MAGAThread XVII: All Things NOT Impeachment

[Chernoslavia]

No they don't. And it doesn't matter if you're okay with it, you're not entitled to other people's possessions. Ever.

That still doesn't mean people are obligated to hand you a free gun.

Sure they do. it really doesn’t matter you think you are being ripped off. Well you have the right to complain about and by all means do.

Unfortunately for you; if/when Universal Health care goes to a vote; you will be in a tiny minority opposing it.

No, they don't. An actual right doesn't violate the rights of others. You can support universal healthcare as much as you like, in reality no one is obligated to hand you any goods or services much less for free.

Tiny minority according to who?

[The Black Forrest]

Sure they do. it really doesn’t matter you think you are being ripped off. Well you have the right to complain about and by all means do.

Unfortunately for you; if/when Universal Health care goes to a vote; you will be in a tiny minority opposing it.

No, they don't. An actual right doesn't violate the rights of others. You can support universal healthcare as much as you like, in reality no one is obligated to hand you any goods or services much less for free.

Tiny minority according to who?

More people are ok with being “ripped off” over access to health care.

Oh I think the idea of universal health care is attractive to far more people then you are willing to admit.

[Chernoslavia]

No, they don't. An actual right doesn't violate the rights of others. You can support universal healthcare as much as you like, in reality no one is obligated to hand you any goods or services much less for free.

Tiny minority according to who?

More people are ok with being “ripped off” over access to health care.

Oh I think the idea of universal health care is attractive to far more people then you are willing to admit.

And I care about what a majority of people think because?

Again, according to who?

[Albrenia]

Sure they do. it really doesn’t matter you think you are being ripped off. Well you have the right to complain about and by all means do.

Unfortunately for you; if/when Universal Health care goes to a vote; you will be in a tiny minority opposing it.

No, they don't. An actual right doesn't violate the rights of others. You can support universal healthcare as much as you like, in reality no one is obligated to hand you any goods or services much less for free.

I know this might be splitting hairs a bit, but in some cases you are most certainly obligated to provide free goods or services to another person. Such as in the case of being a parent, or a more occupational caregiver.

[The Black Forrest]

More people are ok with being “ripped off” over access to health care.

Oh I think the idea of universal health care is attractive to far more people then you are willing to admit.

And I care about what a majority of people think because?

Again, according to who?

*shrugs* You seem to care people should be concerned you are being ripped off. Why should they?

[Chernoslavia]

No, they don't. An actual right doesn't violate the rights of others. You can support universal healthcare as much as you like, in reality no one is obligated to hand you any goods or services much less for free.

I know this might be splitting hairs a bit, but in some cases you are most certainly obligated to provide free goods or services to another person. Such as in the case of being a parent, or a more occupational caregiver.

True, but the parent is the one who has brought the child into the world and so neglecting the child and can be considered having killed him/her.

[Chernoslavia]

And I care about what a majority of people think because?

Again, according to who?

*shrugs* You seem to care people should be concerned you are being ripped off. Why should they?

I am here to disprove the notion that people have a ''right'' to someone else's goods or services. Not argue about what healthcare will do or how many people support it.

[The Black Forrest]

*shrugs* You seem to care people should be concerned you are being ripped off. Why should they?

I am here to disprove the notion that people have a ''right'' to someone else's goods or services. Not argue about what healthcare will do or how many people support it.

Taxation is theft has been offered since taxation started and will continue long after we are gone.

[Ifreann]

Sure they do. it really doesn’t matter you think you are being ripped off. Well you have the right to complain about and by all means do.

Unfortunately for you; if/when Universal Health care goes to a vote; you will be in a tiny minority opposing it.

No, they don't. An actual right doesn't violate the rights of others. You can support universal healthcare as much as you like, in reality no one is obligated to hand you any goods or services much less for free.

Tiny minority according to who?

How do you get juries in America? Do you just ask for volunteers?

[The East Marches II]

I am here to disprove the notion that people have a ''right'' to someone else's goods or services. Not argue about what healthcare will do or how many people support it.

Taxation is theft has been offered since taxation started and will continue long after we are gone.

That's ok, IL tells me if they privatize the highways it will become not oppression and just a fee :^)

[Chernoslavia]

I am here to disprove the notion that people have a ''right'' to someone else's goods or services. Not argue about what healthcare will do or how many people support it.

Taxation is theft has been offered since taxation started and will continue long after we are gone.

You're missing the point. I am aware that taxes aren't going away anytime soon if at all much like government sanctioned murder, but that doesn't make any of these rights.

[Albrenia]

Taxation is theft has been offered since taxation started and will continue long after we are gone.

That's ok, IL tells me if they privatize the highways it will become not oppression and just a fee :^)

I believe the correct term is a 'toll'.

[Cannot think of a name]

No, they don't. An actual right doesn't violate the rights of others. You can support universal healthcare as much as you like, in reality no one is obligated to hand you any goods or services much less for free.

Tiny minority according to who?

How do you get juries in America? Do you just ask for volunteers?

You get a thing in the mail and if you ignore it you get another thing in the mail. I just got my other thing in the mail.

[Tarsonis]

That's not how this works.

Hello pot

Good to see you again kettle. Give my best to the cutlery.

[The East Marches II]

That's ok, IL tells me if they privatize the highways it will become not oppression and just a fee :^)

I believe the correct term is a 'toll'.

Open Road T(r)olling

[Tarsonis]

*shrugs* You seem to care people should be concerned you are being ripped off. Why should they?

I am here to disprove the notion that people have a ''right'' to someone else's goods or services. Not argue about what healthcare will do or how many people support it.

Gideon v Wainwright would say otherwise.

[New haven america]

Missouri is a myth.

[The East Marches II]

Missouri is a myth.

Fuck I thought they were in Kansas myself. RIP

[Ifreann]

How do you get juries in America? Do you just ask for volunteers?

You get a thing in the mail and if you ignore it you get another thing in the mail. I just got my other thing in the mail.

There you have it, folks, jury trials are communism. Innocent people forced to provide a service to accused criminals, and the criminal doesn't even have to pay.

[New haven america]

No, they don't. An actual right doesn't violate the rights of others. You can support universal healthcare as much as you like, in reality no one is obligated to hand you any goods or services much less for free.

Tiny minority according to who?

How do you get juries in America? Do you just ask for volunteers?

You get letters in the mail and ignore them for as long as humanly possible.

[The Black Forrest]

Taxation is theft has been offered since taxation started and will continue long after we are gone.

That's ok, IL tells me if they privatize the highways it will become not oppression and just a fee :^)

. Oh there will still be taxation to build and maintain them. Fees can’t pay for it.

[The East Marches II]

That's ok, IL tells me if they privatize the highways it will become not oppression and just a fee :^)

. Oh there will still be taxation to build and maintain them. Fees can’t pay for it.

The jokes on us, the owner of the firm used to be an IL politician too. The rogues found a way to game us 3 times!

[Chernoslavia]

You get a thing in the mail and if you ignore it you get another thing in the mail. I just got my other thing in the mail.

There you have it, folks, jury trials are communism. Innocent people forced to provide a service to accused criminals, and the criminal doesn't even have to pay.

That's a duty. Forcing people to attend jury duty isn't considered a right anywhere in the US.

[Tarsonis]

You get a thing in the mail and if you ignore it you get another thing in the mail. I just got my other thing in the mail.

There you have it, folks, jury trials are communism. Innocent people forced to provide a service to accused criminals, and the criminal doesn't even have to pay.

But they're paid. So it's okay.

[Cannot think of a name]

You get a thing in the mail and if you ignore it you get another thing in the mail. I just got my other thing in the mail.

There you have it, folks, jury trials are communism. Innocent people forced to provide a service to accused criminals, and the criminal doesn't even have to pay.

I think I get $7 a day out of the deal. Not even enough to cover lunch.