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Which would be your favored candidate for the 2020 Republican Party presidential nomination?

Donald Trump
47
27%
Rocky De La Fuente
5
3%
Joe Walsh
4
2%
Bill Weld
23
13%
Bob Ely
0
No votes
Zoltan Istvan
6
3%
None of the above/other
30
17%
David Hasselhoff
58
34%
 
Total votes : 173

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Postby Ifreann » Wed Jan 29, 2020 11:32 am

The Alma Mater wrote:
Galloism wrote:Welp, guess we’re going to war then.


Of course not. There were no casualties. Trump said so. It is all liberal lies and alternative facts.

Brain injuries aren't real injuries.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Wed Jan 29, 2020 11:45 am

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The Alma Mater wrote:
Of course not. There were no casualties. Trump said so. It is all liberal lies and alternative facts.

Brain injuries aren't real injuries.

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Postby Chernoslavia » Wed Jan 29, 2020 1:54 pm

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Gormwood wrote:It's worse than anyone thought.

First on CNN: 50 US service members diagnosed with traumatic brain injuries after Iranian missile strike

But I bet the talking point is still going to be "NO CASUALTIES".

Welp, guess we’re going to war then.


Can't wait to see the Iran apologists on the left whine about how Iran is the innocent one in this.
What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive? Or if during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? The Organs would quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!

- Alexander Solzhenitsyn

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Postby Aureumterra » Wed Jan 29, 2020 1:58 pm

Chernoslavia wrote:
Galloism wrote:Welp, guess we’re going to war then.


Can't wait to see the Iran apologists on the left whine about how Iran is the innocent one in this.

Iran needs a counterrevolution
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Postby Vassenor » Wed Jan 29, 2020 2:18 pm

Chernoslavia wrote:
Galloism wrote:Welp, guess we’re going to war then.


Can't wait to see the Iran apologists on the left whine about how Iran is the innocent one in this.


“Why of course the people don't want war. Why should some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece? Naturally the common people don't want war: neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But after all it is the leaders of a country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or fascist dictorship, or a parliament or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peace makers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.”
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Postby Chernoslavia » Wed Jan 29, 2020 2:19 pm

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Chernoslavia wrote:
Can't wait to see the Iran apologists on the left whine about how Iran is the innocent one in this.


“Why of course the people don't want war. Why should some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece? Naturally the common people don't want war: neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But after all it is the leaders of a country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or fascist dictorship, or a parliament or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peace makers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.”


That doesn't disprove my point in the slightest. Try again.
What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive? Or if during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? The Organs would quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!

- Alexander Solzhenitsyn

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Postby Imperial Joseon » Wed Jan 29, 2020 2:19 pm

Aureumterra wrote:
Chernoslavia wrote:
Can't wait to see the Iran apologists on the left whine about how Iran is the innocent one in this.

Iran needs a counterrevolution


It'll still be a theocracy, though, so, basically, there'll be no change to their stance towards the world.
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Postby Chernoslavia » Wed Jan 29, 2020 2:24 pm

Imperial Joseon wrote:
Aureumterra wrote:Iran needs a counterrevolution


It'll still be a theocracy, though, so, basically, there'll be no change to their stance towards the world.


Atleast a bit less though. People in Iran are really getting sick of the amount of theocratic bullshittery.
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What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive? Or if during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? The Organs would quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!

- Alexander Solzhenitsyn

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Postby Imperial Joseon » Wed Jan 29, 2020 2:27 pm

Chernoslavia wrote:
Imperial Joseon wrote:
It'll still be a theocracy, though, so, basically, there'll be no change to their stance towards the world.


Atleast a bit less though. People in Iran are really getting sick of the amount of theocratic bullshittery.


Yeah, I hope it dissolves at some point. Too much extremism coming from their religion. Not that I advocate anti-Islamism.
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Postby Aureumterra » Wed Jan 29, 2020 2:28 pm

Imperial Joseon wrote:
Aureumterra wrote:Iran needs a counterrevolution


It'll still be a theocracy, though

Uh… how?
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Postby Chernoslavia » Wed Jan 29, 2020 2:30 pm

Aureumterra wrote:
Imperial Joseon wrote:
It'll still be a theocracy, though

Uh… how?


Cuz Middle East.
What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive? Or if during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? The Organs would quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!

- Alexander Solzhenitsyn

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Postby Imperial Joseon » Wed Jan 29, 2020 2:34 pm

Chernoslavia wrote:
Aureumterra wrote:Uh… how?


Cuz Middle East.


Exactly.
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Postby Aureumterra » Wed Jan 29, 2020 3:17 pm

Imperial Joseon wrote:
Chernoslavia wrote:
Cuz Middle East.


Exactly.

The main counterrvolutionary factions wants to restore the monarchy and are strictly secular, Reza Shah is very secular as well
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:09 pm

Chernoslavia wrote:
Galloism wrote:Welp, guess we’re going to war then.


Can't wait to see the Iran apologists on the left whine about how Iran is the innocent one in this.

Actually, that's closer to Trump's position. Trump maintains that Iran didn't injure any Americans in this missile attack.
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Postby Chernoslavia » Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:14 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Chernoslavia wrote:
Can't wait to see the Iran apologists on the left whine about how Iran is the innocent one in this.

Actually, that's closer to Trump's position. Trump maintains that Iran didn't injure any Americans in this missile attack.


Does Trump speak for all right wingers?
What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive? Or if during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? The Organs would quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!

- Alexander Solzhenitsyn

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Postby Gormwood » Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:15 pm

Chernoslavia wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Actually, that's closer to Trump's position. Trump maintains that Iran didn't injure any Americans in this missile attack.


Does Trump speak for all right wingers?

He's your President, yo.
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Postby Chernoslavia » Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:15 pm

Aureumterra wrote:
Imperial Joseon wrote:
Exactly.

The main counterrvolutionary factions wants to restore the monarchy and are strictly secular, Reza Shah is very secular as well


How secular was the monarchy compared to the current regime? Genuinely curious.
What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive? Or if during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? The Organs would quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!

- Alexander Solzhenitsyn

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Postby Chernoslavia » Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:16 pm

Gormwood wrote:
Chernoslavia wrote:
Does Trump speak for all right wingers?

He's your President, yo.


And so was Obama, doesn't mean I have to like either.
What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive? Or if during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? The Organs would quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!

- Alexander Solzhenitsyn

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Postby Ifreann » Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:29 pm

Chernoslavia wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Actually, that's closer to Trump's position. Trump maintains that Iran didn't injure any Americans in this missile attack.


Does Trump speak for all right wingers?

Trump is who this thread is about.
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Postby Chernoslavia » Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:31 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Chernoslavia wrote:
Does Trump speak for all right wingers?

Trump is who this thread is about.


And? That doesn't invalidate my point.
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What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive? Or if during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? The Organs would quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!

- Alexander Solzhenitsyn

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Postby Ifreann » Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:32 pm

Chernoslavia wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Trump is who this thread is about.


And? That doesn't invalidate my point.

It makes your "Not all right wingers!" point irrelevant.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:33 pm

Chernoslavia wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Trump is who this thread is about.


And? That doesn't invalidate my point.


Do you disagree with Donald?

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Postby Chernoslavia » Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:33 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Chernoslavia wrote:
And? That doesn't invalidate my point.

It makes your "Not all right wingers!" point irrelevant.


Wrong.
What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive? Or if during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? The Organs would quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!

- Alexander Solzhenitsyn

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Postby Gormwood » Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:33 pm

Chernoslavia wrote:
Gormwood wrote:He's your President, yo.


And so was Obama, doesn't mean I have to like either.

You were all "America, FUCK YEAH!!" when Trump ordered a drone strike on Suleimani but when Trump dismisses the damage inflicted by the retaliatory missile strike you suddenly don't like him. That's rather convenient for you.
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Postby Chernoslavia » Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:33 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Chernoslavia wrote:
And? That doesn't invalidate my point.


Do you disagree with Donald?


So what if I did.
What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive? Or if during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? The Organs would quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!

- Alexander Solzhenitsyn

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