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Professor Irwin Corey wrote:

Gormwood wrote:He assumes anyone who doesn't worship Trump as the Messiah is a partisan leftist Democrat trying to overthrow him.

He does seem to try harder and harder to be the personification of it. Heck. Sometimes I wonder if someone's paying him.

Just like the Democrats and never Trumpers worship the Democrats, their is no difference, it does work both ways. Please excuse my so called pun.

Zurkerx wrote:Trump says White House will release transcript of another call with Ukraine 'probably' on Tuesday.

So, this call would have taken place in April so I don't see that much significance to this other than him trying to distract from the issue; he's likely trying to demonstrate that this call will prove that the one in July means nothing and we're all full of shit believing he ever do a Quid Pro Quo to benefit his campaign, despite the witnesses testifying there was one. This comes as the State Department Freed Ukraine Money Before Trump Says He Did.

His crew is probably trying to cherry pick calls to create yet another false narrative over this extortion/bribe attempt involving the Ukrainian President and the $293 million in congress authorized aid.

Greater Miami Shores wrote:

Professor Irwin Corey wrote:
He does seem to try harder and harder to be the personification of it. Heck. Sometimes I wonder if someone's paying him.

Just like the Democrats and never Trumpers worship the Democrats, their is no difference, it does work both ways. Please excuse my so called pun.

Whataboutism is not an argument.

Professor Irwin Corey wrote:

Zurkerx wrote:Trump says White House will release transcript of another call with Ukraine 'probably' on Tuesday.

So, this call would have taken place in April so I don't see that much significance to this other than him trying to distract from the issue; he's likely trying to demonstrate that this call will prove that the one in July means nothing and we're all full of shit believing he ever do a Quid Pro Quo to benefit his campaign, despite the witnesses testifying there was one. This comes as the State Department Freed Ukraine Money Before Trump Says He Did.

His crew is probably trying to cherry pick calls to create yet another false narrative over this extortion/bribe attempt involving the Ukrainian President and the $293 million in congress authorized aid.

The Democrats crew, is trying to cherry pick information to create yet another false narrative over this so called extortion/bribe attempt involving the Ukrainian President and the $293 million in aid.

Professor Irwin Corey wrote:

Gormwood wrote:He assumes anyone who doesn't worship Trump as the Messiah is a partisan leftist Democrat trying to overthrow him.

He does seem to try harder and harder to be the personification of it. Heck. Sometimes I wonder if someone's paying him.

No one is paying $ me for supporting and defending President Trump and the Republicans darn.

US Republicans have to defend President Trump against the Democrats, Never Trumpers and anti Trumpers, and I am not even getting paid $ for it, darn again.

Professor Irwin Corey wrote:

Greater Miami Shores wrote:Just like the Democrats and never Trumpers worship the Democrats, their is no difference, it does work both ways. Please excuse my so called pun.

Whataboutism is not an argument.

No whataboutism about it, true equivalence.

Greater Miami Shores wrote:

Professor Irwin Corey wrote:
His crew is probably trying to cherry pick calls to create yet another false narrative over this extortion/bribe attempt involving the Ukrainian President and the $293 million in congress authorized aid.

The Democrats crew, is trying to cherry pick information to create yet another false narrative over this so called extortion/bribe attempt involving the Ukrainian President and the $293 million in aid.

Your Pee Wee Herman style Whataboutism isn't an argument either. Beyond that, do you realize how utterly ridiculous you sound?

Professor Irwin Corey wrote:

Greater Miami Shores wrote:The Democrats crew, is trying to cherry pick information to create yet another false narrative over this so called extortion/bribe attempt involving the Ukrainian President and the $293 million in aid.

Your Pee Wee Herman style Whataboutism isn't an argument either. Beyond that, do you realize how utterly ridiculous you sound?

Obviously not.

Professor Irwin Corey wrote:

Greater Miami Shores wrote:The Democrats crew, is trying to cherry pick information to create yet another false narrative over this so called extortion/bribe attempt involving the Ukrainian President and the $293 million in aid.

Your Pee Wee Herman style Whataboutism isn't an argument either. Beyond that, do you realize how utterly ridiculous you sound?

No I am right. Republicans have their base, Democrats have their base. Republicans support Republicans. Democrats support Democrats. Their is no difference. Therefore no whataboutism, therefore true equivalence, no false equivalence as it has been used against me on this thread several times by certain nations, who disagree with me politically on President Trump and the Republicans. I rest my case again.

Greater Miami Shores wrote:

Professor Irwin Corey wrote:
Your Pee Wee Herman style Whataboutism isn't an argument either. Beyond that, do you realize how utterly ridiculous you sound?

No I am right. Republicans have their base, Democrats have their base. Republicans support Republicans. Democrats support Democrats. Their is no difference. Therefore no whataboutism, therefore true equivalence, no false equivalence as it has been used against me on this thread several times by certain nations, who disagree with me politically on President Trump and the Republicans. I rest my case again.

I am not sure you know what whataboutism is.

Gormwood wrote:

Professor Irwin Corey wrote:
Your Pee Wee Herman style Whataboutism isn't an argument either. Beyond that, do you realize how utterly ridiculous you sound?

Obviously not.

Thank you Gormwood for agreeing with me, and I hate Pee Wee Herman, I almost did not quote you blah.

Neutraligon wrote:

Greater Miami Shores wrote:No I am right. Republicans have their base, Democrats have their base. Republicans support Republicans. Democrats support Democrats. Their is no difference. Therefore no whataboutism, therefore true equivalence, no false equivalence as it has been used against me on this thread several times by certain nations, who disagree with me politically on President Trump and the Republicans. I rest my case again.

I am not sure you know what whataboutism is.

I'll second that motion.

Greater Miami Shores wrote:

Professor Irwin Corey wrote:
Your Pee Wee Herman style Whataboutism isn't an argument either. Beyond that, do you realize how utterly ridiculous you sound?

No I am right. Republicans have their base, Democrats have their base. Republicans support Republicans. Democrats support Democrats. Their is no difference. Therefore no whataboutism, therefore true equivalence, no false equivalence as it has been used against me on this thread several times by certain nations, who disagree with me politically on President Trump and the Republicans. I rest my case again.

Do you any evidence that all witnesses that have testified committed perjury as well as the ones who have yet to do so?

Professor Irwin Corey wrote:

Neutraligon wrote:I am not sure you know what whataboutism is.

I'll second that motion.

Thirded.

Perhaps you could just agree to disagree?

Neutraligon wrote:

Greater Miami Shores wrote:No I am right. Republicans have their base, Democrats have their base. Republicans support Republicans. Democrats support Democrats. Their is no difference. Therefore no whataboutism, therefore true equivalence, no false equivalence as it has been used against me on this thread several times by certain nations, who disagree with me politically on President Trump and the Republicans. I rest my case again.

I am not sure you know what whataboutism is.

I do know what it is, I even looked it up to refresh my knowledge of it.
This post of mine proves my point:
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But I am not surprised that Democrats, never Trumpers, anti Trumpers and independent anti Trumpers don't agree with me and the Republicans on this particular post and statement of mine in context, which proves my point.

Nakena wrote:Perhaps you could just agree to disagree?

Thank you my Friend lol. I know I can always count on you to defend me.

Greater Miami Shores wrote:

Neutraligon wrote:I am not sure you know what whataboutism is.

I do know what it is, I even looked it up to refresh my knowledge of it.
This post of mine proves my point:
viewtopic.php?p=36418132#p36418132
But I am not surprised that Democrats, never Trumpers, anti Trumpers and independent anti Trumpers don't agree with me and the Republicans on this particular post and statement of mine in context, which proves my point.

That is the post that made me think you do not know what it means. D you mind telling us what you think it means?

Nakena wrote:Perhaps you could just agree to disagree?

On Pee Wee Herman?

Neutraligon wrote:

Greater Miami Shores wrote:I do know what it is, I even looked it up to refresh my knowledge of it.
This post of mine proves my point:
viewtopic.php?p=36418132#p36418132
But I am not surprised that Democrats, never Trumpers, anti Trumpers and independent anti Trumpers don't agree with me and the Republicans on this particular post and statement of mine in context, which proves my point.

That is the post that made me think you do not know what it means. D you mind telling us what you think it means?

Here is my post in full context:
No I am right. Republicans have their base, Democrats have their base. Republicans support Republicans. Democrats support Democrats. Their is no difference. Therefore no whataboutism, therefore true equivalence, no false equivalence as it has been used against me on this thread several times by certain nations, who disagree with me politically on President Trump and the Republicans. I rest my case again.

Republicans have their hard core base, Democrats have their hard core base, lets be honest about it, lets not deny it. I rest my case again.

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Hey, remember when the Republican party was the party holding veterans high and...

Among Mr. Trump’s admissions in court papers: The charity gave his campaign complete control over disbursing the $2.8 million that the foundation had raised at a fund-raiser for veterans in Iowa in January 2016, only days before the state’s presidential nominating caucuses. The fund-raiser, he acknowledged, was in fact a campaign event.

Trump Ordered to Pay $2 Million to Charities for Misuse of Foundation

The president admitted he had used funds raised by the Donald J. Trump Foundation to promote his campaign and pay business debts.

This is Trump formally admitting to illegally misdirecting charitable funds from an event he claimed was a benefit for veterans.

Surely this is on par with the disrespect Obama showed to the armed forces when he asked a marine to hold an umbrella for him?

Gravlen wrote:Hey, remember when the Republican party was the party holding veterans high and...

Among Mr. Trump’s admissions in court papers: The charity gave his campaign complete control over disbursing the $2.8 million that the foundation had raised at a fund-raiser for veterans in Iowa in January 2016, only days before the state’s presidential nominating caucuses. The fund-raiser, he acknowledged, was in fact a campaign event.

Trump Ordered to Pay $2 Million to Charities for Misuse of Foundation

The president admitted he had used funds raised by the Donald J. Trump Foundation to promote his campaign and pay business debts.

This is Trump formally admitting to illegally misdirecting charitable funds from an event he claimed was a benefit for veterans.

Surely this is on par with the disrespect Obama showed to the armed forces when he asked a marine to hold an umbrella for him?

Obviously not. *nod*

Gravlen wrote:Hey, remember when the Republican party was the party holding veterans high and...

Among Mr. Trump’s admissions in court papers: The charity gave his campaign complete control over disbursing the $2.8 million that the foundation had raised at a fund-raiser for veterans in Iowa in January 2016, only days before the state’s presidential nominating caucuses. The fund-raiser, he acknowledged, was in fact a campaign event.

Trump Ordered to Pay $2 Million to Charities for Misuse of Foundation

The president admitted he had used funds raised by the Donald J. Trump Foundation to promote his campaign and pay business debts.

This is Trump formally admitting to illegally misdirecting charitable funds from an event he claimed was a benefit for veterans.

Surely this is on par with the disrespect Obama showed to the armed forces when he asked a marine to hold an umbrella for him?

Republicans and Democrats do it too, and it is wrong on both sides, true equivalence, not false equivalence even if the sum if much smaller:

Source Politico:
Obama 2008 campaign fined $375,000

President Barack Obama’s 2008 campaign was fined $375,000 by the Federal Election Commission for campaign reporting violations — one of the largest fees ever levied against a presidential campaign, POLITICO has learned.

The fine — laid out in detail in FEC documents that have yet to be made public — arose from an audit of the campaign, which was published in April. POLITICO obtained a copy of the conciliation agreement detailing the fine, which was sent to Sean Cairncross, the chief lawyer for the Republican National Committee, one of the groups that filed complaints about the campaign’s FEC reporting from 2008.

Here is the Link to Poltico
https://www.politico.com/story/2013/01/ ... 000-085784

I rest my case again.

Gravlen wrote:Hey, remember when the Republican party was the party holding veterans high and...

Among Mr. Trump’s admissions in court papers: The charity gave his campaign complete control over disbursing the $2.8 million that the foundation had raised at a fund-raiser for veterans in Iowa in January 2016, only days before the state’s presidential nominating caucuses. The fund-raiser, he acknowledged, was in fact a campaign event.

Trump Ordered to Pay $2 Million to Charities for Misuse of Foundation

The president admitted he had used funds raised by the Donald J. Trump Foundation to promote his campaign and pay business debts.

This is Trump formally admitting to illegally misdirecting charitable funds from an event he claimed was a benefit for veterans.

Surely this is on par with the disrespect Obama showed to the armed forces when he asked a marine to hold an umbrella for him?

Oh yeah. Weren't they also the party of the Moral Majority sporting strict adherence to the Ten Commandments until Ronald Reagan added the Eleventh Commandment?

However, the addition of the Eleventh caused the rescinding of "Thou shalt not Lie" and "Thou shall not steal" leaving us with just nine and now perhaps even less.

Reagan creating a false commandment was an impersonation of God. "Thou shall not have any false Gods before me." We lost that one too. In recent times we have Donald Trump and Stormy Daniels doing adultery while Melania is pregnant.

It's no wonder everything has gone to hell.

Greater Miami Shores wrote:

Neutraligon wrote:That is the post that made me think you do not know what it means. D you mind telling us what you think it means?

Here is my post in full context:
No I am right. Republicans have their base, Democrats have their base. Republicans support Republicans. Democrats support Democrats. Their is no difference. Therefore no whataboutism, therefore true equivalence, no false equivalence as it has been used against me on this thread several times by certain nations, who disagree with me politically on President Trump and the Republicans. I rest my case again.

Republicans have their hard core base, Democrats have their hard core base, lets be honest about it, lets not deny it. I rest my case again.

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I read the whole context, I am still certain that you do not know what it means, hence me asking you what you think it means.