MAGAThread XVII: All Things NOT Impeachment

[Proctopeo]

Republicans want to know who the whistleblower is so they can run a smear campaign and try to convince people that the impeachment proceedings are illegitimate if the whistleblower worked for the Obama administration or something like that.

Trump wants to know who the whistleblower is so he can have them killed.

lol If this were legitimate Trump would have been impeached by now. Musings about impeachment began the moment it looked like Trump was about to win. This is like "lock her up" on steroids.

orange man will use his secret space death satellite to spontaneously evaporate the whistleblower, this is a known fact
source: ligma

[Cannot think of a name]

Republicans want to know who the whistleblower is so they can run a smear campaign and try to convince people that the impeachment proceedings are illegitimate if the whistleblower worked for the Obama administration or something like that.

Trump wants to know who the whistleblower is so he can have them killed.

lol If this were legitimate

It is.

Trump would have been impeached by now.

Working on it.

Musings about impeachment began the moment it looked like Trump was about to win.

Happens to every president. Most of them manage to avoid actual impeachable offenses though.

This is like "lock her up" on steroids.

If those steroids were legitimacy.

[The Rich Port]

Republicans want to know who the whistleblower is so they can run a smear campaign and try to convince people that the impeachment proceedings are illegitimate if the whistleblower worked for the Obama administration or something like that.

Trump wants to know who the whistleblower is so he can have them killed.

lol If this were legitimate Trump would have been impeached by now. Musings about impeachment began the moment it looked like Trump was about to win. This is like "lock her up" on steroids.

Well at least you admit the Lock Her Up shit is bullshit.

Also, impeachment is a process, and after that, there's gonna be an actual trial, God willing.

Both of those things take months, if not years, to organize and execute.

Either The 36 Chambers of Pelosi Tang Clan are stalling and doing everything they can to distract Trump and his cronies until he gets unceremoniously un-elected, or they have something, they just need to get past a bunch of blind Republican sheep to do it.

Either way, old meme.

[Fartsniffage]

Republicans want to know who the whistleblower is so they can run a smear campaign and try to convince people that the impeachment proceedings are illegitimate if the whistleblower worked for the Obama administration or something like that.

Trump wants to know who the whistleblower is so he can have them killed.

lol If this were legitimate Trump would have been impeached by now. Musings about impeachment began the moment it looked like Trump was about to win. This is like "lock her up" on steroids.

Were the claims against Nixon not legitimate? Because that one took nearly 2 years from the arrest of the plumbers to Nixon resigning.

This is going like greased lightning in comparison.

[Vassenor]

Republicans want to know who the whistleblower is so they can run a smear campaign and try to convince people that the impeachment proceedings are illegitimate if the whistleblower worked for the Obama administration or something like that.

Trump wants to know who the whistleblower is so he can have them killed.

lol If this were legitimate Trump would have been impeached by now. Musings about impeachment began the moment it looked like Trump was about to win. This is like "lock her up" on steroids.

Apart from all the evidence.

[Gormwood]

Republicans want to know who the whistleblower is so they can run a smear campaign and try to convince people that the impeachment proceedings are illegitimate if the whistleblower worked for the Obama administration or something like that.

Trump wants to know who the whistleblower is so he can have them killed.

lol If this were legitimate Trump would have been impeached by now. Musings about impeachment began the moment it looked like Trump was about to win. This is like "lock her up" on steroids.

Pffft. You can thank the whiny Republicans making the Democrats gather more evidence instead of hitting impeach like an Ace Attorney game.

[Vassenor]

So has the pro-Trump narrative moved beyond "There was no quid pro quo and even if there was that isn't illegal and if it was illegal then it's not applicable to the President because reasons"?

[Eric Ciaramella]

lol If this were legitimate

It is.

What did Trump do that was impeachable?

Trump would have been impeached by now.

Working on it.

"A direct quote from Internet Explorer"

Also, 2/3 of the Senate has to agree impeachment is necessary. I don't see that happening unless some actual evidence comes out.

Musings about impeachment began the moment it looked like Trump was about to win.

Happens to every president. Most of them manage to avoid actual impeachable offenses though.

Again, you'll have to tell me what he's being impeached for. I am still not clear on this. I am not sure anyone is clear on this.

[The East Marches II]

So has the pro-Trump narrative moved beyond "There was no quid pro quo and even if there was that isn't illegal and if it was illegal then it's not applicable to the President because reasons"?

You could try reading up on it :^)

National Review and co. are only a click away!

[Fartsniffage]

So has the pro-Trump narrative moved beyond "There was no quid pro quo and even if there was that isn't illegal and if it was illegal then it's not applicable to the President because reasons"?

Last I read was Graham claiming the Trump White House as a whole was too stupid to have mens rea therefore not a crime.

[The Rich Port]

So has the pro-Trump narrative moved beyond "There was no quid pro quo and even if there was that isn't illegal and if it was illegal then it's not applicable to the President because reasons"?

I don't even know what the White House's official stance is anymore.

It's gone from "there was never quid pro quo" to "there was quid pro quo but it's not illegal" to "so it was illegal. get over it" to "there was quid pro quo, but this impeachment is politically motivated and that cancels out the quid pro quo."

[Gormwood]

So has the pro-Trump narrative moved beyond "There was no quid pro quo and even if there was that isn't illegal and if it was illegal then it's not applicable to the President because reasons"?

They're trying to shape the "He's too much of a fucking moron to do it right" defense in a way that won't make Donnie bawl like a baby denied candy.

[Zurkerx]

Republicans want to know who the whistleblower is so they can run a smear campaign and try to convince people that the impeachment proceedings are illegitimate if the whistleblower worked for the Obama administration or something like that.

Trump wants to know who the whistleblower is so he can have them killed.

lol If this were legitimate Trump would have been impeached by now. Musings about impeachment began the moment it looked like Trump was about to win. This is like "lock her up" on steroids.

Nixon's impeachment took nearly two years and he derailed about how it was Witchhunt. Tell us how that turned out for him? The only reason this is being done so fast is because we're coming up on an election year and impeachment during that time frame is unwise. Otherwise, if this happened in 2017/2018, they would take their time.

[Vassenor]

So has the pro-Trump narrative moved beyond "There was no quid pro quo and even if there was that isn't illegal and if it was illegal then it's not applicable to the President because reasons"?

They're trying to shape the "He's too much of a fucking moron to do it right" defense in a way that won't make Donnie bawl like a baby denied candy.

Or rather "he's too mentally impaired to do it but not so mentally impaired that we'll 25 him".

[Cannot think of a name]

It is.

What did Trump do that was impeachable?

Working on it.

"A direct quote from Internet Explorer"

Also, 2/3 of the Senate has to agree impeachment is necessary. I don't see that happening unless some actual evidence comes out.

Happens to every president. Most of them manage to avoid actual impeachable offenses though.

Again, you'll have to tell me what he's being impeached for. I am still not clear on this. I am not sure anyone is clear on this.

Sought to use the power of his office in order to gain information and advantage on a political opponent. And impeachment happens in the house, removal is in the senate. That's why Clinton was impeached but finished out his term.

[The East Marches II]

So has the pro-Trump narrative moved beyond "There was no quid pro quo and even if there was that isn't illegal and if it was illegal then it's not applicable to the President because reasons"?

Last I read was Graham claiming the Trump White House as a whole was too stupid to have mens rea therefore not a crime.

Is blackmail over arms a crime? Can the executive order halts to that sort of thing? This isn't bait but a real question. Congress may have signed the bill but they also have a habit of delegating everything away power wise. I'd be interested to know how these were halted in the first place.

[Cannot think of a name]

So has the pro-Trump narrative moved beyond "There was no quid pro quo and even if there was that isn't illegal and if it was illegal then it's not applicable to the President because reasons"?

They're trying to shape the "He's too much of a fucking moron to do it right" defense in a way that won't make Donnie bawl like a baby denied candy.

Well, that tactic worked for the election interference.

[Ifreann]

lol If this were legitimate Trump would have been impeached by now. Musings about impeachment began the moment it looked like Trump was about to win. This is like "lock her up" on steroids.

orange man will use his secret space death satellite to spontaneously evaporate the whistleblower, this is a known fact
source: ligma

One of his fans already tried to murder his enemies. He's stupid, but he's so stupid that he can't figure out how to try it again with someone else.

[Gormwood]

They're trying to shape the "He's too much of a fucking moron to do it right" defense in a way that won't make Donnie bawl like a baby denied candy.

Well, that tactic worked for the election interference.

This time though they can't outright say it or Donnie gonna get triggered.

[Fartsniffage]

Last I read was Graham claiming the Trump White House as a whole was too stupid to have mens rea therefore not a crime.

Is blackmail over arms a crime? Can the executive order halts to that sort of thing? This isn't bait but a real question. Congress may have signed the bill but they also have a habit of delegating everything away power wise. I'd be interested to know how these were halted in the first place.

It's not the blackmail but the seeking to use his office to get political dirt on an opponent that's going to sink him.

He would probably have been better off just asking for a stack of cash instead.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Well, that tactic worked for the election interference.

This time though they can't outright say it or Donnie gonna get triggered.

Pssst, everything triggers Donnie. They may as well say anything for the lols.

[The East Marches II]

They're trying to shape the "He's too much of a fucking moron to do it right" defense in a way that won't make Donnie bawl like a baby denied candy.

Well, that tactic worked for the election interference.

I'd pin it on Mueller's terrible final performance. He couldn't get them over the finish line and missed ez questions. The Republicans unexpectedly got a reprieve.

[Eric Ciaramella]

So has the pro-Trump narrative moved beyond "There was no quid pro quo and even if there was that isn't illegal and if it was illegal then it's not applicable to the President because reasons"?

Trump: "I want you to investigate possible corruption of a former member of our government."
Democrats: "QUID PRO QUO!! CORRUPTION!!"

Honestly people, if you want to investigate Trump go ahead. Let us investigate Biden. I want transparency everywhere, regardless of political affiliation.

[The East Marches II]

Is blackmail over arms a crime? Can the executive order halts to that sort of thing? This isn't bait but a real question. Congress may have signed the bill but they also have a habit of delegating everything away power wise. I'd be interested to know how these were halted in the first place.

It's not the blackmail but the seeking to use his office to get political dirt on an opponent that's going to sink him.

He would probably have been better off just asking for a stack of cash instead.

I had a sensible chuckle. I hope you're right and I'm sure you're right on the stack of cash. If they are really clever, they should see if Trump has any involvement with whose weapons got approved for sale. I'm sure there is something there :^)

Or if not him, somebody along that chain process.

[Cannot think of a name]

So has the pro-Trump narrative moved beyond "There was no quid pro quo and even if there was that isn't illegal and if it was illegal then it's not applicable to the President because reasons"?

Trump: "I want you to investigate possible corruption of a former member of our government."
Democrats: "QUID PRO QUO!! CORRUPTION!!"

Not how to do that.

Honestly people, if you want to investigate Trump go ahead. Let us investigate Biden. I want transparency everywhere, regardless of political affiliation.

No part of Biden's involvement is obscured.