MAGAThread XVII: All Things NOT Impeachment

[Neutraligon]

Yes mom....oh wait you don’t mean me!

*happy dance*

Good joke Black Forest lol.

What I have noticed on all your leftists posts is you all agree with each other on President Trump bad. You all discuss the issue from the perspective that President Trump is guilty as charged, tried and convicted by the Democrats. From your Political Perspectives their is nothing wrong with that.

Actually, this is incorrect from what I have seen. Instead many posters have repeatedly pointed out to you that they support the investigation or that the investigation is ongoing. In fact...it is you who have been acting like the investigation is over, and hence nothing has been proven (which, you know would require not only the investigation being over, but also the entire impeachment process).

[The Black Forrest]

Good joke Black Forest lol.

What I have noticed on all your leftists posts is you all agree with each other on President Trump bad. You all discuss the issue from the perspective that President Trump is guilty as charged, tried and convicted by the Democrats. From your Political Perspectives their is nothing wrong with that.

Actually, this is incorrect from what I have seen. Instead many posters have repeatedly pointed out to you that they support the investigation or that the investigation is ongoing.

Indeed.

Some of us think he is guilty as hell and are waiting to see what the investigation will produce.

Trump is his own worst enemy. He is under the delusion he can talk his way out of anything. It may work with his fan base who tend to not question anything he says. Poltics in general? Not so much.

[True Refuge]

The mental gymnastics required to victim-blame the Democrats for Iran-Contra is astonishing.

Secretly going against the will of a democratically elected government to achieve goals without popular support is about as undemocratic as you can get without declaring the end of American democracy. Doesn’t matter who Iran-Contra stopped. It undermined the checks and balances of the American government.

I hope you see and read this post. I am not making any of this up, you can agree with me or disagree with me, and their is nothing wrong with that.

I will post about this on my US Cuban Embargo thread eventually.

True Refuge Please take my word for it based on Personal experience you would have liked to live in Sandinista communist socialist Nicaragua or Cuba as an average Nicaraguan citizen or as an average Cuban citizen.

Just because they so called have free education and health care. You must have seen my posts on my Cuba threads, but perhaps not. Nothing is really free of charge in this world.

A few years ago, I read an article on Granma the legally registered independent non governmental news organization of the legally registered independent non governmental communist party of Cuba lol, this deserves a lol in this case.

Stating the Compañero Comrades of today don't understand the reasons for the lower wages is because of the triumphs of the revolution, free education and health care and the evil economic embargo blockade, despite the Cuban regime trading with almost all nations of the world and receiving at least 4 million foreign tourists per year with hard currency money.

Cuban Americans and Cubans all over the world send family remittances and care packages to their families in Cuba, including food, goods, medicines and even toilet paper. Because the Cuban regime does not provide enough for the Cuban people. I remember in Cuba eating water mixed with Brown Sugar for breakfast every day for a long time. I was lucky I did not get any parasites.

My guy Cuban cousin the one I have posted about many times that emigrated to Miami and the USA the right way. who told me be careful what you say about our family in Cuba, because if the Cuban government finds out who you are, they can make life hell for our family in Cuba, when I showed him and told him all about NS which we all love. My cousin did not have to tell me that, but it is good he reminded me.

He was an architect in Cuba for the Cuban Government. He had to work for the Cuban government for x numbers of years at a lower wage to repay the Cuban revolution for his so called free education. Most Americans and Foreigners don't know this. I am not making any of this up.

It doesn’t matter why it was done. What matters is that Reagan’s administration undermined and bypassed the powers of Congress.

You should respond to Farnhamia’s response. The administration basically spat in the face of Congress to achieve their goals. That is not acceptable.

[Greater Miami Shores]

Good joke Black Forest lol.

What I have noticed on all your leftists posts is you all agree with each other on President Trump bad. You all discuss the issue from the perspective that President Trump is guilty as charged, tried and convicted by the Democrats. From your Political Perspectives their is nothing wrong with that.

Actually, this is incorrect from what I have seen. Instead many posters have repeatedly pointed out to you that they support the investigation or that the investigation is ongoing.

I really am trying now. But I am under no illusions that I will change anyone's mind about Trump.

But the Problem is you know my reasons and my views on the motivations of the investigations. I really do believe them, I am not making this up. As a Republican I can assure you millions of us believe this. But I am the most vocal about it and the only one vocal about it on NS. As I pointed out before to a fellow nation a long time ago in much nicer language than I usually use.

As I posted to Farnhamia, at least 99 % of the Posters on this thread are Democrats or Never Trumpers. No wonder we cant agree.

I finally understand what you Neutraligion and Farnhamia are saying to me, they don't like me using the prhrase B P D all the time and many of my canned responses all the time. I will knock it off. I might use it towards the end once pr so. But I will knock it off using those words.

Thank you both for your help, constructive suggestions and concerns, I really do know you guys are trying to help me out, no B S.

Thanks Dudes.

[Greater Miami Shores]

I hope you see and read this post. I am not making any of this up, you can agree with me or disagree with me, and their is nothing wrong with that.

I will post about this on my US Cuban Embargo thread eventually.

True Refuge Please take my word for it based on Personal experience you would have liked to live in Sandinista communist socialist Nicaragua or Cuba as an average Nicaraguan citizen or as an average Cuban citizen.

Just because they so called have free education and health care. You must have seen my posts on my Cuba threads, but perhaps not. Nothing is really free of charge in this world.

A few years ago, I read an article on Granma the legally registered independent non governmental news organization of the legally registered independent non governmental communist party of Cuba lol, this deserves a lol in this case.

Stating the Compañero Comrades of today don't understand the reasons for the lower wages is because of the triumphs of the revolution, free education and health care and the evil economic embargo blockade, despite the Cuban regime trading with almost all nations of the world and receiving at least 4 million foreign tourists per year with hard currency money.

Cuban Americans and Cubans all over the world send family remittances and care packages to their families in Cuba, including food, goods, medicines and even toilet paper. Because the Cuban regime does not provide enough for the Cuban people. I remember in Cuba eating water mixed with Brown Sugar for breakfast every day for a long time. I was lucky I did not get any parasites.

My guy Cuban cousin the one I have posted about many times that emigrated to Miami and the USA the right way. who told me be careful what you say about our family in Cuba, because if the Cuban government finds out who you are, they can make life hell for our family in Cuba, when I showed him and told him all about NS which we all love. My cousin did not have to tell me that, but it is good he reminded me.

He was an architect in Cuba for the Cuban Government. He had to work for the Cuban government for x numbers of years at a lower wage to repay the Cuban revolution for his so called free education. Most Americans and Foreigners don't know this. I am not making any of this up.

It doesn’t matter why it was done. What matters is that Reagan’s administration undermined and bypassed the powers of Congress.

You should respond to Farnhamia’s response. The administration basically spat in the face of Congress to achieve their goals. That is not acceptable.

I understand what you are saying True Refuge, Please try to understand it would have been a lot worse if Central America had become another Cuba. Republican President Ronald Reagan saved Central America from being much worse than today.

I would have to Post the same Posts above to Farnhamia as I have Posted to you.

[True Refuge]

It doesn’t matter why it was done. What matters is that Reagan’s administration undermined and bypassed the powers of Congress.

You should respond to Farnhamia’s response. The administration basically spat in the face of Congress to achieve their goals. That is not acceptable.

I understand what you are saying True Refuge, Please try to understand it would have been a lot worse if Central America had become another Cuba. Republican President Ronald Reagan saved Central America from being much worse than today.

I would have to Post the same Post to Farnhamia above on this Post as I have Posted to you.

Doesn’t matter. Reagan’s administration crossed the line. I would say the same thing about any other president of either side if they were caught in a similar scandal.

[Neutraligon]

Actually, this is incorrect from what I have seen. Instead many posters have repeatedly pointed out to you that they support the investigation or that the investigation is ongoing.

I really am trying now. But I am under no illusions that I will change anyone's mind about Trump.

Given your posting style turns people off this is correct. But this has nothing to do with the people on this thread being left r right and everything to do with you being unconvincing.

But the Problem is you know my reasons and my views on the motivations of the investigations. I really do believe them, I am not making this up. As a Republican I can assure you millions of us believe this. But I am the most vocal about it and the only one vocal about it on NS. As I pointed out before to a fellow nation a long time ago in much nicer language than I usually use.

The motive of the investigation is irrelevant. What matters is what is found. Your belief in the motives i also irrelevant to the evidence turned up. You need to respond to the evidence found; constantly saying bias to everything found, or claiming conspiracy does not o anything, particularly since then you would need to demonstrate the bias actually means anything, or that the conspiracy is real.As to the millions believing what you believe, this is also irrelevant to what is found in the investigation, truth is not dependent on anyone's opinion. You are indeed one of the most vocal...that is not necessarily a good thing given how you are the most vocal.

As I posted to Farnhamia, at least 99 % of the Posters on this thread are Democrats or Never Trumpers. No wonder we cant agree.

You base this statistic on...what exactly?

I finally understand what you Neutraligion and Farnhamia are saying to me, they don't like me using the prhrase B P D all the time and many of my canned responses all the time. I will knock it off. I might use it towards the end once pr so. But I will knock it off using those words.

The problem is not just the canned phrases, the problem is that you use them to deflect or to sidestep the things people bring up, over and over and over again. You use them as if they are a response, when they are not.

Thank you both for your help, constructive suggestions and concerns, I really do know you guys are trying to help me out, no B S.

Thanks Dudes.

I am. I want my opinions challenged, which is why I read and listen to news that disagrees with me.

[Greater Miami Shores]

I understand what you are saying True Refuge, Please try to understand it would have been a lot worse if Central America had become another Cuba. Republican President Ronald Reagan saved Central America from being much worse than today.

I would have to Post the same Post to Farnhamia above on this Post as I have Posted to you.

Doesn’t matter. Reagan’s administration crossed the line. I would say the same thing about any other president of other side if hey were caught in a similar scandal.

ok fair enough I your are more fair than I am. But the end result for Central Americas would be a lot worse, from my personal political perspective and my fellow Republicans, Please don't think I am the only who believes this. I can assure of this. Sorry but I am being very honest with you, on our different perspective on the issue.

[Gormwood]

A deliciously snarky analysis of Trump's Friday press conference, sprinkled with impressions of Ron Howard narrating Arrested Development.

The 40 wildest lines from Donald Trump's impromptu Friday press conference

5. "And all that matters is one thing: the transcript. And the transcript is perfect."

(Narrator voice) It isn't.

[Senkaku]

A deliciously snarky analysis of Trump's Friday press conference, sprinkled with impressions of Ron Howard narrating Arrested Development.

The 40 wildest lines from Donald Trump's impromptu Friday press conference

5. "And all that matters is one thing: the transcript. And the transcript is perfect."

(Narrator voice) It isn't.

it was funny till i remembered it's actually fucking real and then i downed my drink ;__;

tfw the only cause that might be worth serving for you in an otherwise meaningless universe is what your country could be and do if it tried but it's actively setting itself on the road towards self-destruction and evil

[Greater Miami Shores]

I really am trying now. But I am under no illusions that I will change anyone's mind about Trump.

Given your posting style turns people off this is correct. But this has nothing to do with the people on this thread being left r right and everything to do with you being unconvincing.

But the Problem is you know my reasons and my views on the motivations of the investigations. I really do believe them, I am not making this up. As a Republican I can assure you millions of us believe this. But I am the most vocal about it and the only one vocal about it on NS. As I pointed out before to a fellow nation a long time ago in much nicer language than I usually use.

The motive of the investigation is irrelevant. What matters is what is found. Your belief in the motives i also irrelevant to the evidence turned up. You need to respond to the evidence found; constantly saying bias to everything found, or claiming conspiracy does not o anything, particularly since then you would need to demonstrate the bias actually means anything, or that the conspiracy is real.As to the millions believing what you believe, this is also irrelevant to what is found in the investigation, truth is not dependent on anyone's opinion. You are indeed one of the most vocal...that is not necessarily a good thing given how you are the most vocal.

As I posted to Farnhamia, at least 99 % of the Posters on this thread are Democrats or Never Trumpers. No wonder we cant agree.

You base this statistic on...what exactly?

I finally understand what you Neutraligion and Farnhamia are saying to me, they don't like me using the prhrase B P D all the time and many of my canned responses all the time. I will knock it off. I might use it towards the end once pr so. But I will knock it off using those words.

The problem is not just the canned phrases, the problem is that you use them to deflect or to sidestep the things people bring up, over and over and over again. You use them as if they are a response, when they are not.

Thank you both for your help, constructive suggestions and concerns, I really do know you guys are trying to help me out, no B S.

Thanks Dudes.

I am. I want my opinions challenged, which is why I read and listen to news that disagrees with me.

I wish we could all be NS Friends and RP together, despite our politics and despite Trump.

To be very honest about it all.

I really am trying to change my style. I read the posts of the posters on this thread and about 99 % Percent believe President Trump is guilty. ok while that is an exaggeration, what I am saying is we are few and they are many. As I have pointed out they always say in one way or another I am wrong and they are right, their posts to me proves this point and they deny it. Gormwood's Post to me that I Posted on the Moderation thread, while he did not say anything he is not allowed to say to me, Proves my Point.

If I try to defend myself against this argument they clearly make, then they make fun of my support for President Trump, at least twice they crossed the line and I had no choice but to report them for it. I lost the first one and won the second one. I really think I had a case in both cases against them. I did not want to report them, But I figured if I report them they will ese off on the light Harassment which is not actionable and the Flame against me. Granted it is because I use the B P D and my other canned responses, I now finally understand this, which you and Farnhamia have been telling me.

But Nothing I Post with articles, sources and comments will change their minds either, it really does works both ways, lets be honest about it. If not they would not put down my right wing sources as wrong and their leftists sources as right every time, over and over again, and they deny it. Persons who know me personally know nothing upsets me. ok this is the only thing that upsets me, that gets me, and they deny it. As I have posted to them I don't say that about their leftist sources.

My new Policy is I only report any nation I think has broken an NS Rule against me, not other nations that have nothing to do with me. I don try to get any nations general and RP threads locked for any reasons, as has been done to me and other natios many times. Not even the RPs are safe anymore on NS, sad this is very sad.

I know their I go again with my canned responses but in this particular case in context of the general and RP threads I cant help it.

I wish we could all be NS Friends and RP together, despite our politics and despite Trump.

I love NS for general and the RPs of the nations. I Prefer real world and real regional world named nations, with my real world nations and empire nations I have taken over the real world.

As well as part of the non real world with my made nation named nations. I really do have over 151 Plus nations, most are dead as sleep till I wake them up again. It is easy to update, you update a certain number of nations each day in exact order over and over again, from a list.

I just thanked Frisbeeteria, Farhhamia and the Moderators staff that discussed and reviewed my case. I Plan to not let you guys down. My main concern is to keep my record clean which I am very proud of and wish to keep clean. I really do Plan to be on NS for the rest of my life and from beyond the grave, If Possible, which I love and we all love. No BS.

I am the worlds greatest insomniac, I beat the worlds record every day.

I guess President Trump is the second greatest insomniac with his 3 in the morning tweets. President Trump is no Gentleman.

Republican President Ronald Reagan was a Gentleman, they don't make them like President Ronald Reagan anymore. President Ronald Reagan and First Lady Nancy Reagan loved each other dearly, Her favorite color was Republican Red Dancing cheek to cheek to My Lady In Red.

No BS

I thank you all.

[Vassenor]

OK, now this witch hunt is getting downright dangerous.

Trump Supporters Accused Him of Being the Whistleblower. They Were Wrong.

The long and short of it is that a former Obama staffer (who hasn't worked at the White House since 2017) was accused of being the Impeachment Whistleblower on twitter. And has since been receiving credible threats against his life.

[Gormwood]

OK, now this witch hunt is getting downright dangerous.

Trump Supporters Accused Him of Being the Whistleblower. They Were Wrong.

The long and short of it is that a former Obama staffer (who hasn't worked at the White House since 2017) was accused of being the Impeachment Whistleblower on twitter. And has since been receiving credible threats against his life.

Not a surprise at all. Donnie whines "WITCH HUNT" but it's his base that comprises the torch and pitchfork mob. It'll eventually reach a point where someone wrongly or even correctly identified gets murdered as the whistleblower. Naturally should such a tragedy happen Donnie will have to read from a script if he doesn't want to own himself with a No Sense of Decency moment.

[Nakena]

OK, now this witch hunt is getting downright dangerous.

Trump Supporters Accused Him of Being the Whistleblower. They Were Wrong.

The long and short of it is that a former Obama staffer (who hasn't worked at the White House since 2017) was accused of being the Impeachment Whistleblower on twitter. And has since been receiving credible threats against his life.

Not a surprise at all. Donnie whines "WITCH HUNT" but it's his base that comprises the torch and pitchfork mob. It'll eventually reach a point where someone wrongly or even correctly identified gets murdered as the whistleblower. Naturally should such a tragedy hapoen Donnie will have to read from a script if he doesn't want to own himself with a No Sense of Decency moment.

I am glad you returned to your old genre of speculative Fan-Fiction writing.

[Gormwood]

Not a surprise at all. Donnie whines "WITCH HUNT" but it's his base that comprises the torch and pitchfork mob. It'll eventually reach a point where someone wrongly or even correctly identified gets murdered as the whistleblower. Naturally should such a tragedy hapoen Donnie will have to read from a script if he doesn't want to own himself with a No Sense of Decency moment.

I am glad you returned to your old genre of speculative Fan-Fiction writing.

"Very fine people on both sides" was such a literary masterpiece.

[San Lumen]

OK, now this witch hunt is getting downright dangerous.

Trump Supporters Accused Him of Being the Whistleblower. They Were Wrong.

The long and short of it is that a former Obama staffer (who hasn't worked at the White House since 2017) was accused of being the Impeachment Whistleblower on twitter. And has since been receiving credible threats against his life.

Not a surprise at all. Donnie whines "WITCH HUNT" but it's his base that comprises the torch and pitchfork mob. It'll eventually reach a point where someone wrongly or even correctly identified gets murdered as the whistleblower. Naturally should such a tragedy happen Donnie will have to read from a script if he doesn't want to own himself with a No Sense of Decency moment.

I fear that’s where this is headed. His support base has become a cult

[Gormwood]

Not a surprise at all. Donnie whines "WITCH HUNT" but it's his base that comprises the torch and pitchfork mob. It'll eventually reach a point where someone wrongly or even correctly identified gets murdered as the whistleblower. Naturally should such a tragedy happen Donnie will have to read from a script if he doesn't want to own himself with a No Sense of Decency moment.

I fear that’s where this is headed. His support base has become a cult

"Become"?

[Fartsniffage]

In his new book Triggered: How the Left Thrives on Hate and Wants to Silence Us, Mr Trump Jr describes visiting the US war cemetery where 400,000 ex-soldiers lie outside of Washington DC on the eve of his father's inauguration.

His moment of reflection came as the president-elect laid a wreath on the Tomb of the Unknowns.

"As we drove past the rows of white grave markers, in the gravity of the moment, I had a deep sense of the importance of the presidency and a love of our country, " wrote Mr Trump Jr, 41.

"In that moment, I also thought of all the attacks we'd already suffered as a family, and about all the sacrifices we'd have to make to help my father succeed - voluntarily giving up a huge chunk of our business and all international deals to avoid the appearance that we were 'profiting off of the office.'"

He later adds: "Frankly, it was a big sacrifice, costing us millions and millions of dollars annually. Of course, we didn't get any credit whatsoever from the mainstream media, which now does not surprise me at all."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-50338236

[Gormwood]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-50338236

Marie Antoinette was more humble.

[Greater Miami Shores]

Not a surprise at all. Donnie whines "WITCH HUNT" but it's his base that comprises the torch and pitchfork mob. It'll eventually reach a point where someone wrongly or even correctly identified gets murdered as the whistleblower. Naturally should such a tragedy hapoen Donnie will have to read from a script if he doesn't want to own himself with a No Sense of Decency moment.

I am glad you returned to your old genre of speculative Fan-Fiction writing.

Awesome interesting post nak my friend lol. A little humor of a lol expression is ok from time to time.

[Cannot think of a name]

OK, now this witch hunt is getting downright dangerous.

Trump Supporters Accused Him of Being the Whistleblower. They Were Wrong.

The long and short of it is that a former Obama staffer (who hasn't worked at the White House since 2017) was accused of being the Impeachment Whistleblower on twitter. And has since been receiving credible threats against his life.

Not a surprise at all. Donnie whines "WITCH HUNT" but it's his base that comprises the torch and pitchfork mob. It'll eventually reach a point where someone wrongly or even correctly identified gets murdered as the whistleblower. Naturally should such a tragedy happen Donnie will have to read from a script if he doesn't want to own himself with a No Sense of Decency moment.

It's cool, when the whistleblower ends up dead it will be the Clintons somehow that are responsible.

[San Lumen]

Not a surprise at all. Donnie whines "WITCH HUNT" but it's his base that comprises the torch and pitchfork mob. It'll eventually reach a point where someone wrongly or even correctly identified gets murdered as the whistleblower. Naturally should such a tragedy happen Donnie will have to read from a script if he doesn't want to own himself with a No Sense of Decency moment.

It's cool, when the whistleblower ends up dead it will be the Clintons somehow that are responsible.

And im fairly certain a large portion of Trump supporters wont care.

[Nakena]

Not a surprise at all. Donnie whines "WITCH HUNT" but it's his base that comprises the torch and pitchfork mob. It'll eventually reach a point where someone wrongly or even correctly identified gets murdered as the whistleblower. Naturally should such a tragedy happen Donnie will have to read from a script if he doesn't want to own himself with a No Sense of Decency moment.

It's cool, when the whistleblower ends up dead it will be the Clintons somehow that are responsible.

I am sure he's currently under government protection. And if not, wouldn the Clintons be able to pay for some personal protection? :^)

[Zurkerx]

Not a surprise at all. Donnie whines "WITCH HUNT" but it's his base that comprises the torch and pitchfork mob. It'll eventually reach a point where someone wrongly or even correctly identified gets murdered as the whistleblower. Naturally should such a tragedy happen Donnie will have to read from a script if he doesn't want to own himself with a No Sense of Decency moment.

It's cool, when the whistleblower ends up dead it will be the Clintons somehow that are responsible.

I feel like the Clintons are blamed for a lot of things, even when they're not directly tied to it... talk about a grudge Republicans hold.

So, not only does Rep. Nunes want Rep. Schiff to testify in the inquiry behind close doors, which I feel is hypocritical of itself since Republicans have denounced closed door hearings; must be only good for them, they have also want Hunter Biden, Ukraine whistleblower, and others as impeachment inquiry witnesses. I don't see the Democrats approving Biden, the Ohrs, or the Whistleblower but I do see them going ahead with the likes of Morrison, Volker, and Hale. This is going to be fun.

[Nakena]

I am glad you returned to your old genre of speculative Fan-Fiction writing.

Awesome interesting post nak my friend lol. A little humor of a lol expression is ok from time to time.

What else can we do in this world? We need to improve the content here. Like you know the very best posts.

I am glad you returned to your old genre of speculative Fan-Fiction writing.

"Very fine people on both sides" was such a literary masterpiece.

Speaking about fine people, lets focus a bit on the secondary characters of the Trump show.

For example, I like how nobody ever noticed Elaine Chao standing next to him quietly and softly smiling during that infamous press conference in Trump Tower. Shes married to Mitch and it's fairly obvious that she is the one whos is the dominant one. Mitch clearly looks always like the typical henpecked husbando compared to the strong and enigmatic dragon lady who most obviously calling the shots in their relationship. And quite likely being the driving force in the background.