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Should Donald Trump be impeached?

Yes, and he should be removed from office and prosecuted.
174
50%
Yes, and he should be removed from office but not prosecuted.
19
5%
Yes, and he should be impeached but not removed from office.
3
1%
Neutral/Unsure/Meh
14
4%
No, he shouldn't be impeached, let the 2020 Election decide his fate.
44
13%
No, he shouldn't be impeached as his actions don't warrant impeachment.
33
10%
No, he shouldn't be impeached as the impeachment inquiry is politically motivated.
60
17%
 
Total votes : 347

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Miami Shores
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Postby Miami Shores » Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:24 pm

Will Trump lead a right wing military or civilian Coup D'état if he looses the 2020 elections, a sort of civil war ? I say no.
lol - I am the worlds greatest insomniac, I beat the worlds record every day. All threads and regions need multi choice Public and Private Polls, it can be done but Mods don't want to. I love math statistics and accounting my profession. Retired home bought and paid for, own 2 rental properties. Many vacations in Miami Beach hotels, Niagara Falls Canada, Puerto Rico, Puerto Plata and Punta Cana Dominican Republic. I am not rich but I am not poor, over all not bad. Proud conservative Republican native Cuban and American citizen supporter of President Trump. President Ronald Reagan the greatest American President of the USA ever and the original Make America Great Again President. President Trump the second greatest American President of the USA ever.

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Postby The Black Forrest » Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:26 pm

Telconi wrote:
Aureumterra wrote:This is the reason why replacing the constitution is a horrible idea (not a personal thing, I’m just pointing out that there will be severe disagreement over everything)


We'd never get a new one.


Would you trust this batch to write a good one? I wouldn’t.
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* There is actually a War on Christmas. But Christmas started it, with it's unparalleled aggression against the Thanksgiving Holiday, and now Christmas has seized much Lebensraum in November, and are pushing into October. The rest of us seek to repel these invaders, and push them back to the status quo ante bellum Black Friday border. -Trotskylvania
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Postby Miami Shores » Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:28 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Telconi wrote:
We'd never get a new one.


Would you trust this batch to write a good one? I wouldn’t.

Yeah I would not trust the leftist Democrats input.
lol - I am the worlds greatest insomniac, I beat the worlds record every day. All threads and regions need multi choice Public and Private Polls, it can be done but Mods don't want to. I love math statistics and accounting my profession. Retired home bought and paid for, own 2 rental properties. Many vacations in Miami Beach hotels, Niagara Falls Canada, Puerto Rico, Puerto Plata and Punta Cana Dominican Republic. I am not rich but I am not poor, over all not bad. Proud conservative Republican native Cuban and American citizen supporter of President Trump. President Ronald Reagan the greatest American President of the USA ever and the original Make America Great Again President. President Trump the second greatest American President of the USA ever.

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Postby The Black Forrest » Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:28 pm

Miami Shores wrote:Will Trump lead a right wing military or civilian Coup D'état if he looses the 2020 elections, a sort of civil war ? I say no.


Talk to is cheap so that is what he does.

He can try and will be quickly disappointed many “loyalists” in the military and the secret service are more loyal to the office then the person. Sure there will be some who would consider it; their numbers are way too small.
*I am a master proofreader after I click Submit.
* There is actually a War on Christmas. But Christmas started it, with it's unparalleled aggression against the Thanksgiving Holiday, and now Christmas has seized much Lebensraum in November, and are pushing into October. The rest of us seek to repel these invaders, and push them back to the status quo ante bellum Black Friday border. -Trotskylvania
* Silence Is Golden But Duct Tape Is Silver.
* I felt like Ayn Rand cornered me at a party, and three minutes in I found my first objection to what she was saying, but she kept talking without interruption for ten more days. - Max Barry talking about Atlas Shrugged

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Postby Bombadil » Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:30 pm

Miami Shores wrote:Will Trump lead a right wing military or civilian Coup D'état if he looses the 2020 elections, a sort of civil war ? I say no.


More likely he'll go on a Twitter tirade that will degrade him to the weak, pathetic conspiracy theorist he is.
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Telconi
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Postby Telconi » Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:31 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Telconi wrote:
We'd never get a new one.


Would you trust this batch to write a good one? I wouldn’t.


Wouldn't matter if they did.
-2.25 LEFT
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PRO:
-Weapons Rights
-Gender Equality
-LGBTQ Rights
-Racial Equality
-Religious Freedom
-Freedom of Speech
-Freedom of Association
-Life
-Limited Government
-Non Interventionism
-Labor Unions
-Environmental Protections
ANTI:
-Racism
-Sexism
-Bigotry In All Forms
-Government Overreach
-Government Surveillance
-Freedom For Security Social Transactions
-Unnecessary Taxes
-Excessively Specific Government Programs
-Foreign Entanglements
-Religious Extremism
-Fascists Masquerading as "Social Justice Warriors"

"The Constitution is NOT an instrument for the government to restrain the people,it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government-- lest it come to dominate our lives and interests." ~ Patrick Henry

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Miami Shores
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Postby Miami Shores » Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:33 pm

Bombadil wrote:
Miami Shores wrote:Will Trump lead a right wing military or civilian Coup D'état if he looses the 2020 elections, a sort of civil war ? I say no.


More likely he'll go on a Twitter tirade that will degrade him to the weak, pathetic conspiracy theorist he is.

I agree with you on the Twitter tirade under the circumstances I hope does not happen, but I strongly disagree with you on the to the weak, pathetic conspiracy theorist he is.
lol - I am the worlds greatest insomniac, I beat the worlds record every day. All threads and regions need multi choice Public and Private Polls, it can be done but Mods don't want to. I love math statistics and accounting my profession. Retired home bought and paid for, own 2 rental properties. Many vacations in Miami Beach hotels, Niagara Falls Canada, Puerto Rico, Puerto Plata and Punta Cana Dominican Republic. I am not rich but I am not poor, over all not bad. Proud conservative Republican native Cuban and American citizen supporter of President Trump. President Ronald Reagan the greatest American President of the USA ever and the original Make America Great Again President. President Trump the second greatest American President of the USA ever.

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Postby Duhon » Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:38 pm

Miami Shores wrote:
Bombadil wrote:
More likely he'll go on a Twitter tirade that will degrade him to the weak, pathetic conspiracy theorist he is.

I agree with you on the Twitter tirade under the circumstances I hope does not happen, but I strongly disagree with you on the to the weak, pathetic conspiracy theorist he is.


he literally peddled that birther bullshit dude
dude

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Bombadil
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Postby Bombadil » Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:40 pm

Miami Shores wrote:
Bombadil wrote:
More likely he'll go on a Twitter tirade that will degrade him to the weak, pathetic conspiracy theorist he is.

I agree with you on the Twitter tirade under the circumstances I hope does not happen, but I strongly disagree with you on the to the weak, pathetic conspiracy theorist he is.


His belief climate change is a Chinese hoax and the whole birther conspiracy makes him a conspiracy theorist alone.

There was a podcast with an executive from Trump who said he changed in the late 80s after the whole bankruptcy issue where he started to believe the entire world was out to get him, starting his slow slip into paranoia indicated by his petty lashing out at anything he considers a slight to his 'great and unmatched brain'.

What Are Signs Of Paranoia?
Symptoms of paranoia and delusional disorders include intense and irrational mistrust or suspicion, which can bring on sense of fear, anger, and betrayal. Some identifiable beliefs and behaviors of individuals with symptoms of paranoia include mistrust, hypervigilence, difficulty with forgiveness, defensive attitude in response to imagined criticism, preoccupation with hidden motives, fear of being deceived or taken advantage of, inability to relax, or are argumentative.


Hmm..
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Postby Miami Shores » Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:52 pm

Bombadil wrote:
Miami Shores wrote:I agree with you on the Twitter tirade under the circumstances I hope does not happen, but I strongly disagree with you on the to the weak, pathetic conspiracy theorist he is.


His belief climate change is a Chinese hoax and the whole birther conspiracy makes him a conspiracy theorist alone.

There was a podcast with an executive from Trump who said he changed in the late 80s after the whole bankruptcy issue where he started to believe the entire world was out to get him, starting his slow slip into paranoia indicated by his petty lashing out at anything he considers a slight to his 'great and unmatched brain'.

What Are Signs Of Paranoia?
Symptoms of paranoia and delusional disorders include intense and irrational mistrust or suspicion, which can bring on sense of fear, anger, and betrayal. Some identifiable beliefs and behaviors of individuals with symptoms of paranoia include mistrust, hypervigilence, difficulty with forgiveness, defensive attitude in response to imagined criticism, preoccupation with hidden motives, fear of being deceived or taken advantage of, inability to relax, or are argumentative.


Hmm..

lol again, I declared my self a birther on the Obama birther threads on NS. The leftist Democrats do hate Trump and this partisan impeachment attempt against Trump to weaken him politically is political, lets not keep denying this, if it were not political their would be at least some Democrats who would believe Trump might not be guilty as charged by the Democrats especially during an election season.

I would be angry, mad, defensive and paranoid too, if I were President of America, the USA, and I would fight hard against the Democrats Partisan impeachment attempt like President Trump.

I think so would you, so would I and so would we, if we were President of America and we were being impeached by partisans especially during an election season.
lol - I am the worlds greatest insomniac, I beat the worlds record every day. All threads and regions need multi choice Public and Private Polls, it can be done but Mods don't want to. I love math statistics and accounting my profession. Retired home bought and paid for, own 2 rental properties. Many vacations in Miami Beach hotels, Niagara Falls Canada, Puerto Rico, Puerto Plata and Punta Cana Dominican Republic. I am not rich but I am not poor, over all not bad. Proud conservative Republican native Cuban and American citizen supporter of President Trump. President Ronald Reagan the greatest American President of the USA ever and the original Make America Great Again President. President Trump the second greatest American President of the USA ever.

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Postby Bombadil » Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:54 pm

Miami Shores wrote:
Bombadil wrote:
His belief climate change is a Chinese hoax and the whole birther conspiracy makes him a conspiracy theorist alone.

There was a podcast with an executive from Trump who said he changed in the late 80s after the whole bankruptcy issue where he started to believe the entire world was out to get him, starting his slow slip into paranoia indicated by his petty lashing out at anything he considers a slight to his 'great and unmatched brain'.

What Are Signs Of Paranoia?
Symptoms of paranoia and delusional disorders include intense and irrational mistrust or suspicion, which can bring on sense of fear, anger, and betrayal. Some identifiable beliefs and behaviors of individuals with symptoms of paranoia include mistrust, hypervigilence, difficulty with forgiveness, defensive attitude in response to imagined criticism, preoccupation with hidden motives, fear of being deceived or taken advantage of, inability to relax, or are argumentative.


Hmm..

lol again, I declared my self a birther on the Obama birther threads on NS.


I don't know what kind of defence you think that is.
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Postby Miami Shores » Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:56 pm

Bombadil wrote:
Miami Shores wrote:lol again, I declared my self a birther on the Obama birther threads on NS.


I don't know what kind of defence you think that is.

I think it was a very clear great defense, but I note your post, accept and respect your views and opinions. I see you left out my whole post which is in context.
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lol - I am the worlds greatest insomniac, I beat the worlds record every day. All threads and regions need multi choice Public and Private Polls, it can be done but Mods don't want to. I love math statistics and accounting my profession. Retired home bought and paid for, own 2 rental properties. Many vacations in Miami Beach hotels, Niagara Falls Canada, Puerto Rico, Puerto Plata and Punta Cana Dominican Republic. I am not rich but I am not poor, over all not bad. Proud conservative Republican native Cuban and American citizen supporter of President Trump. President Ronald Reagan the greatest American President of the USA ever and the original Make America Great Again President. President Trump the second greatest American President of the USA ever.

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Postby Bombadil » Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:57 pm

Meanwhile..

The former US national security adviser, John Bolton, was reportedly so alarmed at a back channel effort to pressure Ukraine to investigate Donald Trump’s political rivals that he told a senior aide to report it to White House lawyers.

The revelation of Bolton’s involvement in the effort to block a shadow foreign policy aimed at Trump’s political benefit emerged from congressional testimony given by his former aide, Fiona Hill, the former top Russia expert in the White House.

Hill said Bolton instructed her to tell the National Security Council’s attorney that Giuliani was acting in concert with White House chief of staff, Mick Mulvaney, in a rogue operation with legal implications.

“I am not part of whatever drug deal Rudy and Mulvaney are cooking up,” Bolton instructed Hill to tell the NSC lawyer, according to her testimony.

She said that Bolton had told her on an earlier occasion: “Giuliani’s a hand grenade who’s going to blow everybody up.”


If Bolton's calling you a hand grenade then, shit, that's pretty bad..
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:59 pm

Miami Shores wrote:Especially posted to Kowani, Telconi and San Lumen:

Another world leader I support lol.

President Trump and Prime Minister of Hungary Viktor Orbán have praised each other many times, are close personal friends and have great economic, political and cultural relations between both nations.

lol Hungary is not the USSR or another Cuba, contrary to San Lumen's information Hungary is still a multi political party capitalist nation of small private businesses and large corporations, its economy is doing great under Orbán and Viktor Orbán is considerably popular in Hungary.

I have read about Orbán's weak stupid socialist opposition leaders.

I follow Hungary news regularly because I have the nation of Budapest Hungary which I RP with from time to time. Chancellor Angela Merkle of Germany deals with Orbán when it suits her political and economic interests. EU Minister of Foreign Diplomatic Relations Federica Mogherini, has declared Cuba a one political party state democracy lol,

Germany has economic, political, cultural and tourist diplomatic relations with the eternal Cuban military Mafia revolutionary dictatorship regime under Chancellor Angela Merkel, during 2018 Cuba received 197 122 German tourists, they are real concerned about democracy go figure.

Orban has largely destroyed his opposition. The courts are his lapdogs. He's done a a lot of the same things Trump is attempting to do.

Orban has done what many in the GOP dream of doing. Please stop with the lol's its very irritating
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Postby Czechostan » Mon Oct 14, 2019 9:06 pm

Aureumterra wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Yeah, you can't just ban forced prison labour. That'd be tyrannical or something.

There are ways to amend parts of the constitution, scrapping it and making a new one from scratch will be a betrayal to everything the first one stood for

And the first one did maintain one of the longest lasting stable democracies that has even survived a civil war

It's funny you say that, because Thomas Jefferson argued the US ought to rewrite the Constitution every 19 years.

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Postby Telconi » Mon Oct 14, 2019 9:06 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Miami Shores wrote:Especially posted to Kowani, Telconi and San Lumen:

Another world leader I support lol.

President Trump and Prime Minister of Hungary Viktor Orbán have praised each other many times, are close personal friends and have great economic, political and cultural relations between both nations.

lol Hungary is not the USSR or another Cuba, contrary to San Lumen's information Hungary is still a multi political party capitalist nation of small private businesses and large corporations, its economy is doing great under Orbán and Viktor Orbán is considerably popular in Hungary.

I have read about Orbán's weak stupid socialist opposition leaders.

I follow Hungary news regularly because I have the nation of Budapest Hungary which I RP with from time to time. Chancellor Angela Merkle of Germany deals with Orbán when it suits her political and economic interests. EU Minister of Foreign Diplomatic Relations Federica Mogherini, has declared Cuba a one political party state democracy lol,

Germany has economic, political, cultural and tourist diplomatic relations with the eternal Cuban military Mafia revolutionary dictatorship regime under Chancellor Angela Merkel, during 2018 Cuba received 197 122 German tourists, they are real concerned about democracy go figure.

Orban has largely destroyed his opposition. The courts are his lapdogs. He's done a a lot of the same things Trump is attempting to do.

Orban has done what many in the GOP dream of doing. Please stop with the lol's its very irritating


Making Hungary Great Again?
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PRO:
-Weapons Rights
-Gender Equality
-LGBTQ Rights
-Racial Equality
-Religious Freedom
-Freedom of Speech
-Freedom of Association
-Life
-Limited Government
-Non Interventionism
-Labor Unions
-Environmental Protections
ANTI:
-Racism
-Sexism
-Bigotry In All Forms
-Government Overreach
-Government Surveillance
-Freedom For Security Social Transactions
-Unnecessary Taxes
-Excessively Specific Government Programs
-Foreign Entanglements
-Religious Extremism
-Fascists Masquerading as "Social Justice Warriors"

"The Constitution is NOT an instrument for the government to restrain the people,it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government-- lest it come to dominate our lives and interests." ~ Patrick Henry

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Postby Kowani » Mon Oct 14, 2019 9:07 pm

Aureumterra wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Yeah, you can't just ban forced prison labour. That'd be tyrannical or something.

There are ways to amend parts of the constitution, scrapping it and making a new one from scratch will be a betrayal to everything the first one stood for

And the firstsecond one did maintain one of the longest lasting stable democracies that has even survived a civil war

FTFY.
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Postby Telconi » Mon Oct 14, 2019 9:08 pm

Kowani wrote:
Aureumterra wrote:There are ways to amend parts of the constitution, scrapping it and making a new one from scratch will be a betrayal to everything the first one stood for

And the firstsecond one did maintain one of the longest lasting stable democracies that has even survived a civil war

FTFY.


We've only had one constitution tho...
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PRO:
-Weapons Rights
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-LGBTQ Rights
-Racial Equality
-Religious Freedom
-Freedom of Speech
-Freedom of Association
-Life
-Limited Government
-Non Interventionism
-Labor Unions
-Environmental Protections
ANTI:
-Racism
-Sexism
-Bigotry In All Forms
-Government Overreach
-Government Surveillance
-Freedom For Security Social Transactions
-Unnecessary Taxes
-Excessively Specific Government Programs
-Foreign Entanglements
-Religious Extremism
-Fascists Masquerading as "Social Justice Warriors"

"The Constitution is NOT an instrument for the government to restrain the people,it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government-- lest it come to dominate our lives and interests." ~ Patrick Henry

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Postby Duhon » Mon Oct 14, 2019 9:08 pm

Telconi wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Orban has largely destroyed his opposition. The courts are his lapdogs. He's done a a lot of the same things Trump is attempting to do.

Orban has done what many in the GOP dream of doing. Please stop with the lol's its very irritating


Making Hungary Great Again?


well orban made himself shit so i guess that's something

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Postby Czechostan » Mon Oct 14, 2019 9:09 pm

Telconi wrote:
Kowani wrote:FTFY.


We've only had one constitution tho...

Articles of Confederation

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Postby Kowani » Mon Oct 14, 2019 9:10 pm

Czechostan wrote:
Telconi wrote:
We've only had one constitution tho...

Articles of Confederation

:hug: I like you.
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Post-Capitalist, Post-Nationalist. Rights are functionally just privileges society has deemed important.
Seangoli wrote:You are spouting nonsensical drivel with no coherent thought, little logic, and at the end of it all just angry opining at the clouds based on a truly astonishly low level of knowledge or understanding of the subject matter.

Bloodshade wrote:The US government never cared much about bringing democracy to the Middle East. It was more about serving the interests of their favorite gas station.

0% Capitalism

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Postby San Lumen » Mon Oct 14, 2019 9:12 pm

Duhon wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Making Hungary Great Again?


well orban made himself shit so i guess that's something

cracks have started to emerge though. His party did lose several important municipalities in local elections including Budapest. Eventually people do grow tired of tactics like his. Trumps antics may finally be catching up to him. I heard at his last event in Minnesota a fair number walked out halfway through

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Postby Czechostan » Mon Oct 14, 2019 9:12 pm

Kowani wrote:
Czechostan wrote:Articles of Confederation

:hug: I like you.

"0% Capitalism"
The feeling is mutual. :hug:

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Postby Telconi » Mon Oct 14, 2019 9:13 pm

Czechostan wrote:
Telconi wrote:
We've only had one constitution tho...

Articles of Confederation


Weren't a constitution...
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-3.23 LIBERTARIAN

PRO:
-Weapons Rights
-Gender Equality
-LGBTQ Rights
-Racial Equality
-Religious Freedom
-Freedom of Speech
-Freedom of Association
-Life
-Limited Government
-Non Interventionism
-Labor Unions
-Environmental Protections
ANTI:
-Racism
-Sexism
-Bigotry In All Forms
-Government Overreach
-Government Surveillance
-Freedom For Security Social Transactions
-Unnecessary Taxes
-Excessively Specific Government Programs
-Foreign Entanglements
-Religious Extremism
-Fascists Masquerading as "Social Justice Warriors"

"The Constitution is NOT an instrument for the government to restrain the people,it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government-- lest it come to dominate our lives and interests." ~ Patrick Henry

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Postby Sovaal » Mon Oct 14, 2019 9:13 pm

Telconi wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Orban has largely destroyed his opposition. The courts are his lapdogs. He's done a a lot of the same things Trump is attempting to do.

Orban has done what many in the GOP dream of doing. Please stop with the lol's its very irritating


Making Hungary Great Again?

It's been all downhill for the Hungarians ever since they stopped raiding Europe.
Most of the time I have no idea what the hell I'm doing or talking about.

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