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Which would be your favored candidate for the 2020 Republican Party presidential nomination?

Donald Trump
47
27%
Rocky De La Fuente
5
3%
Joe Walsh
4
2%
Bill Weld
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13%
Bob Ely
0
No votes
Zoltan Istvan
6
3%
None of the above/other
30
17%
David Hasselhoff
58
34%
 
Total votes : 173

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Postby The Black Forrest » Sat Feb 01, 2020 9:16 am

Northern Davincia wrote:
Gormwood wrote:And it's mostly because FUCKOBAMA. Not even sadism, just a pathological need to erase that awful black man from the timestream ever since Obama humiliated him at the White House Correspondents' Dinner (which Trump has avoided ever since taking office).

Given his conduct with white people who mock him, Obama isn't special.


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Postby Fahran » Sat Feb 01, 2020 10:59 am

Gormwood wrote:Soo basically "We Need To Get Even With Those Fuckers." Still promoting escalation.

I would say we have a vested interest in people not believing they can kill American personnel with impunity. That goes well beyond simply "getting even." The principle is more akin to peace through strength. The implied threat of retaliation for hurting our people discourages hurting our people.

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Postby Seangoli » Sat Feb 01, 2020 11:03 am

The Black Forrest wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:Given his conduct with white people who mock him, Obama isn't special.


Example?


Hillary, Pelosi, reporters, etc.

Trump is just a mean spirited megalomaniac. He requires praise for his brilliance at all times, and the most minor slight earns his undying ire for eternity. The guy holds grudges like none else.
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Postby Gormwood » Sat Feb 01, 2020 11:03 am

The Black Forrest wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:Given his conduct with white people who mock him, Obama isn't special.


Example?

I'd also like to know how many white people who mocked Trump passed laws and executive orders that he repealed out of butthurt spite.
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Postby Gormwood » Sat Feb 01, 2020 11:05 am

Seangoli wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Example?


Hillary, Pelosi, reporters, etc.

Trump is just a mean spirited megalomaniac. He requires praise for his brilliance at all times, and the most minor slight earns his undying ire for eternity. The guy holds grudges like none else.

None of whom passed laws or executive orders that Trump repealed or abolished based on his neverending derangement over the people involved.
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Postby Seangoli » Sat Feb 01, 2020 11:05 am

Gormwood wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Example?

I'd also like to know how many white people who mocked Trump passed laws and executive orders that he repealed out of butthurt spite.


The pool is fairly tiny on that one.

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Postby Gormwood » Sat Feb 01, 2020 11:07 am

Fahran wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Soo basically "We Need To Get Even With Those Fuckers." Still promoting escalation.

I would say we have a vested interest in people not believing they can kill American personnel with impunity. That goes well beyond simply "getting even." The principle is more akin to peace through strength. The implied threat of retaliation for hurting our people discourages hurting our people.

You're assuming that killing Suleimani is actually going to make them stop. It'll be a series of tits for tats that escalate.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sat Feb 01, 2020 11:09 am

Gormwood wrote:
Fahran wrote:I would say we have a vested interest in people not believing they can kill American personnel with impunity. That goes well beyond simply "getting even." The principle is more akin to peace through strength. The implied threat of retaliation for hurting our people discourages hurting our people.

You're assuming that killing Suleimani is actually going to make them stop. It'll be a series of tits for tats that escalate.

I expect another USS Cole to be next tbh. And then Tehran's going to take a nuke because Donald Trump. And then we are in WW3... that started by a war crime.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Sat Feb 01, 2020 11:14 am

Seangoli wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Example?


Hillary, Pelosi, reporters, etc.

Trump is just a mean spirited megalomaniac. He requires praise for his brilliance at all times, and the most minor slight earns his undying ire for eternity. The guy holds grudges like none else.


I still can’t purge from my brain that news shot of where they went around the table and his people had to praise him.
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Postby Gormwood » Sat Feb 01, 2020 11:19 am

The Black Forrest wrote:
Seangoli wrote:
Hillary, Pelosi, reporters, etc.

Trump is just a mean spirited megalomaniac. He requires praise for his brilliance at all times, and the most minor slight earns his undying ire for eternity. The guy holds grudges like none else.


I still can’t purge from my brain that news shot of where they went around the table and his people had to praise him.

He's established such a personality cult I'm waiting for the next RNC to open up with "Trump fhthagn, ïa! ïa!"
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Postby San Lumen » Sat Feb 01, 2020 11:20 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Gormwood wrote:You're assuming that killing Suleimani is actually going to make them stop. It'll be a series of tits for tats that escalate.

I expect another USS Cole to be next tbh. And then Tehran's going to take a nuke because Donald Trump. And then we are in WW3... that started by a war crime.


I would think an order to nuke Tehran would be refused

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Postby Gormwood » Sat Feb 01, 2020 11:22 am

San Lumen wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:I expect another USS Cole to be next tbh. And then Tehran's going to take a nuke because Donald Trump. And then we are in WW3... that started by a war crime.


I would think an order to nuke Tehran would be refused

Since when has anyone in the GOP said "FUCK NO" to Donny without making him double down like the entitled manbaby he is?
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Postby San Lumen » Sat Feb 01, 2020 11:25 am

Gormwood wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
I would think an order to nuke Tehran would be refused

Since when has anyone in the GOP said "FUCK NO" to Donny without making him double down like the entitled manbaby he is?


Because the military isn't flat out insane enough to blow up the Iranian capital

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Postby Gormwood » Sat Feb 01, 2020 11:27 am

San Lumen wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Since when has anyone in the GOP said "FUCK NO" to Donny without making him double down like the entitled manbaby he is?


Because the military isn't flat out insane enough to blow up the Iranian capital

They're not allowed to refuse his orders.
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Postby San Lumen » Sat Feb 01, 2020 11:29 am

Gormwood wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Because the military isn't flat out insane enough to blow up the Iranian capital

They're not allowed to refuse his orders.


Yes they can. An order like that can and would be refused. The military is not blindly obligated to follow any and all orders.

if they were ordered to arrest every Democrat in Congress it would be refused.
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Sat Feb 01, 2020 11:40 am

Gormwood wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Because the military isn't flat out insane enough to blow up the Iranian capital

They're not allowed to refuse his orders.

Soldiers can refuse orders which are illegal, immoral, or unethical.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Sat Feb 01, 2020 11:43 am

Gormwood wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Because the military isn't flat out insane enough to blow up the Iranian capital

They're not allowed to refuse his orders.


When it comes to missile launches without a valid reason; yes they can. Trump may want to nuke Tehran, San Francisco, whatever; his demands would be challenged and ignored if not found valid......
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Postby Saiwania » Sat Feb 01, 2020 12:32 pm

With Trump's extended travel ban, in practice it means that there will be no more Nigerians who'll become eligible for permanent residency in the US as citizens. This is most wonderful news. Stuff like this is exactly why he secures my loyalties.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics ... mmigration
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Postby Gormwood » Sat Feb 01, 2020 12:33 pm

Saiwania wrote:With Trump's extended travel ban, in practice it means that there will be no more Nigerians who'll become eligible for permanent residency in the US as citizens. This is most wonderful news. Stuff like this is exactly why he secures my loyalties.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics ... mmigration

We all saw how you stuck steady with him from 2016. :roll:
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Postby Saiwania » Sat Feb 01, 2020 12:39 pm

Gormwood wrote:We all saw how you stuck steady with him from 2016. :roll:


But I know for sure now, that we'll probably never get another President as great as Trump, in terms of delivering American Nationalism.
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Postby Gormwood » Sat Feb 01, 2020 12:42 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Gormwood wrote:We all saw how you stuck steady with him from 2016. :roll:


But I know for sure now, that we'll probably never get another President as great as Trump, in terms of delivering American Nationalism.

As long as he throws you a racist oyster cracker on occasion you'll forget everything about him that bothered you. Easily satisfied by a con man who's playing you for just another mark.
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Postby San Lumen » Sat Feb 01, 2020 12:46 pm

Saiwania wrote:With Trump's extended travel ban, in practice it means that there will be no more Nigerians who'll become eligible for permanent residency in the US as citizens. This is most wonderful news. Stuff like this is exactly why he secures my loyalties.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics ... mmigration


yeah to bad if someone is gay in Nigeria and likely to imprisoned. Tough luck to you, Sorry you were born in the wrong country

At this point why not just make a new rule that only white people can travel to the United States or become US citizens? He might as well at this point

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Postby Albrenia » Sat Feb 01, 2020 12:55 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Gormwood wrote:We all saw how you stuck steady with him from 2016. :roll:


But I know for sure now, that we'll probably never get another President as great as Trump, in terms of delivering American Nationalism.


I can only hope that you are correct on that last part.

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Postby Gormwood » Sat Feb 01, 2020 12:57 pm

Albrenia wrote:
Saiwania wrote:
But I know for sure now, that we'll probably never get another President as great as Trump, in terms of delivering American Nationalism.


I can only hope that you are correct on that last part.

Pffft. Only as long as it gives him the praise and adulation he's hooked on like a geriatric crack whore.
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Postby Eitoan » Sat Feb 01, 2020 1:04 pm

Fahran wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Soo basically "We Need To Get Even With Those Fuckers." Still promoting escalation.

I would say we have a vested interest in people not believing they can kill American personnel with impunity. That goes well beyond simply "getting even." The principle is more akin to peace through strength. The implied threat of retaliation for hurting our people discourages hurting our people.


Amen, bro.

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