MAGAThread XVII: All Things NOT Impeachment

[Galloism]

I strongly disagree with Donnie on his betrayal of the Kurds, I think a Kurdistan Nation State can be an oil rich, strong military power and US ally like Israel,

I am against Donnie's soft policy on North Korea, I used to work with 2 North Koreans and we used to talk in English about our nations Cuba and North Korea during our one hour break, and we found out we have a lot in common.

But I support Donnie on his anti Venezuelan and anti Cuban regime policies my pet issue on NS for obvious reasons.

See I can strongly disagree with Donnie.

If they'd be an ally like Israel that's a very good argument for them not being our ally lol.

Dr. Connors to the burn ward. Paging Dr. Connors, you’re needed in the burn ward.

[Cannot think of a name]

Is it? That seems like a monumental stretch. First, it proposes that he is in any way interested in placating the press, all evidence to the contrary. Second, it ignores the more salient pressure that he as receiving from his own party in backlash to his actions as opposing the sudden pull out was one of the rare moments of bipartisanship in the last few years. It seems far more obvious that they are meant to bring angry Republicans back on his side when he needs them the most.

A tariff he had had in place before plus some personal sanction. How scary, how decisive! Graham and co. are already ready to toss the Kurds under the bus. He fell for an Ivan trick and tipped his hand. It is more revealing for his personal thoughts than anything. As I said above, it's about F-35 and S-400.

This doesn't really support the weird conspiracy theory that this had anything to do with the media's obsession with the video and more to support why Graham would be the first to get back on board the Trump Train.

Surely you have articles that have switched to praise for limp sanctions and news outlets that have decided that everything's cool now?

I don't care about you enough to do any more digging or subject myself to hours of CNN. Try reading today's Washington Post! Maybe flip on CNN! I'm sure you can do it, you're a big boy.

So, no. I didn't imagine so.

...'kay...

Yes, the foreign policy """experts""" who got us into Iraq are notorious for their clear thinking, principles and strategic insight. I'm surprised you don't hold a grudge against them. You are old enough to remember that debacle.

...'kay.

[Miami Shores]

If they'd be an ally like Israel that's a very good argument for them not being our ally lol.

Careful now, speaking ill of greatest ally is a terrible crime.

I am a strong supporter of Israel and the Jewish People like President Donnie Trump of America, the USA.

[The East Marches II]

This doesn't really support the weird conspiracy theory that this had anything to do with the media's obsession with the video and more to support why Graham would be the first to get back on board the Trump Train.

I was mocking the media in general and using that as an example of their incompetence. It was the literal definition of fake news. Don't worry though CTOAN, I'll hold your hand and walk you through it because you can't grasp what I was explaining. You only have to ask and I'll help :^) It isn't a weird conspiracy by any means. My articles support my view. Their public position doesn't match their actual intentions. You should try reading articles before making comments, it'll help your posts seem intelligent.

So, no. I didn't imagine so.

You try hard with your posts, what's hard about turning on your TV? It's just button. I know you can do it!

Because I'm concerned about your Google abilities though, here is an op ed for you. A small chip to help you out.

...'kay.

It's ok CTOAN, I know it burns you inside to give me any credit. I'll be here to help explain the world and parts of our history you don't get it. Even if I don't get to it right away, I'll address your gaps of knowledge :^)

[Gormwood]

Exclusive: Trump lawyer Giuliani was paid $500,000 to consult on indicted associate's firm

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Donald Trump's personal attorney, Rudy Giuliani, was paid $500,000 for work he did for a company co-founded by the Ukrainian-American businessman arrested last week on campaign finance charges, Giuliani told Reuters on Monday.

The businessman, Lev Parnas, is a close associate of Giuliani and was involved in his effort to investigate Trump's political rival, former Vice President Joe Biden, who is a leading contender for the 2020 Democratic Party nomination.

Giuliani said Parnas' company, Boca Raton-based Fraud Guarantee, whose website says it aims to help clients "reduce and mitigate fraud", engaged Giuliani Partners, a management and security consulting firm, around August 2018. Giuliani said he was hired to consult on Fraud Guarantee's technologies and provide legal advice on regulatory issues. Federal prosecutors are "examining Giuliani's interactions" with Parnas and another Giuliani associate, Igor Fruman, who was also indicted on campaign finance charges, a law enforcement source told Reuters on Sunday.

The New York Times reported last week that Parnas had told associates he paid Giuliani hundreds of thousands of dollars for what Giuliani said was business and legal advice. Giuliani said for the first time on Monday that the total amount was $500,000.

Giuliani told Reuters the money came in two payments made within weeks of each other. He said he could not recall the dates of the payments. He said most of the work he did for Fraud Guarantee was completed in 2018 but that he had been doing follow-up for over a year.

Parnas and Fruman were arrested at Dulles Airport outside Washington last week on charges they funneled foreign money to unnamed U.S. politicians in a bid to influence U.S.-Ukraine relations in violation of U.S. campaign finance laws. The men were preparing to board a plane to Europe.

According to an indictment unsealed by U.S. prosecutors, an unidentified Russian businessman arranged for two $500,000 wires to be sent from foreign bank accounts to a U.S. account controlled by Fruman in September and October 2018. The money was used, in part, by Fruman, Parnas and two other men charged in the indictment to gain influence with U.S. politicians and candidates, the indictment said.

Foreign nationals are prohibited from making contributions and other expenditures in connection with U.S. elections, and from making contributions in someone else’s name.

Giuliani said he was confident that the money he received was from "a domestic source," but he would not say where it came from.

"I know beyond any doubt the source of the money is not any questionable source," he told Reuters in an interview. "The money did not come from foreigners. I can rule that out 100%," he said.

He declined to say whether the money had been paid directly to him by Fraud Guarantee or from another source.

John Dowd, a lawyer for Parnas and Fruman, also would not discuss the source of the funding that Giuliani said he received for his work for Fraud Guarantee. "What I know is privileged," Dowd said.

[Cannot think of a name]

This doesn't really support the weird conspiracy theory that this had anything to do with the media's obsession with the video and more to support why Graham would be the first to get back on board the Trump Train.

I was mocking the media in general and using that as an example of their incompetence. It was the literal definition of fake news.

It was absolutely not the literal definition of fake news. Fake news is not news that doesn't fit a particular narrative or 'is not as important as they think it is' or 'news I don't like.'

It is actual fake news presented as real. As in a completely fabricated news story on a site meant to look like an actual news source, like having an abc.co url instead of abcnews.go.com. The fake news stories were meant to fabricate events. This is not that. Do not conflate the two.

Don't worry though CTOAN, I'll hold your hand and walk you through it because you can't grasp what I was explaining. You only have to ask and I'll help :^)

ugh...this is going to be your thing, isn't it?

It isn't a weird conspiracy by any means. My articles support my view. Their public position doesn't match their actual intentions. You should try reading articles before making comments, it'll help your posts seem intelligent.

It would help if you'd pick a lane. Your articles support Graham's preexisting support for issues favoring Turkey. Not the rest of your weird random flailing.

So, no. I didn't imagine so.

You try hard with your posts, what's hard about turning on your TV? It's just button. I know you can do it!

Because I'm concerned about your Google abilities though, here is an op ed for you. A small chip to help you out.

As the saying goes, so goes a Bloomberg opinion piece, so goes the...

wait, no one says that.

Anyway, finding someone in the press that agrees with the sanctions doesn't really justify the giant weird conspiracy. But please, drag it out some more. It's calibrating.

It's ok CTOAN, I know it burns you inside to give me any credit. I'll be here to help explain the world and parts of our history you don't get it. Even if I don't get to it right away, I'll address your gaps of knowledge :^)

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Do you even know what you're talking about anymore or are you just on autopilot?

[Ifreann]

Exclusive: Trump lawyer Giuliani was paid $500,000 to consult on indicted associate's firm

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Donald Trump's personal attorney, Rudy Giuliani, was paid $500,000 for work he did for a company co-founded by the Ukrainian-American businessman arrested last week on campaign finance charges, Giuliani told Reuters on Monday.

The businessman, Lev Parnas, is a close associate of Giuliani and was involved in his effort to investigate Trump's political rival, former Vice President Joe Biden, who is a leading contender for the 2020 Democratic Party nomination.

Giuliani said Parnas' company, Boca Raton-based Fraud Guarantee...

I love "Fraud Guarantee" as a name for a business.

[Cannot think of a name]

Exclusive: Trump lawyer Giuliani was paid $500,000 to consult on indicted associate's firm

I love "Fraud Guarantee" as a name for a business.

It's like they went to the Simpsons writers for their names.

[Thermodolia]

I strongly disagree with Donnie on his betrayal of the Kurds, I think a Kurdistan Nation State can be an oil rich, strong military power and US ally like Israel,

I am against Donnie's soft policy on North Korea, I used to work with 2 North Koreans and we used to talk in English about our nations Cuba and North Korea during our one hour break, and we found out we have a lot in common.

But I support Donnie on his anti Venezuelan and anti Cuban regime policies my pet issue on NS for obvious reasons.

See I can strongly disagree with Donnie.

If they'd be an ally like Israel that's a very good argument for them not being our ally lol.

You mean that allies aren’t supposed to send high tech stuff to our enemies?

[Miami Shores]

If they'd be an ally like Israel that's a very good argument for them not being our ally lol.

You mean that allies aren’t supposed to send high tech stuff to our enemies?

Thermy, I think but I am not sure, Saudi Arabia who has a bad human rights record and who is supposed to be a US ally despite being anti Israel in general, I think is kind of similar, I think they recently did something or other not in the US interests, but I am not sure, I bet you know more about it than me, being Jewish.

I used to work for a major US Defense Contractor Corporation in Chicago and we sold arms to Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and other nations that have questionable US policies.

[The Pris0ner]

Exclusive: Trump lawyer Giuliani was paid $500,000 to consult on indicted associate's firm

I love "Fraud Guarantee" as a name for a business.

Must be selling some kind of election insurance or protection.

[Miami Shores]

I love "Fraud Guarantee" as a name for a business.

Must be selling some kind of election insurance or protection.

I think Rudy Rudy Giuliani and his Ukrainian friends will be found not guilty by whomever is investigating them and or charging them.

[The Pris0ner]

Must be selling some kind of election insurance or protection.

I think Rudy Rudy Giuliani and his Ukrainian friends will be found not guilty by whomever is investigating them and or charging them.

Do you really think?

[Miami Shores]

I think Rudy Rudy Giuliani and his Ukrainian friends will be found not guilty by whomever is investigating them and or charging them.

Do you really think?

Yes I really do believe so.

[San Lumen]

Do you really think?

Yes I really do believe so.

On what grounds? Is the US Attorney biased against them and Republicans?

[The Black Forrest]

Do you really think?

Yes I really do believe so.

Falling on the sword?

How long before Donnie and White House announce Giuliani and his buds were the villain and Donnie is innocent?

[Gormwood]

Yes I really do believe so.

On what grounds? Is the US Attorney biased against them and Republicans?

Or Barr trying to shut it down.

[San Lumen]

On what grounds? Is the US Attorney biased against them and Republicans?

Or Barr trying to shut it down.

Im surprised Trump hasnt fired the US Attorney for the Southern District of NY yet.

[Miami Shores]

Or Barr trying to shut it down.

Im surprised Trump hasnt fired the US Attorney for the Southern District of NY yet.

Does he have the power to do so, I don't know about those things?

[The Black Forrest]

Im surprised Trump hasnt fired the US Attorney for the Southern District of NY yet.

Does he have the power to do so, I don't know about those things?

He can’t. Probably wishes.

They are elected positions mainly. A few states have it where the Governor appoints them.

[San Lumen]

Im surprised Trump hasnt fired the US Attorney for the Southern District of NY yet.

Does he have the power to do so, I don't know about those things?

Yes. They are appointed by the President and can be fired at anytime.

Does he have the power to do so, I don't know about those things?

He can’t. Probably wishes.

They are elected positions mainly. A few states have it where the Governor appoints them.

They are not elected. What you are thinking of is State Attorney generals. They are mostly elected.

[Cannot think of a name]

Yes I really do believe so.

Falling on the sword?

How long before Donnie and White House announce Giuliani and his buds were the villain and Donnie is innocent?

Being Trump's sineater is a thankless job.

Speaking of which...

Rudy Giuliani is parting ways with the personal attorney who has represented him in matters related to the impeachment inquiry. Giuliani told CNN Tuesday that his current attorney, Jon Sale, will stop representing the former New York City mayor shortly.
Sale had been working for Giuliani after the House of Representatives subpoenaed Giuliani for documents related to the ongoing impeachment inquiry. The deadline for his response to the congressional subpoena is Tuesday.
"Jon was helping me with assessing (the) congressional request. He will submit his letter and he will be finished with what I asked him to do," Giuliani said.

Quit, fired, or can't afford him anymore?

Taking on a criminal attorney would likely cost Giuliani something close to $1 million, according to people in New York legal circles. That could be difficult for Giuliani, who admitted earlier this year that he had to take a $100,000 loan from another of Trump's lawyers Marc Mukasey as a result of his ongoing divorce proceedings, according to a report from Bloomberg.

Not going to make fun of him for also getting divorced during all this. That shit happens to a lot of people and it's not like he isn't going through a stressful period even if it is a result of his actions.

[Miami Shores]

On what grounds? Is the US Attorney biased against them and Republicans?

Or Barr trying to shut it down.

Gormwood, I don't think the US Attorney is biased against them and Republicans, unless he is an anti Trumper or Never Trumper. But I think Rudy Giuliani and his Ukrainian friends will not be found guilty by whomever charges them.

[Miami Shores]

Falling on the sword?

How long before Donnie and White House announce Giuliani and his buds were the villain and Donnie is innocent?

Being Trump's sineater is a thankless job.

Speaking of which...

Rudy Giuliani is parting ways with the personal attorney who has represented him in matters related to the impeachment inquiry. Giuliani told CNN Tuesday that his current attorney, Jon Sale, will stop representing the former New York City mayor shortly.
Sale had been working for Giuliani after the House of Representatives subpoenaed Giuliani for documents related to the ongoing impeachment inquiry. The deadline for his response to the congressional subpoena is Tuesday.
"Jon was helping me with assessing (the) congressional request. He will submit his letter and he will be finished with what I asked him to do," Giuliani said.

Quit, fired, or can't afford him anymore?

Taking on a criminal attorney would likely cost Giuliani something close to $1 million, according to people in New York legal circles. That could be difficult for Giuliani, who admitted earlier this year that he had to take a $100,000 loan from another of Trump's lawyers Marc Mukasey as a result of his ongoing divorce proceedings, according to a report from Bloomberg.

Not going to make fun of him for also getting divorced during all this. That shit happens to a lot of people and it's not like he isn't going through a stressful period even if it is a result of his actions.

"Being Trump's sineater is a thankless job." I disagree he is no sineater.

[The Pris0ner]

Do you really think?

Yes I really do believe so.

That was not the question.

Try again... do you really think? Or is this a hopeful guess?