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Which would be your favored candidate for the 2020 Republican Party presidential nomination?

Donald Trump
47
27%
Rocky De La Fuente
5
3%
Joe Walsh
4
2%
Bill Weld
23
13%
Bob Ely
0
No votes
Zoltan Istvan
6
3%
None of the above/other
30
17%
David Hasselhoff
58
34%
 
Total votes : 173

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The Greater Ohio Valley
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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Sat Oct 19, 2019 8:51 pm

Napkizemlja wrote:
The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:None of that equals better. You want fun and interesting? Video games, movies and TV shows exist, go indulge in them.

Why not bring it to real life? Then you don't have to play video games!

Virtual life without consequences is better than real life with consequences that can either kill you or land you in a cell with Big Bubba.
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- Choice
- Environmental protections
- Secularism
ANTI
- Fascism/Nazism
- Conservatism
- Nationalism
- Authoritarianism/Totalitarianism
- Traditionalism
- Ethnic/racial supremacy
- Racism
- Sexism
- Transphobia
- Homophobia
- Religious extremism
- Laissez-faire capitalism
- Warmongering
- Accelerationism
- Isolationism
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sat Oct 19, 2019 8:52 pm

Bear Stearns wrote:
The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:Because dystopian hellscapes are fiction for a reason, they're objectively worse for the quality of life of the citizenry.


You're telling me you wouldn't want to live in the Batman universe?


Meeting batman would be cool, but I'd rather live in the marvel universe in new york.

Spider man, man.

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Postby Telconi » Sat Oct 19, 2019 8:52 pm

Everhall wrote:
Telconi wrote:
In a perfect world, there would be no racists, and no Jim Crow, but we don't live in that world, so sit ins and marches on Washington were called for.

In a perfect world, there would be no Democrats, and no shitty oppressive policies, but we don't live in that world, so electing a cheating, foul mouthed embezzler is called for.

There's no such thing as a perfect world; it begs the question: Perfect world for whom?

Regardless, even if electing Trump in your point of view was called for, it doesn't mean that everything he does against the fundamentals of the country is excusable. You can support him, yes, but you should demand something from him, something more than the ephemeral policies which last four or eight years, but something much more important: integrity.


I do demand things from him, and he has this far fulfilled them adequately.
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ANTI:
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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Sat Oct 19, 2019 8:52 pm

Bear Stearns wrote:
The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:Fuck no.


you're not a true batman fan

I hate DC.
Fly me to the moon on an irradiated manhole cover.
- Free speech
- Weapons rights
- Democracy
- LGBTQ+ rights
- Racial equality
- Gender/sexual equality
- Voting rights
- Universal healthcare
- Workers rights
- Drug decriminalization
- Cannabis legalization
- Due process
- Rehabilitative justice
- Religious freedom
- Choice
- Environmental protections
- Secularism
ANTI
- Fascism/Nazism
- Conservatism
- Nationalism
- Authoritarianism/Totalitarianism
- Traditionalism
- Ethnic/racial supremacy
- Racism
- Sexism
- Transphobia
- Homophobia
- Religious extremism
- Laissez-faire capitalism
- Warmongering
- Accelerationism
- Isolationism
- Theocracy
- Anti-intellectualism
- Climate change denialism

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Postby Gormwood » Sat Oct 19, 2019 8:53 pm

Bear Stearns wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Assuming you're the hero or the bigwig.


even the poor in dystopia's have more interesting lives. You're getting tortured in sadistic ways

Interesting if you're a gorehound watching the torture.
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The Greater Ohio Valley
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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Sat Oct 19, 2019 8:54 pm

Telconi wrote:
Everhall wrote:There's no such thing as a perfect world; it begs the question: Perfect world for whom?

Regardless, even if electing Trump in your point of view was called for, it doesn't mean that everything he does against the fundamentals of the country is excusable. You can support him, yes, but you should demand something from him, something more than the ephemeral policies which last four or eight years, but something much more important: integrity.


I do demand things from him, and he has this far fulfilled them adequately.

He banned bump stocks and advocated taking guns away without due process, that should automatically put him on your "no" list.
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Fly me to the moon on an irradiated manhole cover.
- Free speech
- Weapons rights
- Democracy
- LGBTQ+ rights
- Racial equality
- Gender/sexual equality
- Voting rights
- Universal healthcare
- Workers rights
- Drug decriminalization
- Cannabis legalization
- Due process
- Rehabilitative justice
- Religious freedom
- Choice
- Environmental protections
- Secularism
ANTI
- Fascism/Nazism
- Conservatism
- Nationalism
- Authoritarianism/Totalitarianism
- Traditionalism
- Ethnic/racial supremacy
- Racism
- Sexism
- Transphobia
- Homophobia
- Religious extremism
- Laissez-faire capitalism
- Warmongering
- Accelerationism
- Isolationism
- Theocracy
- Anti-intellectualism
- Climate change denialism

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Postby New haven america » Sat Oct 19, 2019 8:54 pm

Proctopeo wrote:
New haven america wrote:1. Denial is the first stage of grief.

There's no grief to be had. You're just talking out of your ass, is all.

2. But I like vaccinations.

So do most people.

Thank you for proving my point, as you yourself fail to see the blatant hypocrisy that makes up the Libertarian ideology.

I'd say it's almost as bad as things like anti-vaxxing or flat earth beliefs, but unlike those, Libertarianism doesn't really have any real political or social power.
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The Greater Ohio Valley
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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Sat Oct 19, 2019 8:55 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Bear Stearns wrote:
You're telling me you wouldn't want to live in the Batman universe?


Meeting batman would be cool, but I'd rather live in the marvel universe in new york.

Spider man, man.


Herp gets it.
Fly me to the moon on an irradiated manhole cover.
- Free speech
- Weapons rights
- Democracy
- LGBTQ+ rights
- Racial equality
- Gender/sexual equality
- Voting rights
- Universal healthcare
- Workers rights
- Drug decriminalization
- Cannabis legalization
- Due process
- Rehabilitative justice
- Religious freedom
- Choice
- Environmental protections
- Secularism
ANTI
- Fascism/Nazism
- Conservatism
- Nationalism
- Authoritarianism/Totalitarianism
- Traditionalism
- Ethnic/racial supremacy
- Racism
- Sexism
- Transphobia
- Homophobia
- Religious extremism
- Laissez-faire capitalism
- Warmongering
- Accelerationism
- Isolationism
- Theocracy
- Anti-intellectualism
- Climate change denialism

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Telconi
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Postby Telconi » Sat Oct 19, 2019 8:55 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Telconi wrote:
In a perfect world, there would be no racists, and no Jim Crow, but we don't live in that world, so sit ins and marches on Washington were called for.

In a perfect world, there would be no Democrats, and no shitty oppressive policies, but we don't live in that world, so electing a cheating, foul mouthed embezzler is called for.


"Lets keep on electing a moron beacuse OTHER POLTICAL SIDE EBIL"


This, but unironically.
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PRO:
-Weapons Rights
-Gender Equality
-LGBTQ Rights
-Racial Equality
-Religious Freedom
-Freedom of Speech
-Freedom of Association
-Life
-Limited Government
-Non Interventionism
-Labor Unions
-Environmental Protections
ANTI:
-Racism
-Sexism
-Bigotry In All Forms
-Government Overreach
-Government Surveillance
-Freedom For Security Social Transactions
-Unnecessary Taxes
-Excessively Specific Government Programs
-Foreign Entanglements
-Religious Extremism
-Fascists Masquerading as "Social Justice Warriors"

"The Constitution is NOT an instrument for the government to restrain the people,it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government-- lest it come to dominate our lives and interests." ~ Patrick Henry

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Napkizemlja
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Postby Napkizemlja » Sat Oct 19, 2019 8:56 pm

Gormwood wrote:
Napkizemlja wrote:Objectively more fun and interesting.

Assuming you're the hero or the bigwig.

Tbh if I could be anyone from the DC universe it would be Hugo Strange.
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Postby Telconi » Sat Oct 19, 2019 8:56 pm

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:
Telconi wrote:
I do demand things from him, and he has this far fulfilled them adequately.

He banned bump stocks and advocated taking guns away without due process, that should automatically put him on your "no" list.


Why? Because you said so? Because your opinions have value?
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-3.23 LIBERTARIAN

PRO:
-Weapons Rights
-Gender Equality
-LGBTQ Rights
-Racial Equality
-Religious Freedom
-Freedom of Speech
-Freedom of Association
-Life
-Limited Government
-Non Interventionism
-Labor Unions
-Environmental Protections
ANTI:
-Racism
-Sexism
-Bigotry In All Forms
-Government Overreach
-Government Surveillance
-Freedom For Security Social Transactions
-Unnecessary Taxes
-Excessively Specific Government Programs
-Foreign Entanglements
-Religious Extremism
-Fascists Masquerading as "Social Justice Warriors"

"The Constitution is NOT an instrument for the government to restrain the people,it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government-- lest it come to dominate our lives and interests." ~ Patrick Henry

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Postby Gormwood » Sat Oct 19, 2019 8:56 pm

Napkizemlja wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Assuming you're the hero or the bigwig.

Tbh if I could be anyone from the DC universe it would be Hugo Strange.

So not the average human.
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Postby New haven america » Sat Oct 19, 2019 8:57 pm

Bear Stearns wrote:
The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:Because dystopian hellscapes are fiction for a reason, they're objectively worse for the quality of life of the citizenry.


You're telling me you wouldn't want to live in the Batman universe?

Which Batman Universe?

There's like 50+ of them.
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Napkizemlja
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Postby Napkizemlja » Sat Oct 19, 2019 8:57 pm

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:
Napkizemlja wrote:Why not bring it to real life? Then you don't have to play video games!

Virtual life without consequences is better than real life with consequences that can either kill you or land you in a cell with Big Bubba.

It's not the same though. Are you telling me snowboarding in a video game is just as fun as doing it in real life? Same thing basically. I wont be satisfied until the world is a mix of GiTS, Deus Ex, and Blade Runner. And a little bit of Sin City for good measure. A gang of gun totting prostitutes taking over an entire area of a city would be cool, ngl.
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Postby Gormwood » Sat Oct 19, 2019 8:58 pm

New haven america wrote:
Bear Stearns wrote:
You're telling me you wouldn't want to live in the Batman universe?

Which Batman Universe?

There's like 50+ of them.

The 60s/West one would be a hilarious trip have to admit.
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Postby Napkizemlja » Sat Oct 19, 2019 9:00 pm

Gormwood wrote:
Napkizemlja wrote:Tbh if I could be anyone from the DC universe it would be Hugo Strange.

So not the average human.

Even then it'd still be baller. Imagine watching transhuman cops battle transhuman criminals on TV. Shit would be rad.
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Postby Napkizemlja » Sat Oct 19, 2019 9:00 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Bear Stearns wrote:
You're telling me you wouldn't want to live in the Batman universe?


Meeting batman would be cool, but I'd rather live in the marvel universe in new york.

Spider man, man.

The Punisher is the best Marvel hero tbh.
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Postby Gormwood » Sat Oct 19, 2019 9:02 pm

Napkizemlja wrote:
Gormwood wrote:So not the average human.

Even then it'd still be baller. Imagine watching transhuman cops battle transhuman criminals on TV. Shit would be rad.

Until that one fight literally hits home.
Bloodthirsty savages who call for violence against the Right while simultaneously being unarmed defenseless sissies who will get slaughtered by the gun-toting Right in a civil war.
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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Sat Oct 19, 2019 9:02 pm

Telconi wrote:Why?

You're well known for being against anyone who'd advocate for banning or restricting guns in any capacity. You're lacking any kind of consistency in this regard with Trump.

Telconi wrote:Because you said so?

If that's what you wanna believe.

Telconi wrote:Because your opinions have value?

About as much value as yours.
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- Democracy
- LGBTQ+ rights
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- Gender/sexual equality
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- Due process
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- Religious freedom
- Choice
- Environmental protections
- Secularism
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- Fascism/Nazism
- Conservatism
- Nationalism
- Authoritarianism/Totalitarianism
- Traditionalism
- Ethnic/racial supremacy
- Racism
- Sexism
- Transphobia
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- Religious extremism
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Postby Napkizemlja » Sat Oct 19, 2019 9:02 pm

Gormwood wrote:
Napkizemlja wrote:Even then it'd still be baller. Imagine watching transhuman cops battle transhuman criminals on TV. Shit would be rad.

Until that one fight literally hits home.

Nah man that'd be even better.
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Postby New haven america » Sat Oct 19, 2019 9:02 pm

Napkizemlja wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Meeting batman would be cool, but I'd rather live in the marvel universe in new york.

Spider man, man.

The Punisher is the best Marvel hero tbh.

Punisher's not a hero, he's an anti-hero.
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Postby Napkizemlja » Sat Oct 19, 2019 9:03 pm

New haven america wrote:
Napkizemlja wrote:The Punisher is the best Marvel hero tbh.

Punisher's not a hero, he's an anti-hero.

You say anti-hero, I say hero.
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Postby Gormwood » Sat Oct 19, 2019 9:04 pm

Napkizemlja wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Until that one fight literally hits home.

Nah man that'd be even better.

Hey, if you'd get off on having your home and property destroyed along with the likelihood of getting crippled or killed then more power to you.
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Postby Bear Stearns » Sat Oct 19, 2019 9:04 pm

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:
Bear Stearns wrote:
you're not a true batman fan

I hate DC.


Marvel is trash and you should feel bad for this take.
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Postby New haven america » Sat Oct 19, 2019 9:04 pm

Napkizemlja wrote:
New haven america wrote:Punisher's not a hero, he's an anti-hero.

You say anti-hero, I say hero.

No, literally, he's an anti-hero.

Marvel themselves say so, and have for a while.
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