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Which would be your favored candidate for the 2020 Republican Party presidential nomination?

Donald Trump
47
27%
Rocky De La Fuente
5
3%
Joe Walsh
4
2%
Bill Weld
23
13%
Bob Ely
0
No votes
Zoltan Istvan
6
3%
None of the above/other
30
17%
David Hasselhoff
58
34%
 
Total votes : 173

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Postby Vassenor » Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:45 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
:rofl:


I don't know what's funny about Mr. Bremmer's and Mr. Wolfowitz's insane foreign policy execution that led to the a million or so dead.


So how is Trump doing an objectively better job?
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Postby Gravlen » Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:46 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:US Deficit nearly $1 Trillion in 2019

The deficit jumped up $205 billion from last year. Interest payments are roughly $400 billion. Obama actually lowered the deficit while Trump has more than doubled the deficit since its low point in 2015.

All that "Trump will lower the Deficit" nonsense was just that, nonsense.

No, no, you got it wrong. We all agree that deficits only matter when a Democrat is in office.
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Postby Telconi » Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:46 pm

Vassenor wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
I don't know what's funny about Mr. Bremmer's and Mr. Wolfowitz's insane foreign policy execution that led to the a million or so dead.


So how is Trump doing an objectively better job?


You know that's not how that works...
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Postby The East Marches II » Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:47 pm

Vassenor wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
I don't know what's funny about Mr. Bremmer's and Mr. Wolfowitz's insane foreign policy execution that led to the a million or so dead.


So how is Trump doing an objectively better job?


He hasn't invaded a previously stable country, destabilized the region and led to a million or so dead due to sectarian violence in it's aftermath. He'd have to invade Iran and somehow fuck up everything else in it's occupation to hit the same levels of fuck ups.

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Postby Galloism » Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:47 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
So how is Trump doing an objectively better job?


He hasn't invaded a previously stable country, destabilized the region and led to a million or so dead due to sectarian violence in it's aftermath. He'd have to invade Iran and somehow fuck up everything else in it's occupation to hit the same levels of fuck ups.

Don't you know talking about bad things makes them happen?
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Postby The East Marches II » Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:48 pm

Gravlen wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:All that "Trump will lower the Deficit" nonsense was just that, nonsense.

No, no, you got it wrong. We all agree that deficits only matter when a Democrat is in office.


Mr. Krugman told me via Twitter's infamous

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REPEAT THINGS VIA CAPS

that it doesn't matter. I'm sure he is right on this like he has been on so much else.

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Postby The East Marches II » Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:49 pm

Galloism wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
He hasn't invaded a previously stable country, destabilized the region and led to a million or so dead due to sectarian violence in it's aftermath. He'd have to invade Iran and somehow fuck up everything else in it's occupation to hit the same levels of fuck ups.

Don't you know talking about bad things makes them happen?


I am knocking on wood right now. If he does that, this whole thing is totally all my fault. I just tempted fate like a fool. I'm so sorry.

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Postby Galloism » Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:51 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
Galloism wrote:Don't you know talking about bad things makes them happen?


I am knocking on wood right now. If he does that, this whole thing is totally all my fault. I just tempted fate like a fool. I'm so sorry.

Please have yourself flogged.
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Postby Telconi » Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:53 pm

Galloism wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
I am knocking on wood right now. If he does that, this whole thing is totally all my fault. I just tempted fate like a fool. I'm so sorry.

Please have yourself flogged.


Feeling merciful today Gallo?
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Postby The East Marches II » Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:53 pm

Galloism wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
I am knocking on wood right now. If he does that, this whole thing is totally all my fault. I just tempted fate like a fool. I'm so sorry.

Please have yourself flogged.


I'll take the honorable route after such a fuck up. Do not be worried. Gentlemen it's been a pleasure.

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Postby Galloism » Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:54 pm

Telconi wrote:
Galloism wrote:Please have yourself flogged.


Feeling merciful today Gallo?

Yes, but the emperor is not as forgiving as I am.
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Postby Zurkerx » Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:01 pm

Judge says Justice Department must give House evidence from Mueller grand jury, citing ‘potentially impeachable conduct’ by Trump.

Well, this is big though I'm sure they'll appeal it. I think the Intelligence Committees should get the un-redacted version though.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:03 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
So how is Trump doing an objectively better job?


He hasn't invaded a previously stable country, destabilized the region and led to a million or so dead due to sectarian violence in it's aftermath. He'd have to invade Iran and somehow fuck up everything else in it's occupation to hit the same levels of fuck ups.

He has however:

Defunded a program that seeks out possible animal to human diseases
His FCC got rid of NN
Failed to show up at a WW1 memorial in France beacuse 'rain'
Stopped carbon observing by NASA
Made a tweet pre election that promoted Anti Vaxx nonsense
Radicalize the American Right wing
Made a tweet that started a riot Israel/Palestine
Let Turkey fuck up the Kurds
Tried to force not one but two nations to investigate political rivals
Separated children from there parents at the border
Lack of funding to the border control forcing them to use hot cages for alleged trespassers
Wants to buld a useless wall
Increased the debt to 1 trillion


And more that I probably have forgotten about

Oh, he also blamed video games for mass shootings
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:05 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
He hasn't invaded a previously stable country, destabilized the region and led to a million or so dead due to sectarian violence in it's aftermath. He'd have to invade Iran and somehow fuck up everything else in it's occupation to hit the same levels of fuck ups.

He has however:

Defunded a program that seeks out possible animal to human diseases
His FCC got rid of NN
Failed to show up at a WW1 memorial in France beacuse 'rain'
Stopped carbon observing by NASA
Made a tweet pre election that promoted Anti Vaxx nonsense
Radicalize the American Right wing
Made a tweet that started a riot Israel/Palestine
Let Turkey fuck up the Kurds
Tried to force not one but two nations to investigate political rivals
Separated children from there parents at the border
Lack of funding to the border control forcing them to use hot cages for alleged trespassers
Wants to buld a useless wall
Increased the debt to 1 trillion


And more that I probably have forgotten about

Throw in questioning the fundamental principles of the American Republic for the past 3 years in words and deeds.
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Postby Mettaton-EX » Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:09 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
He hasn't invaded a previously stable country, destabilized the region and led to a million or so dead due to sectarian violence in it's aftermath. He'd have to invade Iran and somehow fuck up everything else in it's occupation to hit the same levels of fuck ups.

He has however:

Defunded a program that seeks out possible animal to human diseases
His FCC got rid of NN
Failed to show up at a WW1 memorial in France beacuse 'rain'
Stopped carbon observing by NASA
Made a tweet pre election that promoted Anti Vaxx nonsense
Radicalize the American Right wing
Made a tweet that started a riot Israel/Palestine
Let Turkey fuck up the Kurds
Tried to force not one but two nations to investigate political rivals
Separated children from there parents at the border
Lack of funding to the border control forcing them to use hot cages for alleged trespassers
Wants to buld a useless wall
Increased the debt to 1 trillion


And more that I probably have forgotten about

Oh, he also blamed video games for mass shootings


+ more than tripled the number of u.s. drone murders of civilians in 2017 over 2016; scrapped reporting requirements shortly afterwards
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Postby The East Marches II » Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:11 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
He hasn't invaded a previously stable country, destabilized the region and led to a million or so dead due to sectarian violence in it's aftermath. He'd have to invade Iran and somehow fuck up everything else in it's occupation to hit the same levels of fuck ups.

He has however:

Defunded a program that seeks out possible animal to human diseases
His FCC got rid of NN
Failed to show up at a WW1 memorial in France beacuse 'rain'
Stopped carbon observing by NASA
Made a tweet pre election that promoted Anti Vaxx nonsense
Radicalize the American Right wing
Made a tweet that started a riot Israel/Palestine
Let Turkey fuck up the Kurds
Tried to force not one but two nations to investigate political rivals
Separated children from there parents at the border
Lack of funding to the border control forcing them to use hot cages for alleged trespassers
Wants to buld a useless wall
Increased the debt to 1 trillion


And more that I probably have forgotten about

Oh, he also blamed video games for mass shootings


All fair points even if I disagree with some of them. I suppose Trump should be glad the bar was set so low :^)

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Postby The East Marches II » Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:14 pm

Mettaton-EX wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:He has however:

Defunded a program that seeks out possible animal to human diseases
His FCC got rid of NN
Failed to show up at a WW1 memorial in France beacuse 'rain'
Stopped carbon observing by NASA
Made a tweet pre election that promoted Anti Vaxx nonsense
Radicalize the American Right wing
Made a tweet that started a riot Israel/Palestine
Let Turkey fuck up the Kurds
Tried to force not one but two nations to investigate political rivals
Separated children from there parents at the border
Lack of funding to the border control forcing them to use hot cages for alleged trespassers
Wants to buld a useless wall
Increased the debt to 1 trillion


And more that I probably have forgotten about

Oh, he also blamed video games for mass shootings


+ more than tripled the number of u.s. drone murders of civilians in 2017 over 2016; scrapped reporting requirements shortly afterwards


Has he killed Americans yet?

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Postby Annihilators of Chan Island » Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:21 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:He has however:

Defunded a program that seeks out possible animal to human diseases
His FCC got rid of NN
Failed to show up at a WW1 memorial in France beacuse 'rain'
Stopped carbon observing by NASA
Made a tweet pre election that promoted Anti Vaxx nonsense
Radicalize the American Right wing
Made a tweet that started a riot Israel/Palestine
Let Turkey fuck up the Kurds
Tried to force not one but two nations to investigate political rivals
Separated children from there parents at the border
Lack of funding to the border control forcing them to use hot cages for alleged trespassers
Wants to buld a useless wall
Increased the debt to 1 trillion


And more that I probably have forgotten about

Throw in questioning the fundamental principles of the American Republic for the past 3 years in words and deeds.


Seized food shipments into a country undergoing famine.
Vetoed a resolution to stop arming a country committing genocide.
Cut funding for the EPA by 70%
Enacted tariffs on America's own allies
Lies so often that there are literally websites dedicated to tracking how many thousands of them he tells
Undertook a military operation against the advice of both the generals and the former president which ended in the deaths many civilians, including a 5 year old girl, and a navy seal
Has drastically increased drone strikes
Supported, appointed or encouraged numerous people with criminal allegations, including one to the supreme court
Increased the money and influence of the military
Is the first president in history to not divest himself of pre-existing businesses, and on top of that is quite possibly allowing foreign governments to bribe him through these properties.

And, finally;

Distracts the press with stupid typos on Twitter.
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Postby Telconi » Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:23 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:He has however:

Defunded a program that seeks out possible animal to human diseases
His FCC got rid of NN
Failed to show up at a WW1 memorial in France beacuse 'rain'
Stopped carbon observing by NASA
Made a tweet pre election that promoted Anti Vaxx nonsense
Radicalize the American Right wing
Made a tweet that started a riot Israel/Palestine
Let Turkey fuck up the Kurds
Tried to force not one but two nations to investigate political rivals
Separated children from there parents at the border
Lack of funding to the border control forcing them to use hot cages for alleged trespassers
Wants to buld a useless wall
Increased the debt to 1 trillion


And more that I probably have forgotten about

Throw in questioning the fundamental principles of the American Republic for the past 3 years in words and deeds.


If anyone has been alive and awake for the last twenty years and wasn't questioning the fundamental principles of the American Republic, that's on them.
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Postby Annihilators of Chan Island » Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:26 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
Mettaton-EX wrote:
+ more than tripled the number of u.s. drone murders of civilians in 2017 over 2016; scrapped reporting requirements shortly afterwards


Has he killed Americans yet?


Yes.

https://theintercept.com/2017/01/30/oba ... ld-sister/

Though Obama did too so point moot.
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Postby Loben The 2nd » Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:28 pm

Annihilators of Chan Island wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
Has he killed Americans yet?


Yes.

https://theintercept.com/2017/01/30/oba ... ld-sister/

Though Obama did too so point moot.


wow.

his 8 year old sister.

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Postby Telconi » Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:30 pm

Annihilators of Chan Island wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
Has he killed Americans yet?


Yes.

https://theintercept.com/2017/01/30/oba ... ld-sister/

Though Obama did too so point moot.


I'm not defending shooting 8 year old kids, but it is worth noting that the sister wasn't a U.S. citizen.
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Postby Vassenor » Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:33 pm

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Postby The East Marches II » Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:34 pm

Annihilators of Chan Island wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
Has he killed Americans yet?


Yes.

https://theintercept.com/2017/01/30/oba ... ld-sister/

Though Obama did too so point moot.


I was hoping not. Moot point it isn't. We shouldn't be legalizing this sort of nonsense. It leads to a dark path. Glenn Greenwald is an excellent reporter. Good choice.

Edit: she wasn't a citizen so it's not as bad but it's still shit.
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Postby Gormwood » Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:35 pm


Like he ever sticks to a point. Donnie is a mental and moral nomad.
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