Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 5:41 pmMore serious than abuse of power, obstruction of Congress and extortion apparently.
More serious than abuse of power, obstruction of Congress and extortion apparently.
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Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 5:41 pmMore serious than abuse of power, obstruction of Congress and extortion apparently.
Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 5:42 pmPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 5:44 pmGormwood wrote:More serious than abuse of power, obstruction of Congress and extortion apparently.
I never said those weren't serious crimes. I merely asserted that they might not have sufficient evidence to credibly convict in Trump's case but, again, this thread doesn't exist so we can quibble over impeachment. It's here so we can say "orange man bad" in different ways. I'm probably going to write a long post on the ecological impacts of the Trump presidency at some point since I'll be back at school soon and have time to kill before classes.
Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 5:47 pmThe extortion charge is silly and not something Trump was impeached for, abuse of power is a hallmark of the modern presidency, and obstruction of congress only applies to the witnesses who refused to comply.
Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 5:49 pmNorthern Davincia wrote:Gormwood wrote:
More serious than abuse of power, obstruction of Congress and extortion apparently.
The extortion charge is silly and not something Trump was impeached for, abuse of power is a hallmark of the modern presidency, and obstruction of congress only applies to the witnesses who refused to comply.
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Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 6:27 pmMy God. A president who had an extramarital affair? Who thought that possible?
Seriously; what Clinton did pales in comparison what Trump is alleged to have done.
Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 6:36 pmPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 6:43 pmFriends, this is not the Impeachment thread:
Farnhamia wrote:Northern Davincia wrote:The extortion charge is silly and not something Trump was impeached for, abuse of power is a hallmark of the modern presidency, and obstruction of congress only applies to the witnesses who refused to comply.
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Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 7:08 pmThat's the thing of it. People said " but he committed perjury!!!!!" Yes; that is a bad thing. However, it was for a question that didn't need to be raised. How was the US threatened by this?
People forget the investigation started because of Whitewater and when they couldn't get a case for that; they leaped on on the blowjob event.
Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 7:18 pmThe Black Forrest wrote:West Leas Oros 2 wrote:I don't think Fahran claimed otherwise.
That's the thing of it. People said " but he committed perjury!!!!!" Yes; that is a bad thing. However, it was for a question that didn't need to be raised. How was the US threatened by this?
People forget the investigation started because of Whitewater and when they couldn't get a case for that; they leaped on on the blowjob event.
What part of "NOT Impeachment" in the thread title are you having trouble with?
Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 7:22 pmFarnhamia wrote:The Black Forrest wrote:
That's the thing of it. People said " but he committed perjury!!!!!" Yes; that is a bad thing. However, it was for a question that didn't need to be raised. How was the US threatened by this?
People forget the investigation started because of Whitewater and when they couldn't get a case for that; they leaped on on the blowjob event.
What part of "NOT Impeachment" in the thread title are you having trouble with?
Then why did the mention Clinton?
Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 7:28 pm"They started it," is that what you want to go with? When was the last time that worked for you? Just because someone else ... *sigh* Just knock it off, okay?
Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 8:05 pmPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:11 pmFarnhamia wrote:The Black Forrest wrote:
That's the thing of it. People said " but he committed perjury!!!!!" Yes; that is a bad thing. However, it was for a question that didn't need to be raised. How was the US threatened by this?
People forget the investigation started because of Whitewater and when they couldn't get a case for that; they leaped on on the blowjob event.
What part of "NOT Impeachment" in the thread title are you having trouble with?
The fact that discussing a president who has been impeached will intrinsically involve his impeachment and trying to separate it into two different discussions where in one we never mention it is intrinsically silly and means that this is your life now.
Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:13 pmCannot think of a name wrote:Farnhamia wrote:What part of "NOT Impeachment" in the thread title are you having trouble with?
The fact that discussing a president who has been impeached will intrinsically involve his impeachment and trying to separate it into two different discussions where in one we never mention it is intrinsically silly and means that this is your life now.
Yes, but with a perfectly good impeachment thread right there, it should be simple for someone to say, "Yes, but we should take this over to the impeachment thread." And trust me, you have no idea what my life is like now.
Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:39 pmFarnhamia wrote:Cannot think of a name wrote:The fact that discussing a president who has been impeached will intrinsically involve his impeachment and trying to separate it into two different discussions where in one we never mention it is intrinsically silly and means that this is your life now.
Yes, but with a perfectly good impeachment thread right there, it should be simple for someone to say, "Yes, but we should take this over to the impeachment thread." And trust me, you have no idea what my life is like now.
So we can't just merge or move the impeachment thread here because...?
Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:45 pmNew haven america wrote:Farnhamia wrote:Yes, but with a perfectly good impeachment thread right there, it should be simple for someone to say, "Yes, but we should take this over to the impeachment thread." And trust me, you have no idea what my life is like now.
So we can't just merge or move the impeachment thread here because...?
Because it would create an almost 600 page thread? I set it up this way because I thought keeping the two apart would keep the topics in one thread from muddying the arguments in the other. No one seemed to object. *shrug* Go open a request in Moderation and let one of the other Mods make a decision. I don't really care.
And I shouldn't tell you this, but we're considering instituting forum-wide megathreads, rolling up threads that start with specific letters of the alphabet into one. All the As, all the Bs, you know. So combining impeachment and not impeachment wouldn't really matter.
Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2020 12:14 amWell that's a nifty idea. How long will the II and GA posters last do you think, trying to find their posts amongst the pages and pages of General spam debate ...
Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2020 10:24 amThe Black Forrest wrote:Uhhuh. Ok.
I'll admit to engaging in the threadjack as well but I ducked out of that argument principally because we're not supposed to talk about impeachment here. So it wasn't just you. We were all very naughty and Farn was just giving us a gentle suggestion to get back on topic before she got out the mod swatter. Anyway, I'm back at uni so expect eco-post soon.
Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:21 amWest Leas Oros 2 wrote:Again, why didn't we kill this guy discreetly? I know how Trump loves his ego boosts, but lives are on the line.
Beacuse Trump is a fucking moron.
Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2020 12:03 pmWest Leas Oros 2 wrote:Again, why didn't we kill this guy discreetly? I know how Trump loves his ego boosts, but lives are on the line.
Even if we hadn't killed him and someone else had, Iran would still have blamed us and acted accordingly. Really, Trump's stumble was in casting aside his plausible deniability and we might not even have had that given the circumstances.
Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2020 12:06 pmWest Leas Oros 2 wrote:Again, why didn't we kill this guy discreetly? I know how Trump loves his ego boosts, but lives are on the line.
Because Trump wanted to make an example of him for mocking him on Twitter, against the advice of just about everyone at the DoD.
Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2020 12:13 pmPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2020 12:17 pmPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2020 12:23 pmAnd the whole idea for detaining migrants masterminded by an alleged Jew. What a shitstorm.