MAGAThread XVII: All Things NOT Impeachment

[Fartsniffage]

Do you disagree with Donald?

So what if I did.

It's a yes or no question.

[Chernoslavia]

And so was Obama, doesn't mean I have to like either.

You were all "America, FUCK YEAH!!" when Trump ordered a drone strike on Suleimani but when Trump dismisses the damage inflicted by the retaliatory missile strike you suddenly don't like him. That's rather convenient for you.

I can support his decision to order a strike on a piece of shit who planned an attack on our embassy and dislike him for trying to limit free speech and his two face stance on the 2nd Amendment. Much like how I liked that Obama okayed the attack on Bin Laden's compound. The world isn't black and white and I unlike some people am capable of seeing some of the good that someone does despite me not liking them.

[Gravlen]

That doesn't disprove my point in the slightest. Try again.

You didn't actually make a point, nevermind a falsifiable one.

[Neu California]

Part of Trump's border wall blew over in strong winds

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51307868

Here in the golden state, even the winds hate The Donald

[Cannot think of a name]

Part of Trump's border wall blew over in strong winds

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51307868

Here in the golden state, even the winds hate The Donald

Turns out that we were getting the inflection wrong. He said "We'll build a wall and Mexico will pay for it" and we thought he meant money, but no...he was saying "We'll build a wall and Mexico will pay for it." Like a super villain would say it.

[Ifreann]

Part of Trump's border wall blew over in strong winds

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51307868

Here in the golden state, even the winds hate The Donald

The wall need another wall to protect it from the wind.

[Imperial Joseon]

Part of Trump's border wall blew over in strong winds

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51307868

Here in the golden state, even the winds hate The Donald

The wall need another wall to protect it from the wind.

Why not just tear down the wall? Tear down the wall, Mr. Trump!

[Valrifell]

The wall need another wall to protect it from the wind.

Why not just tear down the wall? Tear down the wall, Mr. Trump!

My god... Trump is only building the wall so he can have his Reaganesque Berlin Wall moment!

[San Lumen]

Part of Trump's border wall blew over in strong winds

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51307868

Here in the golden state, even the winds hate The Donald

Turns out that we were getting the inflection wrong. He said "We'll build a wall and Mexico will pay for it" and we thought he meant money, but no...he was saying "We'll build a wall and Mexico will pay for it." Like a super villain would say it.

He keeps making that claim of Mexico paying for it despite it being not true yet his cult base believes anything he says

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Part of Trump's border wall blew over in strong winds

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51307868

Here in the golden state, even the winds hate The Donald

Yet this massive waste of money, partly the reason why the Trump presidency has added even more to the US debt, is going to stop all the illegals from crossing the border? It can't even stop the big bad wolf from huffing and puffing and blowing the wall down.

[Gormwood]

Part of Trump's border wall blew over in strong winds

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51307868

Here in the golden state, even the winds hate The Donald

Yet this massive waste of money, partly the reason why the Trump presidency has added even more to the US debt, is going to stop all the illegals from crossing the border? It can't even stop the big bad wolf from huffing and puffing and blowing the wall down.

Trump keeps selling Malibu Stacys with new hats, and his base keeps wanting more.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

Part of Trump's border wall blew over in strong winds

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51307868

Here in the golden state, even the winds hate The Donald

Yet this massive waste of money, partly the reason why the Trump presidency has added even more to the US debt, is going to stop all the illegals from crossing the border? It can't even stop the big bad wolf from huffing and puffing and blowing the wall down.

Speaking of not stopping smugglers... https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51304861

[Zurkerx]

Part of Trump's border wall blew over in strong winds

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51307868

Here in the golden state, even the winds hate The Donald

Lolz, now that's great

Of course, the concrete wasn't dry so that's why it fell. But it's still a funny thing to troll Trump with.

[Gormwood]

Yet this massive waste of money, partly the reason why the Trump presidency has added even more to the US debt, is going to stop all the illegals from crossing the border? It can't even stop the big bad wolf from huffing and puffing and blowing the wall down.

Speaking of not stopping smugglers... https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51304861

And we can be sure there's more out there or being built.

[Vassenor]

That doesn't disprove my point in the slightest. Try again.

And way to miss my point.

[Fahran]

A wall has its uses but a far more useful investment would be in raising standards of enforcement and in funding more, better equipped, and more desirable personnel to detain illegal immigrants, process them in a humane way, and expedite deportation or greenlighting for residency. We have increased resources to address the stream of refugees arriving from Central America and it has led to more undocumented persons living in the United States without adequate resources to succeed and realize the American dream and, beyond that, to the inhumanities and atrocities committed by ICE and private organizations involved in immigration. As long as the alternatives are open borders or treating immigrants like animals, we're not going to get sound policy.

[Fahran]

Also, escalating the proxy war with Iran after repeated escalations and aggravations from Iran was not as unsound as left-wing pundits have made it out to be and has not brought us to the cusp of outright conventional war. Iran retaliated as expected but it's not as though they weren't having their proxies try to kill Americans and Iraqis previously. A weak-kneed response does not behoove us in this situation. And isn't anti-imperialist. It's merely appeasement in the face of Iranian hegemonic ambitions.

[Valrifell]

A wall has its uses but a far more useful investment would be in raising standards of enforcement and in funding more, better equipped, and more desirable personnel to detain illegal immigrants, process them in a humane way, and expedite deportation or greenlighting for residency. We have increased resources to address the stream of refugees arriving from Central America and it has led to more undocumented persons living in the United States without adequate resources to succeed and realize the American dream and, beyond that, to the inhumanities and atrocities committed by ICE and private organizations involved in immigration. As long as the alternatives are open borders or treating immigrants like animals, we're not going to get sound policy.

The fun part is nobody is advocating for open borders and your position sounds oddly close to the Democratic one.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

A wall has its uses but a far more useful investment would be in raising standards of enforcement and in funding more, better equipped, and more desirable personnel to detain illegal immigrants, process them in a humane way, and expedite deportation or greenlighting for residency. We have increased resources to address the stream of refugees arriving from Central America and it has led to more undocumented persons living in the United States without adequate resources to succeed and realize the American dream and, beyond that, to the inhumanities and atrocities committed by ICE and private organizations involved in immigration. As long as the alternatives are open borders or treating immigrants like animals, we're not going to get sound policy.

If you want to deport all people incapable of living the American dream, the US would be left with a population the size of Denmark’s.

[Gormwood]

A wall has its uses but a far more useful investment would be in raising standards of enforcement and in funding more, better equipped, and more desirable personnel to detain illegal immigrants, process them in a humane way, and expedite deportation or greenlighting for residency. We have increased resources to address the stream of refugees arriving from Central America and it has led to more undocumented persons living in the United States without adequate resources to succeed and realize the American dream and, beyond that, to the inhumanities and atrocities committed by ICE and private organizations involved in immigration. As long as the alternatives are open borders or treating immigrants like animals, we're not going to get sound policy.

If you want to deport all people incapable of living the American dream, the US would be left with a population the size of Denmark’s.

Literal free real estate for the 1%. Which means someone is trying to make it real.

[Ifreann]

Also, escalating the proxy war with Iran after repeated escalations and aggravations from Iran was not as unsound as left-wing pundits have made it out to be and has not brought us to the cusp of outright conventional war. Iran retaliated as expected but it's not as though they weren't having their proxies try to kill Americans and Iraqis previously. A weak-kneed response does not behoove us in this situation. And isn't anti-imperialist. It's merely appeasement in the face of Iranian hegemonic ambitions.

Pretending that no one was injured in an attack that in fact injured dozens of US service members requires the strongest of knees.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

Also, escalating the proxy war with Iran after repeated escalations and aggravations from Iran was not as unsound as left-wing pundits have made it out to be and has not brought us to the cusp of outright conventional war. Iran retaliated as expected but it's not as though they weren't having their proxies try to kill Americans and Iraqis previously. A weak-kneed response does not behoove us in this situation. And isn't anti-imperialist. It's merely appeasement in the face of Iranian hegemonic ambitions.

Where two hegemons fight, two are at fault.

[Fahran]

The fun part is nobody is advocating for open borders and your position sounds oddly close to the Democratic one.

I'm not advocating for the abolition of the agency tasked with enforcing immigration policies. I'm being in generous in assuming that Democrats aren't going to simply reconstitute ICE or agencies equivalent to it in a hopeless and expensive shell game that leaves us exactly where we were before.

Pretending that no one was injured in an attack that in fact injured dozens of US service members requires the strongest of knees.

Actually, retaliating requires stronger knees than many on the left seem to possess at the moment though I imagine they'll become more hawkish if and when Biden or Bloomberg gets into office. And the more dedicated anti-war leftists can going back to complaining about imperialism while giving the IRI free rein to exert hegemony over Iraq, Syria, and Yemen. Trump's still spineless but he's not coming out the worst here.

[Gormwood]

Also, escalating the proxy war with Iran after repeated escalations and aggravations from Iran was not as unsound as left-wing pundits have made it out to be and has not brought us to the cusp of outright conventional war. Iran retaliated as expected but it's not as though they weren't having their proxies try to kill Americans and Iraqis previously. A weak-kneed response does not behoove us in this situation. And isn't anti-imperialist. It's merely appeasement in the face of Iranian hegemonic ambitions.

Pretending that no one was injured in an attack that in fact injured dozens of US service members requires the strongest of knees.

More like 50 or so. And brain damage doesn't go away like a booboo.

[Fahran]

Where two hegemons fight, two are at fault.

You're assuming that the hegemons here are morally and personally equivalent. They're not.