MAGAThread XVII: All Things NOT Impeachment

[Telconi]

With Trump's extended travel ban, in practice it means that there will be no more Nigerians who'll become eligible for permanent residency in the US as citizens. This is most wonderful news. Stuff like this is exactly why he secures my loyalties.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics ... mmigration

yeah to bad if someone is gay in Nigeria and likely to imprisoned. Tough luck to you, Sorry you were born in the wrong country

At this point why not just make a new rule that only white people can travel to the United States or become US citizens? He might as well at this point

And here I thought jurisdictions had a right to make their own laws.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

With Trump's extended travel ban, in practice it means that there will be no more Nigerians who'll become eligible for permanent residency in the US as citizens. This is most wonderful news. Stuff like this is exactly why he secures my loyalties.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics ... mmigration

He secures your loyalties by doing something with racist effect even though he says it's for terrorism security reasons.

I would give you the benefit of the doubt if it didn't mean also giving Trump the benefit of the doubt. I can't do that. I just don't believe Trump that a fairly minor security threat is the reason for banning the main source of African immigration. It's racist in intent as well as effect, and no more proof is needed than your enthusiastic support.

[Albrenia]

yeah to bad if someone is gay in Nigeria and likely to imprisoned. Tough luck to you, Sorry you were born in the wrong country

At this point why not just make a new rule that only white people can travel to the United States or become US citizens? He might as well at this point

And here I thought jurisdictions had a right to make their own laws.

Depends on the laws I guess. Violations of Human Rights shouldn't be allowed, but that's just my opinion so meh.

[Gormwood]

And here I thought jurisdictions had a right to make their own laws.

Depends on the laws I guess. Violations of Human Rights shouldn't be allowed, but that's just my opinion so meh.

It'll be a different tune sung the moment a jurisdiction decides to impose gun regulations.

[Chernoslavia]

I would say we have a vested interest in people not believing they can kill American personnel with impunity. That goes well beyond simply "getting even." The principle is more akin to peace through strength. The implied threat of retaliation for hurting our people discourages hurting our people.

You're assuming that killing Suleimani is actually going to make them stop. It'll be a series of tits for tats that escalate.

It won’t escalate into anything more than a few skirmishes and they are the ones who will ultimately be destroyed.

[Gormwood]

You're assuming that killing Suleimani is actually going to make them stop. It'll be a series of tits for tats that escalate.

It won’t escalate into anything more than a few skirmishes and they are the ones who will ultimately be destroyed.

Didn't they say that about the VC too?

[Chernoslavia]

It won’t escalate into anything more than a few skirmishes and they are the ones who will ultimately be destroyed.

Didn't they say that about the VC too?

Not a military defeat.

[Gormwood]

Didn't they say that about the VC too?

Not a military defeat.

About as valuable as a popular vote win.

[Chernoslavia]

Not a military defeat.

About as valuable as a popular vote win.

No it isn't. As usual you have no understanding of what you're talking about. Several things wrong with your VC post.

[Fahran]

You're assuming that killing Suleimani is actually going to make them stop. It'll be a series of tits for tats that escalate.

I imagine the IRI has reached a suitable impasse given one of their attempts at retaliation led to the deaths of a large number of Iranian citizens, prompting yet more protests from a population that has grown tired of Iranian meddling abroad, and that the successful one has been hyped up by the regime to appease the hawkish interest groups rambling for vengeance. Another few escalations in that fashion will see the IRI fall so they have every reason to call it quits now.

[Telconi]

Depends on the laws I guess. Violations of Human Rights shouldn't be allowed, but that's just my opinion so meh.

It'll be a different tune sung the moment a jurisdiction decides to impose gun regulations.

Implying Lumen doesn't express support for gun bans...

And here I thought jurisdictions had a right to make their own laws.

Depends on the laws I guess. Violations of Human Rights shouldn't be allowed, but that's just my opinion so meh.

Probably a good place to draw the line.

[Albrenia]

So, uh, I just heard Trump dropped the ban on using land mines... is that true?

They were banned for pretty bloody good reason if I remember correctly. Namely the exploding of too many kids playing in otherwise empty, unmarked fields and the like.

[The Alma Mater]

So, uh, I just heard Trump dropped the ban on using land mines... is that true?

Ofc. It was a ban introduced by Obama, and everything Obama did must be undone. So says Trump.

[The East Marches II]

So, uh, I just heard Trump dropped the ban on using land mines... is that true?

They were banned for pretty bloody good reason if I remember correctly. Namely the exploding of too many kids playing in otherwise empty, unmarked fields and the like.

We might face a high intensity war in which we will be outnumbered by Russia and China. Mines are a method making that sort of thing easier to fight in layman's speak. It isn't just fuck Obama. It is a serious move and not a good sign as to what Uncle Sam thinks is on the horizon.

[Albrenia]

So, uh, I just heard Trump dropped the ban on using land mines... is that true?

They were banned for pretty bloody good reason if I remember correctly. Namely the exploding of too many kids playing in otherwise empty, unmarked fields and the like.

We might face a high intensity war in which we will be outnumbered by Russia and China. Mines are a method making that sort of thing easier to fight in layman's speak. It isn't just fuck Obama. It is a serious move and not a good sign as to what Uncle Sam thinks is on the horizon.

Well shit...

I'd rather we wait until that sort of shit actually happens before we start planting indiscriminate explosives in the ground though. That's just me though.

[The East Marches II]

We might face a high intensity war in which we will be outnumbered by Russia and China. Mines are a method making that sort of thing easier to fight in layman's speak. It isn't just fuck Obama. It is a serious move and not a good sign as to what Uncle Sam thinks is on the horizon.

Well shit...

I'd rather we wait until that sort of shit actually happens before we start planting indiscriminate explosives in the ground though. That's just me though.

They don't get used until we need them tbh. Uncle Sam isn't going to go plant them everywhere. They will be in inventory there if we need them ready to go. Which is wiser than banking on being able to buy them from somewhere else on outbreak of war and hoping they get there in time.

[Telconi]

We might face a high intensity war in which we will be outnumbered by Russia and China. Mines are a method making that sort of thing easier to fight in layman's speak. It isn't just fuck Obama. It is a serious move and not a good sign as to what Uncle Sam thinks is on the horizon.

Well shit...

I'd rather we wait until that sort of shit actually happens before we start planting indiscriminate explosives in the ground though. That's just me though.

If shit hits the fan, it's probably a good idea to have them in inventory and distributed before gorillions of commies are coming through the wire.

[The Lone Alliance]

So, uh, I just heard Trump dropped the ban on using land mines... is that true?

They were banned for pretty bloody good reason if I remember correctly. Namely the exploding of too many kids playing in otherwise empty, unmarked fields and the like.

The US already used countless land mines in the Korean DMZ so it was already a rather hypocritical policy. "We won't use mines, except in places we do"

The biggest problem that landmines caused was that most of the landmines used in conflicts up until recently were 50s to 70s level tech which did cause the problem of being endlessly deadly because there's no fail safe.

The US supposedly went to work on a type of landmine that deactivates after a set amount of time with no override, but in a way that's another danger because leaving deactivated mines might mean they won't blow up children, there's nothing stopping an insurgent from digging them up, taking them apart, and using the contained explosives in IEDs.

Alternatively a stupid kid attempts a Darwin award and tries to dig up the deactivated mines anyway and somehow reactivates it.

Either way you don't want to leave a mine behind, even if it's a deactivated safe one.

But if the US is to the point of using landmines on a large scale basis, things have gotten bad enough on the planet that the children are likely doomed anyway, like Chinese and Russian Paratroopers pouring into Japan, 2 US carriers are feeding the fish, MAD is being threatened, and the globe is on the brink of WW3 doomed.

[Eahland]

That feel when you can't even live up to the guy who shot his own friend 'by accident'.

And the friend apologized.

I've been operating on the theory that it was some kind of ritual combat for position within the Republican Party, or possibly the Bavarian Illuminati. Whittington challenged Cheney and lost, so he had to apologize. If he'd won, he would have moved up in the ranks.

[Crockerland]

And here I thought jurisdictions had a right to make their own laws.

Depends on the laws I guess. Violations of Human Rights shouldn't be allowed, but that's just my opinion so meh.

Moving to the United States is not a human right. We have a right, like every other nation, to have a secure border and decide who can and can't come into the country.

[Gormwood]

Depends on the laws I guess. Violations of Human Rights shouldn't be allowed, but that's just my opinion so meh.

Moving to the United States is not a human right. We have a right, like every other nation, to have a secure border and decide who can and can't come into the country.

When bang-bangs are somehow a human right but healthcare and safe asylum aren't.

[Cannot think of a name]

And the friend apologized.

I've been operating on the theory that it was some kind of ritual combat for position within the Republican Party, or possibly the Bavarian Illuminati. Whittington challenged Cheney and lost, so he had to apologize. If he'd won, he would have moved up in the ranks.

Coming this summer, from Bloomhouse...

[Gormwood]

I've been operating on the theory that it was some kind of ritual combat for position within the Republican Party, or possibly the Bavarian Illuminati. Whittington challenged Cheney and lost, so he had to apologize. If he'd won, he would have moved up in the ranks.

Coming this summer, from Bloomhouse...

"Blumhouse's The Great Outdoors."

[Chernoslavia]

Moving to the United States is not a human right. We have a right, like every other nation, to have a secure border and decide who can and can't come into the country.

When bang-bangs are somehow a human right but healthcare and safe asylum aren't.

Because they aren’t.

[Asherahan]

When bang-bangs are somehow a human right but healthcare and safe asylum aren't.

Because they aren’t.

K. Too much edge for me.