Got it.

brb running for office for unrelated reasons.

[Fartsniffage]

Edit: Also, Biden is clearly in violation of this law. This is literally what he did. He asked a Ukraine official to halt the investigation of the company his son was working at and directly profited from it. How is that not corrupt? How does that not warrant investigation?

Stop lying dude, it doesn't look good.

[Eric Ciaramella]

Indeed. We already know there was corruption there: "If that guy isn't fired by the time I get on that plane, you aren't getting the money."

The guy who was sitting on his ass on investigating corruption, especially in Burisma (the oil company Hunter Biden was a board member on). So you're saying Joe Biden was trying to cover up Hunter's corruption by trying to get the guy doing nothing to investigate possible corruption of the company Hunter Biden was a board member on fired so that the investigation could proceed?

Dude, that's not what happened. If the guy was doing nothing Joe Biden would have just ignored it. He got involved because he didn't want his son to be investigated. Why else would he want the guy fired?

[Fartsniffage]

The guy who was sitting on his ass on investigating corruption, especially in Burisma (the oil company Hunter Biden was a board member on). So you're saying Joe Biden was trying to cover up Hunter's corruption by trying to get the guy doing nothing to investigate possible corruption of the company Hunter Biden was a board member on fired so that the investigation could proceed?

Dude, that's not what happened. If the guy was doing nothing Joe Biden would have just ignored it. He got involved because he didn't want his son to be investigated. Why else would he want the guy fired?

The whole Western world wanted the guy fired. Because he wasn't investigating corruption in Ukraine. Biden was relaying a message from Obama that was fully supported by the EU. Those are the facts.

[Spirit of Hope]

Not how to do that.

No part of Biden's involvement is obscured.

Indeed. We already know there was corruption there: "If that guy isn't fired by the time I get on that plane, you aren't getting the money."

It's hard to call the firing of corrupt prosecutor corruption, especially when fighting corruption in Ukraine as a whole is part of your administration's policy, backed by multiple nations and NGOs. I mean the information that Biden did this has been out their for years, if there was any concern about it being a corrupt move, why hasn't the justice department opened an investigation and asked for Ukraines cooperation in the normal manner?

[Eric Ciaramella]

Edit: Also, Biden is clearly in violation of this law. This is literally what he did. He asked a Ukraine official to halt the investigation of the company his son was working at and directly profited from it. How is that not corrupt? How does that not warrant investigation?

Stop lying dude, it doesn't look good.

Stop defending corrupt politicians. I want to know what Trump is up to as bad as you.

[Gormwood]

The guy who was sitting on his ass on investigating corruption, especially in Burisma (the oil company Hunter Biden was a board member on). So you're saying Joe Biden was trying to cover up Hunter's corruption by trying to get the guy doing nothing to investigate possible corruption of the company Hunter Biden was a board member on fired so that the investigation could proceed?

(Image)

Dude, that's not what happened. If the guy was doing nothing Joe Biden would have just ignored it. He got involved because he didn't want his son to be investigated. Why else would he want the guy fired?

"If I get the company Hunter is a board member on investigated then they won't investigate Hunter."

You missed out on a career in law enforcement.

[Fartsniffage]

Stop lying dude, it doesn't look good.

Stop defending corrupt politicians. I want to know what Trump is up to as bad as you.

Hahahaha

[Eric Ciaramella]

Dude, that's not what happened. If the guy was doing nothing Joe Biden would have just ignored it. He got involved because he didn't want his son to be investigated. Why else would he want the guy fired?

The whole Western world wanted the guy fired. Because he wasn't investigating corruption in Ukraine. Biden was relaying a message from Obama that was fully supported by the EU. Those are the facts.

So Biden called to tell them to fire the investigator who was not investigating his son's company for corruption, so that his son wouldn't get the millions of dollars he got because the investigation immediately died and nothing was uncovered. Very...likely... story. How are you not seeing the corruption in this? Or at least the conflict of interest?

[Eric Ciaramella]

Dude, that's not what happened. If the guy was doing nothing Joe Biden would have just ignored it. He got involved because he didn't want his son to be investigated. Why else would he want the guy fired?

"If I get the company Hunter is a board member on investigated then they won't investigate Hunter."

You missed out on a career in law enforcement.

Stop gaslighting. You are reversing the story. Or parroting a distorted version someone told you.