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MAGAThread XVII: All Things NOT Impeachment

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Which would be your favored candidate for the 2020 Republican Party presidential nomination?

Donald Trump
47
27%
Rocky De La Fuente
5
3%
Joe Walsh
4
2%
Bill Weld
23
13%
Bob Ely
0
No votes
Zoltan Istvan
6
3%
None of the above/other
30
17%
David Hasselhoff
58
34%
 
Total votes : 173

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Postby Gormwood » Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:00 pm

New haven america wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:
Weren't her parents "chain migration" types?

Also, she doesn't strike me as a very nice woman, don't care what she looks like.

Yes.

Tis the sole reason Baron Trump exists.

Archetypal anchor baby.
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Postby New haven america » Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:01 pm

Miami Shores wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Barron.

What a Royal Name President Trump gave his son Barron Trump as in Barron Von Trump, he is of German descent lol.

Frederick Trump was a pimp, btw.
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Postby Northern Davincia » Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:05 pm

Kowani wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:1. That's to be expected with age and plastic surgery. She was gorgeous in her younger years.
2. Cheating the system is technically legal.
3. I suppose.

Bolded for emphasis, because you seem to have missed that part.

The only major issue that I'm aware of is that she was working in the US before she had permission to do so.
New haven america wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:1. That's to be expected with age and plastic surgery. She was gorgeous in her younger years.
2. Cheating the system is technically legal.
3. I suppose.

And yet Republicans have a shit fit when Mexicans and Central Americans do it.

A broken clock is right twice a day.
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Nakena wrote:Even if Trump gets past impeachment and wins in 2020, Melania will still divorce from him in 2021.

I wish she would divorce him now.

That's harsh.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:09 pm

Miami Shores wrote:
Duhon wrote:
so you think the journalists who went to doral to inspect the service and facilities were lying, huh

typical

also what does the flag have to do with anything?

If they had or have Problems they will fix them. Look at the awesome Pics of Trump's Doral Golf Country Club Hotel Resort I Posted. The American Flag flying Proudly on the front yard is Awesome USA - USA- USA.

viewtopic.php?p=36392785#p36392785

I know and I understand you and your leftist friends hate President Trump, and their is nothing wrong with that, those are your political rights in America - The USA.

You have a right to post your anti Trump Posts and I have a right to Post my Pro Trump Posts.


You keep posting the hate comments. Most people here go to bed at night not thinking about donnie. They don’t wake up seething about donnie. The simply think he is higly incompetent. The master negotiator can’t keep people at the table and he has a great many tells. They tend to think he is corrupt as shown as by all the money they have shifted to their holdings. The guy can’t give a speech. I truly hope he does his “fireside chat”. It will be a joke. FDR? Love him or hate him; the man could give a speech. DJT can’t as he has shown he can only speak to the lowest common denominator.

Hell I didn’t like Regan; I would give his corpse a term to get rid of donnie. His dead body would accomplish greator things.

History will not be kind to DJT. He and his administration might actually give Harding’s a boost.
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Postby Northern Davincia » Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:11 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Miami Shores wrote:If they had or have Problems they will fix them. Look at the awesome Pics of Trump's Doral Golf Country Club Hotel Resort I Posted. The American Flag flying Proudly on the front yard is Awesome USA - USA- USA.

viewtopic.php?p=36392785#p36392785

I know and I understand you and your leftist friends hate President Trump, and their is nothing wrong with that, those are your political rights in America - The USA.

You have a right to post your anti Trump Posts and I have a right to Post my Pro Trump Posts.


You keep posting the hate comments. Most people here go to bed at night not thinking about donnie. They don’t wake up seething about donnie. The simply think he is higly incompetent. The master negotiator can’t keep people at the table and he has a great many tells. They tend to think he is corrupt as shown as by all the money they have shifted to their holdings. The guy can’t give a speech. I truly hope he does his “fireside chat”. It will be a joke. FDR? Love him or hate him; the man could give a speech. DJT can’t as he has shown he can only speak to the lowest common denominator.

Hell I didn’t like Regan; I would give his corpse a term to get rid of donnie. His dead body would accomplish greator things.

History will not be kind to DJT. He and his administration might actually give Harding’s a boost.

Harding is judged unfairly.
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Postby San Lumen » Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:26 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Miami Shores wrote:If they had or have Problems they will fix them. Look at the awesome Pics of Trump's Doral Golf Country Club Hotel Resort I Posted. The American Flag flying Proudly on the front yard is Awesome USA - USA- USA.

viewtopic.php?p=36392785#p36392785

I know and I understand you and your leftist friends hate President Trump, and their is nothing wrong with that, those are your political rights in America - The USA.

You have a right to post your anti Trump Posts and I have a right to Post my Pro Trump Posts.


You keep posting the hate comments. Most people here go to bed at night not thinking about donnie. They don’t wake up seething about donnie. The simply think he is higly incompetent. The master negotiator can’t keep people at the table and he has a great many tells. They tend to think he is corrupt as shown as by all the money they have shifted to their holdings. The guy can’t give a speech. I truly hope he does his “fireside chat”. It will be a joke. FDR? Love him or hate him; the man could give a speech. DJT can’t as he has shown he can only speak to the lowest common denominator.

Hell I didn’t like Regan; I would give his corpse a term to get rid of donnie. His dead body would accomplish greator things.

History will not be kind to DJT. He and his administration might actually give Harding’s a boost.

Any President before Trump is better. Regarding Harding it’s quite likely he would have been impeached for Teapot Dome had he not died in office. Republicans would likely look the other way if a similar scandal to that or watergate happened today
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Postby Miami Shores » Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:26 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Miami Shores wrote:If they had or have Problems they will fix them. Look at the awesome Pics of Trump's Doral Golf Country Club Hotel Resort I Posted. The American Flag flying Proudly on the front yard is Awesome USA - USA- USA.

viewtopic.php?p=36392785#p36392785

I know and I understand you and your leftist friends hate President Trump, and their is nothing wrong with that, those are your political rights in America - The USA.

You have a right to post your anti Trump Posts and I have a right to Post my Pro Trump Posts.


You keep posting the hate comments. Most people here go to bed at night not thinking about donnie. They don’t wake up seething about donnie. The simply think he is higly incompetent. The master negotiator can’t keep people at the table and he has a great many tells. They tend to think he is corrupt as shown as by all the money they have shifted to their holdings. The guy can’t give a speech. I truly hope he does his “fireside chat”. It will be a joke. FDR? Love him or hate him; the man could give a speech. DJT can’t as he has shown he can only speak to the lowest common denominator.

Hell I didn’t like Regan; I would give his corpse a term to get rid of donnie. His dead body would accomplish greator things.

History will not be kind to DJT. He and his administration might actually give Harding’s a boost.

President Ronald Reagan is the greatest American President ever of the United States of America The USA, and the original Make America Great Again President.

President Donald J Trump the second greatest American President ever.

Just like all of you keep posting anti Trump posts and comments with leftist sources, at least I don't question and put down those leftists sources down as wrong based on facts and my right wing sources as right based on my own facts, pun intended.

I admit that I consider myself and am President Trumps strongest supporter on NS and on this thread. But someone has to defend Poor Donnie against the leftist Democrats and never Trumpers.

Few Pro Trumpers Post on these Threads.

I am working on a long post right now quoting you, I see you are not online right now. I will send you a friendly TG my NS Friend, The Black Forest.

I happen to be the worlds greatest insomniac, I beat the worlds record every day.
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lol - I am the worlds greatest insomniac, I beat the worlds record every day. I love math statistics and accounting my profession. Retired home bought and paid for, own 2 rental properties. Many vacations in Miami Beach hotels, Niagara Falls Canada, Puerto Rico, Puerto Plata and Punta Cana Dominican Republic. I am not rich but I am not poor, over all not bad. Proud conservative Republican native Cuban and American citizen supporter of President Trump. President Ronald Reagan the greatest American President of the USA ever and the original Make America Great Again President. President Trump the second greatest American President of the USA ever.

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Postby San Lumen » Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:28 pm

Miami Shores wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
You keep posting the hate comments. Most people here go to bed at night not thinking about donnie. They don’t wake up seething about donnie. The simply think he is higly incompetent. The master negotiator can’t keep people at the table and he has a great many tells. They tend to think he is corrupt as shown as by all the money they have shifted to their holdings. The guy can’t give a speech. I truly hope he does his “fireside chat”. It will be a joke. FDR? Love him or hate him; the man could give a speech. DJT can’t as he has shown he can only speak to the lowest common denominator.

Hell I didn’t like Regan; I would give his corpse a term to get rid of donnie. His dead body would accomplish greator things.

History will not be kind to DJT. He and his administration might actually give Harding’s a boost.

President Ronald Reagan is the greatest American President ever of the United States of America The USA, and the original Make America Great Again President.

President Donald J Trump the second greatest American President ever.

Just like all of you keep posting anti Trump posts and comments with leftist sources, at least I don't question and put down those leftists sources down as wrong based on facts and my right wing sources as right based on my own facts, pun intended.

I admit that I consider myself and am President Trumps strongest supporter on NS and on this thread. But someone has to defend Poor Donnie against the leftist Democrats and never Trumpers.

Few Pro Trumpers Post on these Threads.

I am working on a long post right now quoting you, I see you are not online right now. I will send you a friendly TG my NS Friend, The Black Forest.

I happen to be the worlds greatest insomniac, I beat the worlds record every day.

No one is posting their own facts. What do you consider a legitimate news source and is everyone who is testifying committing perjury? Plus I’d like abd answer to my hypothetical
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Postby New haven america » Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:29 pm

San Lumen wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
You keep posting the hate comments. Most people here go to bed at night not thinking about donnie. They don’t wake up seething about donnie. The simply think he is higly incompetent. The master negotiator can’t keep people at the table and he has a great many tells. They tend to think he is corrupt as shown as by all the money they have shifted to their holdings. The guy can’t give a speech. I truly hope he does his “fireside chat”. It will be a joke. FDR? Love him or hate him; the man could give a speech. DJT can’t as he has shown he can only speak to the lowest common denominator.

Hell I didn’t like Regan; I would give his corpse a term to get rid of donnie. His dead body would accomplish greator things.

History will not be kind to DJT. He and his administration might actually give Harding’s a boost.

Any President before Trump is better. Regarding Harding it’s quite likely he would have been impeached for Teapot Dome had he not died in office. Republicans would likely look the other way if a similar scandal to that or watergate happened today

No.

Jackson, Wilson, Nixon, and Reagan were all worse. They were just better at hiding it (Except for Nixon).
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Postby Kowani » Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:29 pm

San Lumen wrote:Any President before Trump is better.

Except for the slavery, genocide, and corporatecrats, perhaps.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:31 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
You keep posting the hate comments. Most people here go to bed at night not thinking about donnie. They don’t wake up seething about donnie. The simply think he is higly incompetent. The master negotiator can’t keep people at the table and he has a great many tells. They tend to think he is corrupt as shown as by all the money they have shifted to their holdings. The guy can’t give a speech. I truly hope he does his “fireside chat”. It will be a joke. FDR? Love him or hate him; the man could give a speech. DJT can’t as he has shown he can only speak to the lowest common denominator.

Hell I didn’t like Regan; I would give his corpse a term to get rid of donnie. His dead body would accomplish greator things.

History will not be kind to DJT. He and his administration might actually give Harding’s a boost.

Harding is judged unfairly.


Your evidence?
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Postby Miami Shores » Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:41 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Miami Shores wrote:President Ronald Reagan is the greatest American President ever of the United States of America The USA, and the original Make America Great Again President.

President Donald J Trump the second greatest American President ever.

Just like all of you keep posting anti Trump posts and comments with leftist sources, at least I don't question and put down those leftists sources down as wrong based on facts and my right wing sources as right based on my own facts, pun intended.

I admit that I consider myself and am President Trumps strongest supporter on NS and on this thread. But someone has to defend Poor Donnie against the leftist Democrats and never Trumpers.

Few Pro Trumpers Post on these Threads.

I am working on a long post right now quoting you, I see you are not online right now. I will send you a friendly TG my NS Friend, The Black Forest.

I happen to be the worlds greatest insomniac, I beat the worlds record every day.

No one is posting their own facts. What do you consider a legitimate news source and is everyone who is testifying committing perjury? Plus I’d like abd answer to my hypothetical

I know I asked for this, what hypothetical, I don't promise that I will answer it or not.

You are the one who keeps posting to me, I am entitled to my own opinions but not to my own facts. If you can say this to me, than I can say this to you.

You are entitled to your own opinions but not to your own facts, it works both ways, and it does work both ways.

"What do you consider a legitimate news source and is everyone who is testifying committing perjury?"

What I am saying is all these testimonies are based on hearsay not on facts. I am not going to charge anyone with perjury. I hope you will accept my answer agree with it or not, and not ask unnecessarily over, and over again, like you usually do, this is my official answer.

I consider all news sources as credible, what I mean is they all have substance in their posts, but the right wing spins it to the right and the leftists spin it to the left. I can read between the lines of the right win spin and the left wing spin the substance of the posts.
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lol - I am the worlds greatest insomniac, I beat the worlds record every day. I love math statistics and accounting my profession. Retired home bought and paid for, own 2 rental properties. Many vacations in Miami Beach hotels, Niagara Falls Canada, Puerto Rico, Puerto Plata and Punta Cana Dominican Republic. I am not rich but I am not poor, over all not bad. Proud conservative Republican native Cuban and American citizen supporter of President Trump. President Ronald Reagan the greatest American President of the USA ever and the original Make America Great Again President. President Trump the second greatest American President of the USA ever.

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Postby The Black Forrest » Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:43 pm

Miami Shores wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
You keep posting the hate comments. Most people here go to bed at night not thinking about donnie. They don’t wake up seething about donnie. The simply think he is higly incompetent. The master negotiator can’t keep people at the table and he has a great many tells. They tend to think he is corrupt as shown as by all the money they have shifted to their holdings. The guy can’t give a speech. I truly hope he does his “fireside chat”. It will be a joke. FDR? Love him or hate him; the man could give a speech. DJT can’t as he has shown he can only speak to the lowest common denominator.

Hell I didn’t like Regan; I would give his corpse a term to get rid of donnie. His dead body would accomplish greator things.

History will not be kind to DJT. He and his administration might actually give Harding’s a boost.

President Ronald Reagan is the greatest American President ever of the United States of America The USA, and the original Make America Great Again President.

President Donald J Trump the second greatest American President ever.

Just like all of you keep posting anti Trump posts and comments with leftist sources, at least I don't question and put down those leftists sources down as wrong based on facts and my right wing sources as right based on my own facts, pun intended.

I admit that I consider myself and am President Trumps strongest supporter on NS and on this thread. But someone has to defend Poor Donnie against the leftist Democrats and never Trumpers.

Few Pro Trumpers Post on these Threads.

I am working on a long post right now quoting you, I see you are not online right now. I will send you a friendly TG my NS Friend, The Black Forest.

I happen to be the worlds greatest insomniac, I beat the worlds record every day.


The operative word is “source” The problem I have with many trumpers (local and relatives mainly) is the lake of sources. Fake news and the deep state are trotted out when they run out of counter arguments.

Like donnie; when corner things like “never trumper” get thrown out. I doubt donnie could defend his claim. Donnie is a piss poor leader. Even Reagan was able to get democratic support on things.

Donnie likes chaos because it would mean he would actually have to do something.
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* Silence Is Golden But Duct Tape Is Silver.
* I felt like Ayn Rand cornered me at a party, and three minutes in I found my first objection to what she was saying, but she kept talking without interruption for ten more days. - Max Barry talking about Atlas Shrugged

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Postby Northern Davincia » Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:47 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:Harding is judged unfairly.


Your evidence?

For the most part, he wasn't responsible for what his cabinet got up to, much like Grant.
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Postby Kowani » Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:51 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Your evidence?

For the most part, he wasn't responsible for what his cabinet got up to, much like Grant.

God-Tier obliviousness is not a defense, it’s an excuse.
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Postby Miami Shores » Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:52 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Miami Shores wrote:I agree with Sean Hannity:
Republicans Must Demand to Know if ‘Whistleblower’ was Deep State Operative

Source Sean Hannity - Twitter
https://publish.twitter.com/?query=http ... dget=Tweet


Sean Hannity is a low grade moron.

What matters is what the whistle blower reports.

I am the worlds greatest Insomniac, I beat the worlds record every day.

Just like you leftists defend the Democrats.

Someone has to defend poor Donnie against the leftist Democrats, and I am not even getting paid $ for it darn, but neither are you guys for defending the Democrats darn. I admit I am President Trump's strongest supporter and defender on NS, but few right wingers post on these anti Trump impeachment magathreads.

I strongly disagree with you, Sean Hannity is awesome I follow him regularly, so do other members of my Cuban American family, we even follow Rush Limbaugh, Hispanics for Rush Limbaugh.

I agree with Sean Hannity:
Republicans Must Demand to Know if ‘Whistleblower’ was Deep State Operative

Source Sean Hannity - Twitter
https://publish.twitter.com/?query=http ... dget=Tweet

According to Partisan Democrat Adam Schiff the whistleblower might not have to testify after all lol, because he now has enough evidence against Donnie. This was all a setup to start the impeachment process against President Trump. Perhaps the Deep State is helping them try to frame Donnie.

Now the Democrats and Adam Schiff can hide behind the whistleblowers safety lol, how convenient for the Democrats.

I know right wing sources are wrong and biased propaganda, and leftist sources are non partisan correct right sources, pun intended.

But I am not saying this is true and I am not saying this fake news. I am saying this is what these sources are saying:

Real Clear investigation claims the whistleblower is Eric Ciaramella, related to Joe Biden, Obama and other Democrats.

I know and understand you all hate right wing sources as wrong, biased propaganda, at least I have no problems with your leftists sources. At least I don't question the credibility of your leftist sources, at least I don't put down your leftists sources as wrong. Discuss?
https://spectator.org/blowing-the-whistle-on-the-whistleblower/
A ruling-class prodigy has made his mark spying on Americans for the CIA and Adam Schiff.
by Daniel J. Flynn

Paul Sperry of Real Clear Investigations wrote the name Eric Ciaramella on Wednesday. Not since a chained, old man uttered “Jehovah” in Life of Brian have so many people reacted with such hostility to hearing a name said.

Discovering that Eric Ciaramella tattled on the president does not rank with learning that Webster shot J. R. or finding D. B. Cooper in Al Capone’s vault. America merely lacked a name. We knew the type.

Ciaramella absconded from the National Security Council after widespread suspicion arose that he leaked information for the purpose of damaging the president he ostensibly served. At that time, Mike Cernovich wrote in an article that Medium.com later removed that “Ciaramella helped draft Susan Rice’s anti-Trump talking points before the Inauguration.” Cernovich described him as “the main force pushing Trump-Russia conspiracy theories.”

Paul Sperry notes that Ciaramella circumvented his chain of command in telling another agency of a meeting between Trump and Russians in the Oval Office a day after James Comey’s firing. This email, referenced in the Mueller report, effectively launched a “Putin fired Comey” narrative depicting the president of the United States as a marionette controlled by the Kremlin.

“And Ciaramella worked with a Democratic National Committee operative who dug up dirt on the Trump campaign during the 2016 election,” Sperry reports, “inviting her into the White House for meetings, former White House colleagues said. The operative, Alexandra Chalupa, a Ukrainian-American who supported Hillary Clinton, led an effort to link the Republican campaign to the Russian government. ‘He knows her. He had her in the White House,’ said one former co-worker, who requested anonymity to discuss the sensitive matter.”

Politico detailed the collusion between Ciaramella’s DNC operative pal and Ukraine in a lengthy report by Kenneth Vogel, now with the New York Times, and David Stern, who resides in Kiev. “Ukrainian government officials tried to help Hillary Clinton and undermine Trump by publicly questioning his fitness for office,” they write. “They also disseminated documents implicating a top Trump aide in corruption and suggested they were investigating the matter, only to back away after the election. And they helped Clinton’s allies research damaging information on Trump and his advisers, a Politico investigation found.”

Why did John Brennan assign Ciaramella to the National Security Council? What role, if any, did Ciaramella take in this particular collusion involving Chalupa and a foreign government to influence the outcome of a U.S. presidential election? Why did Sen. Rand Paul describe Ciaramella as Vice President Joe Biden’s point man on Ukraine?

The lawyers representing Ciaramella describe him as an “apolitical, civil servant,” insisting “the identity of the whistleblower is irrelevant.” This is a lie. The whistleblower’s identity matters precisely because his past partisan behavior, unbecoming of a civil servant, grabbed the attention of journalists and coaxed the White House to force him out — all several years before Paul Sperry identified him as the “whistleblower.”

“Disclosure of the name of any person who may be suspected to be the whistleblower places that individual and their family in great physical danger,” his lawyers maintain. “Any physical harm the individual and/or their family suffers as a result of disclosure means that the individuals and publications reporting such names will be personally liable for that harm.”

Liable for the harm to the leaker or for the harm to the impeachment scheme he advances?

The CIA, which placed not a single human intelligence source on the ground prior to the U.S. invasion of Iraq, managed to infiltrate the White House. To make America great again the CIA needs to understand its job as spying on America’s enemies and not Americans.

Call this a coup d’état. Call it a putsch. Call him Eric Ciaramella. Just don’t call him “apolitical” without an accompanying laugh track. ( a lol attack lol).

I Plan to Post several related posts from several sources on this issue from time to time, which I have a right too.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Fri Nov 01, 2019 10:11 pm

Miami Shores wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Sean Hannity is a low grade moron.

What matters is what the whistle blower reports.

Someone has to defend poor Donnie against the leftist Democrats, and I am not even getting paid $ for it darn, but neither are you guys for defending the Democrats darn. I admit I am President Trump's strongest supporter and defender on NS, but few right wingers post on these anti Trump impeachment magathreads.

I strongly disagree with you, Sean Hannity is awesome I follow him regularly, so do other members of my Cuban American family.
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Meh. I tried to watching him a couple times. Rather boorish individual. He does his job as talking head. Not much of an investigative reporter.


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Don’t know this guy. Scanning his publications looks like he is more about preaching to the choir then investigating the truth. Don’t know him so I can’t officially judge.
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Postby Miami Shores » Fri Nov 01, 2019 10:19 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Miami Shores wrote:Someone has to defend poor Donnie against the leftist Democrats, and I am not even getting paid $ for it darn, but neither are you guys for defending the Democrats darn. I admit I am President Trump's strongest supporter and defender on NS, but few right wingers post on these anti Trump impeachment magathreads.

I strongly disagree with you, Sean Hannity is awesome I follow him regularly, so do other members of my Cuban American family.
*snip*

Meh. I tried to watching him a couple times. Rather boorish individual. He does his job as talking head. Not much of an investigative reporter.

I strongly disagree with you, Sean Hannity is awesome I follow him regularly, so do other members of my Cuban American family, we even follow Rush Limbaugh and all the other conservative talk radio and tv show hosts, have you ever heard of Hispanics for Rush Limbaugh we have.
lol - I am the worlds greatest insomniac, I beat the worlds record every day. I love math statistics and accounting my profession. Retired home bought and paid for, own 2 rental properties. Many vacations in Miami Beach hotels, Niagara Falls Canada, Puerto Rico, Puerto Plata and Punta Cana Dominican Republic. I am not rich but I am not poor, over all not bad. Proud conservative Republican native Cuban and American citizen supporter of President Trump. President Ronald Reagan the greatest American President of the USA ever and the original Make America Great Again President. President Trump the second greatest American President of the USA ever.

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Postby Eahland » Fri Nov 01, 2019 10:20 pm

New haven america wrote:Jackson, Wilson, Nixon, and Reagan were all worse. They were just better at hiding it (Except for Nixon).

Hey, Nixon created the EPA. That's more good than Trump's ever done.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Fri Nov 01, 2019 10:27 pm

Eahland wrote:
New haven america wrote:Jackson, Wilson, Nixon, and Reagan were all worse. They were just better at hiding it (Except for Nixon).

Hey, Nixon created the EPA. That's more good than Trump's ever done.


His work with China was good. SALT.....he did some good things before his fall. Donnie really doesn’t have anything.
*I am a master proofreader after I click Submit.
* There is actually a War on Christmas. But Christmas started it, with it's unparalleled aggression against the Thanksgiving Holiday, and now Christmas has seized much Lebensraum in November, and are pushing into October. The rest of us seek to repel these invaders, and push them back to the status quo ante bellum Black Friday border. -Trotskylvania
* Silence Is Golden But Duct Tape Is Silver.
* I felt like Ayn Rand cornered me at a party, and three minutes in I found my first objection to what she was saying, but she kept talking without interruption for ten more days. - Max Barry talking about Atlas Shrugged

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Postby The Rich Port » Fri Nov 01, 2019 10:36 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Eahland wrote:Hey, Nixon created the EPA. That's more good than Trump's ever done.


His work with China was good. SALT.....he did some good things before his fall. Donnie really doesn’t have anything.


Holy fucking shit you're right.

I totally forgot.

When Scumbag Nixon is a better president than you... OOF.
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Postby Autumn Wind » Fri Nov 01, 2019 10:50 pm

What is the definition of “deep state” as opposed to, say, non-deep state? If the Republicans want to know if the whistleblower is a deep state operative, what objective standard are they using to differentiate one from a regular government employee?
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Postby The Rich Port » Fri Nov 01, 2019 10:52 pm

Autumn Wind wrote:What is the definition of “deep state” as opposed to, say, non-deep state? If the Republicans want to know if the whistleblower is a deep state operative, what objective standard are they using to differentiate one from a regular government employee?


Especially considering that Trump only picks the best of the best, and yet they're usually the ones leaking shit and testifying against him.

Is Trump the deep state and he's sabotaging himself. Is the universe a hologram of himself.
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Postby Miami Shores » Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:05 pm

The Rich Port wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
His work with China was good. SALT.....he did some good things before his fall. Donnie really doesn’t have anything.


Holy fucking shit you're right.

I totally forgot.

When Scumbag Nixon is a better president than you... OOF.

Republican President Richard Nixon of The United States of America, despite Watergate was a great President.

Democrat President Bill Clinton was a good President.

Democrat Presidents Jimmy Carter and Obama are the worst Presidents ever.

Republican President Ronald Reagan of The United States of America, the original Make America Great Again President, is the greatest America President ever.

Republican President Donald J Trump of The United States of America, is the second greatest American President ever.
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Postby Autumn Wind » Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:21 pm

Miami Shores wrote:
Democrat Presidents Jimmy Carter and Obama are the worst Presidents ever.


How?

Buchanan left his first term in office with fewer states than when he started. By what objective standard are Carter and/or Obama worse than that?
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