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Which would be your favored candidate for the 2020 Republican Party presidential nomination?

Donald Trump
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27%
Rocky De La Fuente
5
3%
Joe Walsh
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2%
Bill Weld
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13%
Bob Ely
0
No votes
Zoltan Istvan
6
3%
None of the above/other
30
17%
David Hasselhoff
58
34%
 
Total votes : 173

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Postby Senkaku » Sun Dec 01, 2019 4:08 pm

Chernoslavia wrote:
Angshire wrote:
Your designation of other humans as "vermin" is not only dehumanizing but also shows the complete lack of compassion that is being held toward these people.


They dehumanized themselves long ago I'm afraid. But yeah I do lack empathy for them and I do not respect them. I'm not afraid to say that no matter how many people disagree and wish to label me a psycho for it.

It's nice that the attitude that helped us lose Vietnam is making a comeback.

Winning wars all by ourselves is hard when we're thousands of miles from home, and this sort of stuff doesn't win us a lot of friends.
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Postby Chernoslavia » Sun Dec 01, 2019 4:08 pm

Gormwood wrote:
Chernoslavia wrote:
Uh no not a lot of them just flatout commit murder, they do happen but those are what we call outliers, and they get punished once discovered. Except if you happen to be a patriotic atheist named Patt Tillman maybe.

Or except if a draft dodger pardons them because he likes them brutalizing darkies.


Oh so you have evidence Gallagher committed murder then, you telling us something the government don't want us to know, Agent Smith?
What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive? Or if during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? The Organs would quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!

- Alexander Solzhenitsyn

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Postby Chernoslavia » Sun Dec 01, 2019 4:11 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Chernoslavia wrote:
They dehumanized themselves long ago I'm afraid. But yeah I do lack empathy for them and I do not respect them. I'm not afraid to say that no matter how many people disagree and wish to label me a psycho for it.

It's nice that the attitude that helped us lose Vietnam is making a comeback.

Winning wars all by ourselves is hard when we're thousands of miles from home, and this sort of stuff doesn't win us a lot of friends.


Lmao that's not why we lost the Vietnam War.

And no, it's hard because we cripple ourselves half the time. You're fighting the higher ups just as much as the enemy.
What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive? Or if during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? The Organs would quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!

- Alexander Solzhenitsyn

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Postby Spirit of Hope » Sun Dec 01, 2019 4:12 pm

Chernoslavia wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Or except if a draft dodger pardons them because he likes them brutalizing darkies.


Oh so you have evidence Gallagher committed murder then, you telling us something the government don't want us to know, Agent Smith?

I mean his saving defense was "I didn't kill the ISIS fighter, the medic killed the ISIS fighter, by euthanize the ISIS fighter before I could brutalize the ISIS fighter any more."
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Postby The East Marches II » Sun Dec 01, 2019 4:14 pm

Spirit of Hope wrote:
Chernoslavia wrote:
Oh so you have evidence Gallagher committed murder then, you telling us something the government don't want us to know, Agent Smith?

I mean his saving defense was "I didn't kill the ISIS fighter, the medic killed the ISIS fighter, by euthanize the ISIS fighter before I could brutalize the ISIS fighter any more."


Don't forget the based Saddam era General proclaiming he did it :^)

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Postby Chernoslavia » Sun Dec 01, 2019 4:16 pm

Spirit of Hope wrote:
Chernoslavia wrote:
Oh so you have evidence Gallagher committed murder then, you telling us something the government don't want us to know, Agent Smith?

I mean his saving defense was "I didn't kill the ISIS fighter, the medic killed the ISIS fighter, by euthanize the ISIS fighter before I could brutalize the ISIS fighter any more."


Which the medic testified he had last I checked.
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What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive? Or if during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? The Organs would quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!

- Alexander Solzhenitsyn

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Postby Spirit of Hope » Sun Dec 01, 2019 4:19 pm

Chernoslavia wrote:
Spirit of Hope wrote:I mean his saving defense was "I didn't kill the ISIS fighter, the medic killed the ISIS fighter, by euthanize the ISIS fighter before I could brutalize the ISIS fighter any more."


Which the medic testified he had last I checked.

Yes the medic testified to that, but the medic did confirm that Chief Gallagher stabbed the captive in the neck. The medic also testified that he was worried that Chief Gallagher would do even more/worse.

Last I checked, stabbing POW's is still a big no no, and "The other guy killed him cleanly before I could torture the POW." doesn't make you stand out as a great example of an honorable soldier.
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Postby Vassenor » Sun Dec 01, 2019 4:20 pm

Spirit of Hope wrote:
Chernoslavia wrote:
Which the medic testified he had last I checked.

Yes the medic testified to that, but the medic did confirm that Chief Gallagher stabbed the captive in the neck. The medic also testified that he was worried that Chief Gallagher would do even more/worse.

Last I checked, stabbing POW's is still a big no no, and "The other guy killed him cleanly before I could torture the POW." doesn't make you stand out as a great example of an honorable soldier.


But he's a SEAL and earning the Trident means you can do no wrong, apparently.
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Postby The East Marches II » Sun Dec 01, 2019 4:22 pm

Spirit of Hope wrote:
Chernoslavia wrote:
Which the medic testified he had last I checked.

Yes the medic testified to that, but the medic did confirm that Chief Gallagher stabbed the captive in the neck. The medic also testified that he was worried that Chief Gallagher would do even more/worse.

Last I checked, stabbing POW's is still a big no no, and "The other guy killed him cleanly before I could torture the POW." doesn't make you stand out as a great example of an honorable soldier.


His testimony is contradicted by a witness of unimpeachable character.

based and redpilled general wrote:“No,” Abbas replied.

“You never saw him put the knife near the ISIS fighter’s neck?” “No,” he replied.

Abbas told the defense lawyer if had he witnessed improper conduct from SEALs, he would have taken action.

“I would have stepped in,” Abbas said.

“Had you seen Chief Gallagher do anything wrong…you would have reported it?” Candelario asked.

“Exactly,” Abbas replied. “I would have stopped him…I would be very upset.”

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Postby Chernoslavia » Sun Dec 01, 2019 4:23 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
Spirit of Hope wrote:Yes the medic testified to that, but the medic did confirm that Chief Gallagher stabbed the captive in the neck. The medic also testified that he was worried that Chief Gallagher would do even more/worse.

Last I checked, stabbing POW's is still a big no no, and "The other guy killed him cleanly before I could torture the POW." doesn't make you stand out as a great example of an honorable soldier.


His testimony is contradicted by a witness of unimpeachable character.

based and redpilled general wrote:“No,” Abbas replied.

“You never saw him put the knife near the ISIS fighter’s neck?” “No,” he replied.

Abbas told the defense lawyer if had he witnessed improper conduct from SEALs, he would have taken action.

“I would have stepped in,” Abbas said.

“Had you seen Chief Gallagher do anything wrong…you would have reported it?” Candelario asked.

“Exactly,” Abbas replied. “I would have stopped him…I would be very upset.”


Uh oh get ready to get shit thrown at you for citing Fox.
What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive? Or if during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? The Organs would quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!

- Alexander Solzhenitsyn

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Postby The East Marches II » Sun Dec 01, 2019 4:25 pm

Chernoslavia wrote:


Uh oh get ready to get shit thrown at you for citing Fox.


It's ok, I don't even think fine posters like Vassenor or Gauthier would oppose a story directly quoting the transcript. They aren't that far gone. I have faith in them :^)

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Postby Aclion » Sun Dec 01, 2019 4:26 pm

The East Marches II wrote:It's ok, I don't even think fine posters like Vassenor or Gauthier would oppose a story directly quoting the transcript. They aren't that far gone. I have faith in them :^)

You dumbass :P
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Postby Cappuccina » Sun Dec 01, 2019 4:30 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
Chernoslavia wrote:
Uh oh get ready to get shit thrown at you for citing Fox.


It's ok, I don't even think fine posters like Vassenor or Gauthier would oppose a story directly quoting the transcript. They aren't that far gone. I have faith in them :^)

I marvel at your optimism.
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Postby Chernoslavia » Sun Dec 01, 2019 4:34 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
Chernoslavia wrote:
Uh oh get ready to get shit thrown at you for citing Fox.


It's ok, I don't even think fine posters like Vassenor or Gauthier would oppose a story directly quoting the transcript. They aren't that far gone. I have faith in them :^)


Best of luck with that one.
What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive? Or if during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? The Organs would quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!

- Alexander Solzhenitsyn

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Postby Totenborg » Sun Dec 01, 2019 4:56 pm

Chernoslavia wrote:


Taking a pic with a dead terrorist corpse, smoking weed, being in possession of a training grenade? Oh no how terrible :roll:

Goddamnit, you really don't know anything about warfare, do you?
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Postby Ifreann » Sun Dec 01, 2019 5:00 pm

Angshire wrote:I still fail to understand why we have so many US troops deployed in the first place. Shouldn't other countries be pulling their weight?

Why would other countries fight your wars?
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Postby Totenborg » Sun Dec 01, 2019 5:12 pm

Chernoslavia wrote:
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"Trivial"

Hey why don't you go pose with a corpse since you're also a well-adjusted person?


I mean do you honestly think I wouldn't? Lmao.

Why don't you go stand in front of an isis fighter and shield him from gun fire?

Do you honestly not realize that the shit that Gallagher did was essentially generating propaganda for the enemy? Hell, he may as well had been printing up pamphlets for ISIS.
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Postby Tarsonis » Sun Dec 01, 2019 5:41 pm

Totenborg wrote:
Chernoslavia wrote:
I mean do you honestly think I wouldn't? Lmao.

Why don't you go stand in front of an isis fighter and shield him from gun fire?

Do you honestly not realize that the shit that Gallagher did was essentially generating propaganda for the enemy? Hell, he may as well had been printing up pamphlets for ISIS.


There were 8 other people in that photo, none of whom were charged with jack shit
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Postby Ifreann » Sun Dec 01, 2019 5:52 pm

Tarsonis wrote:
Totenborg wrote:Do you honestly not realize that the shit that Gallagher did was essentially generating propaganda for the enemy? Hell, he may as well had been printing up pamphlets for ISIS.


There were 8 other people in that photo, none of whom were charged with jack shit

Probably because none of them stabbed anyone.
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Postby Tarsonis » Sun Dec 01, 2019 5:54 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
There were 8 other people in that photo, none of whom were charged with jack shit

Probably because none of them stabbed anyone.


Neither did he, according to a jury of his peers.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sun Dec 01, 2019 6:04 pm

Why are we still talking about this guy instead of the the 3 murderers Trump has pardoned?

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Postby Spirit of Hope » Sun Dec 01, 2019 9:04 pm

Tarsonis wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Probably because none of them stabbed anyone.


Neither did he, according to a jury of his peers.

Wasn't a jury of his peers, because that's not how a military court martial works, and they said he didn't murder the ISIS fighter, they never said he didn't stab the ISIS fighter. This also ignores the whole problem with trying to do an investigation in the middle of a war zone, and the chiefs commanders covering up his crimes.

Fartsniffage wrote:Why are we still talking about this guy instead of the the 3 murderers Trump has pardoned?

Probably because it's harder to justify the pardons for the murders. Really President Trump has some bad choices in pardons, he doesn't appear to do it for any reason besides he somehow notices a person.
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Postby Totenborg » Sun Dec 01, 2019 9:22 pm

Tarsonis wrote:
Totenborg wrote:Do you honestly not realize that the shit that Gallagher did was essentially generating propaganda for the enemy? Hell, he may as well had been printing up pamphlets for ISIS.


There were 8 other people in that photo, none of whom were charged with jack shit

So fucking what? It's still gonna get American soldiers killed or, at least make their jobs harder due to alienating potential allies and inflaming tensions amongst the locals. The asshole should be stripped of rank, at the very least.
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Postby San Lumen » Sun Dec 01, 2019 9:31 pm

Totenborg wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
There were 8 other people in that photo, none of whom were charged with jack shit

So fucking what? It's still gonna get American soldiers killed or, at least make their jobs harder due to alienating potential allies and inflaming tensions amongst the locals. The asshole should be stripped of rank, at the very least.

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Postby Kowani » Sun Dec 01, 2019 9:39 pm

Tarsonis wrote:
Totenborg wrote:Do you honestly not realize that the shit that Gallagher did was essentially generating propaganda for the enemy? Hell, he may as well had been printing up pamphlets for ISIS.


There were 8 other people in that photo, none of whom were charged with jack shit

Imagine there was a diamond heist. The crew was 9 thieves, but they only charged one.
Now imagine the defense trying to argue that the police couldn’t do anything because they failed to charge the other 8.
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