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Which would be your favored candidate for the 2020 Republican Party presidential nomination?

Donald Trump
47
27%
Rocky De La Fuente
5
3%
Joe Walsh
4
2%
Bill Weld
23
13%
Bob Ely
0
No votes
Zoltan Istvan
6
3%
None of the above/other
30
17%
David Hasselhoff
58
34%
 
Total votes : 173

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San Lumen
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Postby San Lumen » Sat Feb 08, 2020 1:10 pm

Telconi wrote:
Gormwood wrote:A President Sanders signing federal firearm regulations would an appropriate revenge.


Nothing you support is appropriate.

You called for state legislatures to block anything a Democratic governor does but if a Democratic legislature did that to a Republican Governor you'd scream bloody murder.

At least you fully admit you don;t like democracy or a peaceful transfer of power. Your in good company though. The Republican party doesnt believe in it either

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The Greater Ohio Valley
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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Sat Feb 08, 2020 1:17 pm

Necroghastia wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Nothing you support is appropriate.

LGBTQIA rights are inappropriate to you. Glad you finally admitted it.

Racial equality and free speech are also apparently inappropriate as well.
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Postby San Lumen » Sat Feb 08, 2020 1:18 pm

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:LGBTQIA rights are inappropriate to you. Glad you finally admitted it.

Racial equality and free speech are also apparently inappropriate as well.

and Democrats winning elections or getting anything done in office

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Postby Gormwood » Sat Feb 08, 2020 1:21 pm

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:LGBTQIA rights are inappropriate to you. Glad you finally admitted it.

Racial equality and free speech are also apparently inappropriate as well.

The only thing appropriate are Oprah-level gun giveaways apparently
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Postby Telconi » Sat Feb 08, 2020 1:22 pm

Gormwood wrote:
The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:Racial equality and free speech are also apparently inappropriate as well.

The only thing appropriate are Oprah-level gun giveaways apparently


Or, y'know, decent governance.
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Postby Necroghastia » Sat Feb 08, 2020 1:23 pm

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:LGBTQIA rights are inappropriate to you. Glad you finally admitted it.

Racial equality and free speech are also apparently inappropriate as well.

And freedom of association and environmental protections... methinks Tel needs to stop lying on his Pro/Anti spoiler in his sig.
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Postby San Lumen » Sat Feb 08, 2020 1:25 pm

Necroghastia wrote:
The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:Racial equality and free speech are also apparently inappropriate as well.

And freedom of association and environmental protections... methinks Tel needs to stop lying on his Pro/Anti spoiler in his sig.

They did call for the elections in Virginia to not be recognized and for Republicans to refuse to hand over power

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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sat Feb 08, 2020 2:28 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:And freedom of association and environmental protections... methinks Tel needs to stop lying on his Pro/Anti spoiler in his sig.

They did call for the elections in Virginia to not be recognized and for Republicans to refuse to hand over power

He also called for scientists not to be trusted at one point.

Telconi wrote:My point is that believing scientists is bad. And people ought not do this thing.
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Postby Genivaria » Sat Feb 08, 2020 2:33 pm

Telconi wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Yeah how dare we have free and fair elections and a peaceful transfer of power. Both things you don’t believe in


Why should you get to have those things?

It's hilarious how you can't go one page without admitting that you want a one-party authoritarian state.

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Postby Gormwood » Sat Feb 08, 2020 2:34 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Why should you get to have those things?

It's hilarious how you can't go one page without admitting that you want a one-party authoritarian state.

Imagine if the Republicans were suddenly in favor of gun regulations.
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Postby Genivaria » Sat Feb 08, 2020 2:37 pm

Gormwood wrote:
Genivaria wrote:It's hilarious how you can't go one page without admitting that you want a one-party authoritarian state.

Imagine if the Republicans were suddenly in favor of gun regulations.

Which is ironic considering that Trump declared support for just taking guns without a court order, where's the outrage?
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Postby Albrenia » Sat Feb 08, 2020 2:41 pm

Uhm... this isn't really the 'Telconi's politics' thread. As much as I disagree almost entirely with their politics, it's a little off to dogpile another NSGer.

On the topic of Trump wanting to take away guns, they rolled up a newspaper and booped him on the nose for that and he changed his opinion right quick. Too bad really, since it's one of a few things his base would absolutely ditch him for enacting, imho.

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sat Feb 08, 2020 2:42 pm

I can’t help but notice Hasselhoff has more votes than Trump in the poll.
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Postby Nakena » Sat Feb 08, 2020 3:13 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:I can’t help but notice Hasselhoff has more votes than Trump in the poll.


Someone needs to tell them to never hassle the Hoff.

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The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sat Feb 08, 2020 3:16 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:I can’t help but notice Hasselhoff has more votes than Trump in the poll.

Hasselhoff 2020.

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Postby Telconi » Sat Feb 08, 2020 3:18 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
San Lumen wrote:They did call for the elections in Virginia to not be recognized and for Republicans to refuse to hand over power

He also called for scientists not to be trusted at one point.

Telconi wrote:My point is that believing scientists is bad. And people ought not do this thing.


Hey now, I ought to get some royalties for your biographical writings.
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-Labor Unions
-Environmental Protections
ANTI:
-Racism
-Sexism
-Bigotry In All Forms
-Government Overreach
-Government Surveillance
-Freedom For Security Social Transactions
-Unnecessary Taxes
-Excessively Specific Government Programs
-Foreign Entanglements
-Religious Extremism
-Fascists Masquerading as "Social Justice Warriors"

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The Greater Ohio Valley
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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Sat Feb 08, 2020 3:24 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Why should you get to have those things?

It's hilarious how you can't go one page without admitting that you want a one-party authoritarian state.

And then he’ll deny the things he’s clearly said and say they’re lies.

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
San Lumen wrote:They did call for the elections in Virginia to not be recognized and for Republicans to refuse to hand over power

He also called for scientists not to be trusted at one point.

Telconi wrote:My point is that believing scientists is bad. And people ought not do this thing.

Anti-intellectualism at its finest.
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Postby Telconi » Sat Feb 08, 2020 3:24 pm

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:
Genivaria wrote:It's hilarious how you can't go one page without admitting that you want a one-party authoritarian state.

And then he’ll deny the things he’s clearly said and say they’re lies.

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:He also called for scientists not to be trusted at one point.


Anti-intellectualism at its finest.


Better than wanton worship of "intellectualism"
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-Weapons Rights
-Gender Equality
-LGBTQ Rights
-Racial Equality
-Religious Freedom
-Freedom of Speech
-Freedom of Association
-Life
-Limited Government
-Non Interventionism
-Labor Unions
-Environmental Protections
ANTI:
-Racism
-Sexism
-Bigotry In All Forms
-Government Overreach
-Government Surveillance
-Freedom For Security Social Transactions
-Unnecessary Taxes
-Excessively Specific Government Programs
-Foreign Entanglements
-Religious Extremism
-Fascists Masquerading as "Social Justice Warriors"

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Postby Albrenia » Sat Feb 08, 2020 3:27 pm

Telconi wrote:
The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:And then he’ll deny the things he’s clearly said and say they’re lies.


Anti-intellectualism at its finest.


Better than wanton worship of "intellectualism"


I kind of like people following the scientific method and finding out the truth based on facts, not what 'feels' right or politically fits the narrative, though.

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Postby Gormwood » Sat Feb 08, 2020 3:27 pm

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:
Genivaria wrote:It's hilarious how you can't go one page without admitting that you want a one-party authoritarian state.

And then he’ll deny the things he’s clearly said and say they’re lies.

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:He also called for scientists not to be trusted at one point.


Anti-intellectualism at its finest.

He gaslights more than a propane stove.
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Postby Telconi » Sat Feb 08, 2020 3:28 pm

Albrenia wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Better than wanton worship of "intellectualism"


I kind of like people following the scientific method and finding out the truth based on facts, not what 'feels' right or politically fits the narrative, though.


Evidently that's bad, for some reason...
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-Religious Freedom
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-Freedom of Association
-Life
-Limited Government
-Non Interventionism
-Labor Unions
-Environmental Protections
ANTI:
-Racism
-Sexism
-Bigotry In All Forms
-Government Overreach
-Government Surveillance
-Freedom For Security Social Transactions
-Unnecessary Taxes
-Excessively Specific Government Programs
-Foreign Entanglements
-Religious Extremism
-Fascists Masquerading as "Social Justice Warriors"

"The Constitution is NOT an instrument for the government to restrain the people,it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government-- lest it come to dominate our lives and interests." ~ Patrick Henry

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Postby Vassenor » Sat Feb 08, 2020 3:34 pm

Aureumterra wrote:
Cisairse wrote:
That seems unlikely, considering Sanders hasn't displayed the same disrespect for the law that Trump has.

They’ll make stuff up, just like they did with Trump. Already the DNC has tried to cheat Sanders out of Iowa, this is just the beginning


So what has the "bureaucratic establishment" made up about Trump?
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Postby Gormwood » Sat Feb 08, 2020 3:36 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Aureumterra wrote:They’ll make stuff up, just like they did with Trump. Already the DNC has tried to cheat Sanders out of Iowa, this is just the beginning


So what has the "bureaucratic establishment" made up about Trump?

Mueller Probe and Ukraine, all lies.
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Postby Proctopeo » Sat Feb 08, 2020 4:01 pm

I'd trust scientists within their specific field of expertise, though with reservations in case of some complicating factor, like their expressed beliefs being discredited or compelled by their organization. An electrician isn't a brain surgeon; a nuclear physicist isn't an expert on global politics. People can be polymaths, but the default assumption should be that they're not.

Vassenor wrote:
Aureumterra wrote:They’ll make stuff up, just like they did with Trump. Already the DNC has tried to cheat Sanders out of Iowa, this is just the beginning


So what has the "bureaucratic establishment" made up about Trump?

Wasn't the entire pee tape controversy a whole crock of shit?
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sat Feb 08, 2020 4:11 pm

Proctopeo wrote:Wasn't the entire pee tape controversy a whole crock of shit?


*giggles*

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