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Which would be your favored candidate for the 2020 Republican Party presidential nomination?

Donald Trump
47
27%
Rocky De La Fuente
5
3%
Joe Walsh
4
2%
Bill Weld
23
13%
Bob Ely
0
No votes
Zoltan Istvan
6
3%
None of the above/other
30
17%
David Hasselhoff
58
34%
 
Total votes : 173

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Necroghastia
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Postby Necroghastia » Wed Feb 05, 2020 10:55 am

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Very Fine People On Both Sides. One of which were neoNazis. He also later walked back his hostage letter apology I believe.


Yes. People like you are who I'm referring to with this statement.

Thank you for demonstrating my point.

What point?
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Wed Feb 05, 2020 10:57 am

Necroghastia wrote:
The Emerald Legion wrote:
Yes. People like you are who I'm referring to with this statement.

Thank you for demonstrating my point.

What point?

That the some 100 year (300 years if you include Peter the Great's war on Sweden) long campaign from various Russian governments to politically destroy the European and American powers are now fine for some reason.
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Postby Nakena » Wed Feb 05, 2020 11:01 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Social engineering =/= Vote tampering, just as a reminder to all the righters sneering at the allegations which were confirmed by the intelligence community. Oh right, "LOL WMDs" in 3... 2... 1...

I'm always confused as to how the entire Russian influence campaign, the most successful active measure in NKVD/MGB/KGB/FSB history (putting an incompetent buffoon who thinks he's a king in the White House) is fine according to some Americans because it allegedly "failed". Are not foreign influence campaigns seditious by their very own nature? Are we now fine with PRC'ians, ambassadors even railing against the west using every method they have because the Russians did it and "nothing much happened"?


You're giving the KGB way too much credit here.

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Postby Farnhamia » Wed Feb 05, 2020 11:04 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:What point?

That the some 100 year (300 years if you include Peter the Great's war on Sweden) long campaign from various Russian governments to politically destroy the European and American powers are now fine for some reason.

The Great Northern War was an attempt by Russia, Denmark and Poland to curb the Swedish empire in the Baltic. It was decidedly not an attack by Russia on Europe. Peter the Great wanted nothing more than to be accepted as a fellow monarch by the great powers of Europe.
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Postby Saiwania » Wed Feb 05, 2020 11:12 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:I hope the next president revokes Limbaugh's medal in disgrace. This is on the scale of Robert Mugabe getting a GCB.


Rush Limbaugh deserves the Presidential Medal of Freedom for what he accomplished. He single handedly revived AM radio in the US and was the pioneer of Conservative Talk Radio. He at minimum, has fulfilled the "cultural or other significant public or private endeavors" part of the award criteria.
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Postby Nakena » Wed Feb 05, 2020 11:13 am

Saiwania wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:I hope the next president revokes Limbaugh's medal in disgrace. This is on the scale of Robert Mugabe getting a GCB.


Rush Limbaugh deserves the Presidential Medal of Freedom for what he accomplished. He single handedly revived AM radio in the US and was the pioneer of Conservative Talk Radio. He at minimum, has fulfilled the "cultural or other significant public or private endeavors" part of the award criteria.


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Postby Duhon » Wed Feb 05, 2020 11:16 am

rush of all people getting the medal of freedom
nancy pelosi ripping up her copy of trump's speech
mike fucking pompeo tweeting a still image from mr lisa goes to washington

just what in the annals of fuck is this timeline

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Postby Nakena » Wed Feb 05, 2020 11:20 am

Duhon wrote:rush of all people getting the medal of freedom
nancy pelosi ripping up her copy of trump's speech
mike fucking pompeo tweeting a still image from mr lisa goes to washington

just what in the annals of fuck is this timeline


When things just get totally weird increasingly to the point at which everything that once thought to be forever becomes an shadow or caricature of its former self you know its near game over time. The moment when people just stop giving a fuck and the whole show comes crashing down.

I have seen that happening in many groups, communities and the likes before. It's usually a sign of things falling apart and imploding.

Theres no reason to believe this is any different in this case. Altough the stakes and the dimension is way higher.

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Postby The Emerald Legion » Wed Feb 05, 2020 11:20 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:What point?

That the some 100 year (300 years if you include Peter the Great's war on Sweden) long campaign from various Russian governments to politically destroy the European and American powers are now fine for some reason.


Not really. No. I'm not certain how you got that message aside from deliberately attempting to frame it unflatteringly.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Wed Feb 05, 2020 11:24 am

Nakena wrote:
Duhon wrote:rush of all people getting the medal of freedom
nancy pelosi ripping up her copy of trump's speech
mike fucking pompeo tweeting a still image from mr lisa goes to washington

just what in the annals of fuck is this timeline


When things just get totally weird increasingly to the point at which everything that once thought to be forever becomes an shadow or caricature of its former self you know its near game over time. The moment when people just stop giving a fuck and the whole show comes crashing down.

I have seen that happening in many groups, communities and the likes before. It's usually a sign of things falling apart and imploding.

Theres no reason to believe this is any different in this case. Altough the stakes and the dimension is way higher.


You remember the Mayans predicted the world would end in 2012? Is anyone sure it didn't and we entered the loony timeline?

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Postby Gormwood » Wed Feb 05, 2020 11:26 am

Fartsniffage wrote:
Nakena wrote:
When things just get totally weird increasingly to the point at which everything that once thought to be forever becomes an shadow or caricature of its former self you know its near game over time. The moment when people just stop giving a fuck and the whole show comes crashing down.

I have seen that happening in many groups, communities and the likes before. It's usually a sign of things falling apart and imploding.

Theres no reason to believe this is any different in this case. Altough the stakes and the dimension is way higher.


You remember the Mayans predicted the world would end in 2012? Is anyone sure it didn't and we entered the loony timeline?

We ened up on the wrong end of the Mandela Effect.
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Postby Duhon » Wed Feb 05, 2020 11:32 am

Nakena wrote:
Duhon wrote:rush of all people getting the medal of freedom
nancy pelosi ripping up her copy of trump's speech
mike fucking pompeo tweeting a still image from mr lisa goes to washington

just what in the annals of fuck is this timeline


When things just get totally weird increasingly to the point at which everything that once thought to be forever becomes an shadow or caricature of its former self you know its near game over time. The moment when people just stop giving a fuck and the whole show comes crashing down.

I have seen that happening in many groups, communities and the likes before. It's usually a sign of things falling apart and imploding.

Theres no reason to believe this is any different in this case. Altough the stakes and the dimension is way higher.


you think i haven't realized that? i've read and seen too much history, too much literature, too much, to not see that we're on the lurch

but this could've all been avoided
we were nowhere near crisis before trump
why this hell why

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Postby Myrensis » Wed Feb 05, 2020 11:34 am

Duhon wrote:rush of all people getting the medal of freedom
nancy pelosi ripping up her copy of trump's speech
mike fucking pompeo tweeting a still image from mr lisa goes to washington

just what in the annals of fuck is this timeline



On that note, why is it that Republicans have such difficulty wrapping their heads around straightforward childrens story telling?

The scene Pompeo tweeted to ding Pelosi was literally Lisa crying and ripping up an essay because she'd become disillusioned about corruption in government...which does fit what Pelosi did, but not in the way Pompeo thinks.

Reminded me of Ted Cruz reading Green Eggs and Ham in protest of the ACA, when the literal point of the story is that the guy is being willful and stubborn and refusing to try something...then actually likes it when he finally does.

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Postby The Emerald Legion » Wed Feb 05, 2020 11:35 am

Duhon wrote:
Nakena wrote:
When things just get totally weird increasingly to the point at which everything that once thought to be forever becomes an shadow or caricature of its former self you know its near game over time. The moment when people just stop giving a fuck and the whole show comes crashing down.

I have seen that happening in many groups, communities and the likes before. It's usually a sign of things falling apart and imploding.

Theres no reason to believe this is any different in this case. Altough the stakes and the dimension is way higher.


you think i haven't realized that? i've read and seen too much history, too much literature, too much, to not see that we're on the lurch

but this could've all been avoided
we were nowhere near crisis before trump
why this hell why


We've been in Crisis for a long time. Hell, Obama's whole schtick was that we needed to manage our decline to minimize the damage on the way down.
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Postby Gormwood » Wed Feb 05, 2020 11:35 am

Myrensis wrote:
Duhon wrote:rush of all people getting the medal of freedom
nancy pelosi ripping up her copy of trump's speech
mike fucking pompeo tweeting a still image from mr lisa goes to washington

just what in the annals of fuck is this timeline



On that note, why is it that Republicans have such difficulty wrapping their heads around straightforward childrens story telling?

The scene Pompeo tweeted to ding Pelosi was literally Lisa crying and ripping up an essay because she'd become disillusioned about corruption in government...which does fit what Pelosi did, but not in the way Pompeo thinks.

Reminded me of Ted Cruz reading Green Eggs and Ham in protest of the ACA, when the literal point of the story is that the guy is being willful and stubborn and refusing to try something...then actually likes it when he finally does.

Storytelling are for ivory tower liberal elites.
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Postby Gormwood » Wed Feb 05, 2020 11:37 am

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Duhon wrote:
you think i haven't realized that? i've read and seen too much history, too much literature, too much, to not see that we're on the lurch

but this could've all been avoided
we were nowhere near crisis before trump
why this hell why


We've been in Crisis for a long time. Hell, Obama's whole schtick was that we needed to manage our decline to minimize the damage on the way down.

And then the GOP kneeled before Don just in time to follow him in one flash mob Slim Pickens impression.
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Postby Nakena » Wed Feb 05, 2020 11:39 am

Fartsniffage wrote:
Nakena wrote:
When things just get totally weird increasingly to the point at which everything that once thought to be forever becomes an shadow or caricature of its former self you know its near game over time. The moment when people just stop giving a fuck and the whole show comes crashing down.

I have seen that happening in many groups, communities and the likes before. It's usually a sign of things falling apart and imploding.

Theres no reason to believe this is any different in this case. Altough the stakes and the dimension is way higher.


You remember the Mayans predicted the world would end in 2012? Is anyone sure it didn't and we entered the loony timeline?


I am not tbh.

Duhon wrote:
Nakena wrote:
When things just get totally weird increasingly to the point at which everything that once thought to be forever becomes an shadow or caricature of its former self you know its near game over time. The moment when people just stop giving a fuck and the whole show comes crashing down.

I have seen that happening in many groups, communities and the likes before. It's usually a sign of things falling apart and imploding.

Theres no reason to believe this is any different in this case. Altough the stakes and the dimension is way higher.


you think i haven't realized that? i've read and seen too much history, too much literature, too much, to not see that we're on the lurch

but this could've all been avoided
we were nowhere near crisis before trump
why this hell why


Trump is the harbinger not the cause. The crisis developed already in the two years before and reached it's climax in 2016. Now it's just the fallout hitting and things spiraling out of control aimlessy. The next level hasn't yet been reached.

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Postby Cisairse » Wed Feb 05, 2020 11:41 am

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The Black Forrest wrote:Example?


The idea that Trump never clearly condemned white supremacists after Charlottesville. When he did. Very clearly.

Russian election 'hacking.'

Etc etc.


Russia indisputably and undoubtedly interfered in the 2016 election.
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Postby Duhon » Wed Feb 05, 2020 11:41 am

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Duhon wrote:
you think i haven't realized that? i've read and seen too much history, too much literature, too much, to not see that we're on the lurch

but this could've all been avoided
we were nowhere near crisis before trump
why this hell why


We've been in Crisis for a long time. Hell, Obama's whole schtick was that we needed to manage our decline to minimize the damage on the way down.


you needed to extricate yourselves from your wars and rejigger the economy and the politics to be more sustainable in the long run

common fucking sense, not crisis mode

trump was crisis mode, and he could've been avoided -- all these dominos the world over toppling could've been avoided -- if people knew what common sense is

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Postby Gormwood » Wed Feb 05, 2020 11:43 am

Cisairse wrote:
The Emerald Legion wrote:
The idea that Trump never clearly condemned white supremacists after Charlottesville. When he did. Very clearly.

Russian election 'hacking.'

Etc etc.


Russia indisputably and undoubtedly interfered in the 2016 election.

Right-wingers love to pretend Russia was accused of vote rigging as opposed to social engineering to soothe themselves with the fantasy that it never happened.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Wed Feb 05, 2020 12:03 pm

Gormwood wrote:
The Emerald Legion wrote:
We've been in Crisis for a long time. Hell, Obama's whole schtick was that we needed to manage our decline to minimize the damage on the way down.

And then the GOP kneeled before Don just in time to follow him in one flash mob Slim Pickens impression.

Slim Pickins had a number of notable roles, you have to use Colonel Kong.
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Postby Valrifell » Wed Feb 05, 2020 12:07 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Nakena wrote:
When things just get totally weird increasingly to the point at which everything that once thought to be forever becomes an shadow or caricature of its former self you know its near game over time. The moment when people just stop giving a fuck and the whole show comes crashing down.

I have seen that happening in many groups, communities and the likes before. It's usually a sign of things falling apart and imploding.

Theres no reason to believe this is any different in this case. Altough the stakes and the dimension is way higher.


You remember the Mayans predicted the world would end in 2012? Is anyone sure it didn't and we entered the loony timeline?


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Postby The Emerald Legion » Wed Feb 05, 2020 12:15 pm

Gormwood wrote:
Cisairse wrote:
Russia indisputably and undoubtedly interfered in the 2016 election.

Right-wingers love to pretend Russia was accused of vote rigging as opposed to social engineering to soothe themselves with the fantasy that it never happened.


No. We say that because that's literally what a lot of people believe. Not to mention that literally any foreigner offering their opinion on US politics is engaging in the same thing.
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Postby Gormwood » Wed Feb 05, 2020 12:18 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Gormwood wrote:And then the GOP kneeled before Don just in time to follow him in one flash mob Slim Pickens impression.

Slim Pickins had a number of notable roles, you have to use Colonel Kong.

The rest were too heroic or didn't convey the lemming suicide pact sufficiently.
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Postby Nakena » Wed Feb 05, 2020 12:18 pm

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Right-wingers love to pretend Russia was accused of vote rigging as opposed to social engineering to soothe themselves with the fantasy that it never happened.


No. We say that because that's literally what a lot of people believe. Not to mention that literally any foreigner offering their opinion on US politics is engaging in the same thing.


So half or more of NSG are sinister foreign agents.

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