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Postby South-Central South Park » Sun Oct 13, 2019 2:12 pm

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South-Central South Park wrote:More white americans are shot dead by cops than blacks, i dont think they really care about skin color, theyll shoot anyone if they fuck around, or if theyre incompetent.


In the U.S., African Americans are 2.5 times more likely to be killed by police than white people. For black women, the rate is 1.4 times more likely.


https://www.citylab.com/equity/2019/08/ ... ta/595528/

More likely sure but thats cause blacks never obey any commands while whites obey mostly, yet both races are shot down in substantial numbers. Its not a race problem but a cop problem, too many shitty cops who shoot down innocent people. Though most cops do their job properly.

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Postby Nouveau Quebecois » Sun Oct 13, 2019 2:12 pm

Uinted Communist of Africa wrote:When people ask why i hate on the west

*points to the thousands of situations like this*

So relatable :) :) :)
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Postby Salus Maior » Sun Oct 13, 2019 2:13 pm

Uinted Communist of Africa wrote:When people ask why i hate on the west

*points to the thousands of situations like this*


Police corruption and abuse is hardly unique to the West.
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Postby Uinted Communist of Africa » Sun Oct 13, 2019 2:20 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
Uinted Communist of Africa wrote:When people ask why i hate on the west

*points to the thousands of situations like this*


Police corruption and abuse is hardly unique to the West.

Pffffttt ive been to other countries and the polcie there dont act like you did something wrong just for being a different shade.
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Postby Estanglia » Sun Oct 13, 2019 2:20 pm

Yeah, this shooting definitely looks unjustified. I mean, what the fuck?

It's not surprising that people are worried when shit like this happens.

Maybe the investigation turns up something that somehow clears this officer of all wrongdoing, but I severely doubt that.

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More likely sure but thats cause blacks never obey any commands while whites obey mostly, yet both races are shot down in substantial numbers. Its not a race problem but a cop problem, too many shitty cops who shoot down innocent people. Though most cops do their job properly.


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Postby Nouveau Quebecois » Sun Oct 13, 2019 2:28 pm

Estanglia wrote:Yeah, this shooting definitely looks unjustified. I mean, what the fuck?

It's not surprising that people are worried when shit like this happens.

Maybe the investigation turns up something that somehow clears this officer of all wrongdoing, but I severely doubt that.

South-Central South Park wrote:More likely sure but thats cause blacks never obey any commands while whites obey mostly, yet both races are shot down in substantial numbers. Its not a race problem but a cop problem, too many shitty cops who shoot down innocent people. Though most cops do their job properly.


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I wouldn't say "blacks", more like people living in high-crime rate areas.
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Postby Reploid Productions » Sun Oct 13, 2019 2:29 pm

South-Central South Park wrote:More likely sure but thats cause blacks never obey any commands while whites obey mostly

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Postby Des-Bal » Sun Oct 13, 2019 2:31 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
In the U.S., African Americans are 2.5 times more likely to be killed by police than white people. For black women, the rate is 1.4 times more likely.


https://www.citylab.com/equity/2019/08/ ... ta/595528/


They're also more likely to kill police officers. Either black people and police both love murder or those two groups just tend to bump into each other more.
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Postby Greed and Death » Sun Oct 13, 2019 2:36 pm

Neanderthaland wrote:
Nouveau Quebecois wrote:I think it should be up to the evidence an official investigation presents but that's just me.

Killing someone doesn't equate to guilt.

Which is why a jury can find someone "not guilty."

Honestly, a trial is exactly what should happen here.

Depends on the evidence. It might just go to a grand jury.
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Postby Geneviev » Sun Oct 13, 2019 2:37 pm

Uinted Communist of Africa wrote:When people ask why i hate on the west

*points to the thousands of situations like this*

This is more of a problem in America. Europe isn't as bad.

If this is true, the officer should be fired.
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Postby Neanderthaland » Sun Oct 13, 2019 2:40 pm

Greed and Death wrote:
Neanderthaland wrote:Which is why a jury can find someone "not guilty."

Honestly, a trial is exactly what should happen here.

Depends on the evidence. It might just go to a grand jury.

True.
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Postby Uinted Communist of Africa » Sun Oct 13, 2019 2:41 pm

Geneviev wrote:
Uinted Communist of Africa wrote:When people ask why i hate on the west

*points to the thousands of situations like this*

This is more of a problem in America. Europe isn't as bad.

If this is true, the officer should be fired.

My other comment corrected that mistake.
Your compeltly right. Other nations tend to ignore or just get uncomfortable around darker people.
America is the only nation in my experience where the cops are freakin SS officers in disguise
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sun Oct 13, 2019 2:41 pm

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Postby Gravlen » Sun Oct 13, 2019 2:42 pm

The Brytish Isles wrote:Jesus Christ, how does this keep happening in the US? Is this a matter of trigger discipline or what?

There are several notable factors:

- Poor training.
- An armed society naturally leading to escalated responses.
- A culture of fear and pervasive prejudice.
- Police impunity.
- Lack of mental healthcare, in addition to a stigma around seeking treatment. (

Mix all of these together, and you get a disastrous brew with one factor feeding into others making it a bad downward spiral. For example, few mentally ill people actually commit violent crime, but a few does. This may lead to prejudice against mentally ill people, which in turn may lead to escalated responses when the police recieve reports about a mentally ill person with a gun.

The lack of mental healthcare and stigma surrounding seeking treatment also has a direct effect on police officers. It can be a stresssful and even traumatic job, and if you can't or won't get help if and when you need it...
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Postby Andsed » Sun Oct 13, 2019 2:43 pm

Uinted Communist of Africa wrote:When people ask why i hate on the west

*points to the thousands of situations like this*

Police abuse of power is in no way a solely western problem so I don´t exactly see your point here.


But yeah this seems very shady and the officer should be put on trial. Also the police need to be reformed and more oversight added.
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Postby Napkizemlja » Sun Oct 13, 2019 2:45 pm

The officer should have the book tossed at him. Hard. Preferably life in prison.
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Postby Geneviev » Sun Oct 13, 2019 2:46 pm

Uinted Communist of Africa wrote:
Geneviev wrote:This is more of a problem in America. Europe isn't as bad.

If this is true, the officer should be fired.

My other comment corrected that mistake.
Your compeltly right. Other nations tend to ignore or just get uncomfortable around darker people.
America is the only nation in my experience where the cops are freakin SS officers in disguise

That's very true. But there doesn't seem to be any way to change it.
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Postby Des-Bal » Sun Oct 13, 2019 3:01 pm

Uinted Communist of Africa wrote:My other comment corrected that mistake.
Your compeltly right. Other nations tend to ignore or just get uncomfortable around darker people.
America is the only nation in my experience where the cops are freakin SS officers in disguise


Minority suspects are typically shot by minority officers. To say the police are "freakin ss officers in disguise" is to severely misunderstand the issue and it's part of why it's so difficult to solve.
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Postby Luziyca » Sun Oct 13, 2019 3:05 pm

Salus Maior wrote:This needs to stop. Seriously.

The absolute sloppiness and outright rampant abusiveness of the police force needs to be checked. This is disgusting, what a travesty of justice.

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Postby Uinted Communist of Africa » Sun Oct 13, 2019 3:07 pm

Des-Bal wrote:
Uinted Communist of Africa wrote:My other comment corrected that mistake.
Your compeltly right. Other nations tend to ignore or just get uncomfortable around darker people.
America is the only nation in my experience where the cops are freakin SS officers in disguise


Minority suspects are typically shot by minority officers. To say the police are "freakin ss officers in disguise" is to severely misunderstand the issue and it's part of why it's so difficult to solve.

The minority officers are trained by the SS acting officers and practically live with their brothers in arms. Your not surprised when they start acting that way too? Mob mentality works on police too.
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Postby Totenborg » Sun Oct 13, 2019 3:15 pm

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It does not show footage from inside the property but includes images of a weapon that police say they found inside the bedroom.

It is unclear if Ms Jefferson was holding a weapon at the time, but firearm possession is legal for people aged over 18 in Texas.

these seem like important details that should be investigated further. if she was pointing a gun at the police then that would make much more sense as to why this happened.

It makes the situation worse, actually. It would mean that she had heard someone creeping around her house, and she was afraid that her life was in danger.
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Postby Geneviev » Sun Oct 13, 2019 3:17 pm

Meligoland wrote:
It does not show footage from inside the property but includes images of a weapon that police say they found inside the bedroom.

It is unclear if Ms Jefferson was holding a weapon at the time, but firearm possession is legal for people aged over 18 in Texas.

these seem like important details that should be investigated further. if she was pointing a gun at the police then that would make much more sense as to why this happened.

It doesn't say that she was pointing a gun at the officer. It was unclear if she was even holding it.
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Postby Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana » Sun Oct 13, 2019 3:19 pm

Uinted Communist of Africa wrote:When people ask why i hate on the west

*points to the thousands of situations like this*

You’re making a judgement on an entire region of the world based on the actions of a few

Thats the definition of prejudice if you ask me
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Postby Des-Bal » Sun Oct 13, 2019 3:20 pm

Uinted Communist of Africa wrote:The minority officers are trained by the SS acting officers and practically live with their brothers in arms. Your not surprised when they start acting that way too? Mob mentality works on police too.


Yeah if you start with the assumption that you're talking about the SS you certainly can maintain that assumption in the face of evidence to the contrary.
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Postby Page » Sun Oct 13, 2019 3:36 pm

Another killing of an innocent person in their own home by a cop, we can only hope this one will be convicted as well. I'd like to think that if several cops are convicted in high profile cases, maybe police will be more hesitant to pull the trigger.
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