Breathing while black is still a serious offence.

[Samadhi]

This is honestly depressing. The cop should be fired and tried for murder.

Why?

I'd say the part where he killed someone.
Could also be his fashion sense.

[Fartsniffage]

This is honestly depressing. The cop should be fired and tried for murder.

Why?

Because he killed someone and it should be up to a jury whether that killing was justified.

[Neanderthaland]

Could say the same thing for literally any other shooting. Could say that for 9/11 even. You tend not to know things until you do.

Except that in this case we have body cam footage of the shooting.

Edited footage, but yes. It seems unlikely that the police would have edited it to cast themselves in a less favorable light, though.

In any case, we're calling for a trial. Not a guilty conviction. A trial that would hopefully determine whether the police officer acted inappropriately, with access to all the facts.

[Ifreann]

Except that in this case we have body cam footage of the shooting.

We tend to do. In a lot of cases. This isn't particularly rare.

So I'll repeat my question. What do you expect the investigation to uncover that we don't already know? Do you think there's going to be evidence of a ghost that wasn't picked up by the camera or something?

[Salus Maior]

We actually need the police for a lot of things.

What needs to happen is a clean house and some serious reform. People need to get sacked, and charged.

Or split up into various different organizations. Which share information only. Competitively organised to reduce corruption. With the majority unarmed so you don't get some guy who's twitchy from gang bangers shooting for no good reason.

I don't think that would help.

What needs to happen is better oversight. Which is probably the real problem here, considering our government is completely tying itself in knots.

[LiberNovusAmericae]

Why?

Because he killed someone and it should be up to a jury whether that killing was justified.

This ^^

[Totenborg]

Either way, the pig had no business discharging his weapon.

And you know this why?

He didn't declare himsef as police, and didn't account for auditory exclusion/ the victim's disorientation. Also, since when is 1 second long enough to register and comply with a command, especially given the circumstances? That cop should be jailed or at the very least barred from police work.

[Empire of Ur]

This is honestly depressing. The cop should be fired and tried for murder.

The Cop did Murder someone but the courts in the U.S. will probeley just put him on paid leave.

[Nouveau Quebecois]

Why?

Because he killed someone and it should be up to a jury whether that killing was justified.

I think it should be up to the evidence an official investigation presents but that's just me.

Why?

I'd say the part where he killed someone.
Could also be his fashion sense.

Killing someone doesn't equate to guilt.

[Nouveau Quebecois]

And you know this why?

He didn't declare himsef as police, and didn't account for auditory exclusion/ the victim's disorientation. Also, since when is 1 second long enough to register and comply with a command, especially given the circumstances? That cop should be jailed or at the very least barred from police work.

I'd wait until the official investigation to determine what the cop did or did not do prior to the shooting.

[Neanderthaland]

Because he killed someone and it should be up to a jury whether that killing was justified.

I think it should be up to the evidence an official investigation presents but that's just me.

I'd say the part where he killed someone.
Could also be his fashion sense.

Killing someone doesn't equate to guilt.

Which is why a jury can find someone "not guilty."

Honestly, a trial is exactly what should happen here.

[Nouveau Quebecois]

This is honestly depressing. The cop should be fired and tried for murder.

The Cop did Murder someone but the courts in the U.S. will probeley just put him on paid leave.

I'd wait until an official investigation before presuming guilt.

[Cekoviu]

Oh, I'm sure the officer will be punished... lightly and five years from now.

[Fartsniffage]

I think it should be up to the evidence an official investigation presents but that's just me.

Well I'm sure that any evidence discovered by an official investigation would be a key part of a trial. That tends to be how trials work.

[Nouveau Quebecois]

I think it should be up to the evidence an official investigation presents but that's just me.

Well I'm sure that any evidence discovered by an official investigation would be a key part of a trial. That tends to be how trials work.

Which is why a jury can find someone "not guilty."

Honestly, a trial is exactly what should happen here.

Then why does he have to be fired?

[Neanderthaland]

Well I'm sure that any evidence discovered by an official investigation would be a key part of a trial. That tends to be how trials work.

Which is why a jury can find someone "not guilty."

Honestly, a trial is exactly what should happen here.

Then why does he have to be fired?

Where did I write that?

[Inkopolitia]

Well I'm sure that any evidence discovered by an official investigation would be a key part of a trial. That tends to be how trials work.

Which is why a jury can find someone "not guilty."

Honestly, a trial is exactly what should happen here.

Then why does he have to be fired?

Because shooting people just because is not a good thing to do...?

[Marxist Germany]

Well I'm sure that any evidence discovered by an official investigation would be a key part of a trial. That tends to be how trials work.

Which is why a jury can find someone "not guilty."

Honestly, a trial is exactly what should happen here.

Then why does he have to be fired?

Fired after found guilty, oh and entering a house without a warrant.

[Nouveau Quebecois]

Then why does he have to be fired?

Where did I write that?

I don't know, you responded to me so I thought you were rebutting my argument to whoever said he should be.

Because shooting people just because is not a good thing to do...?

I'd wait for an official investigation to determine the cop killed her, 'just because'.

[Nouveau Quebecois]

Then why does he have to be fired?

Fired after found guilty, oh and entering a house without a warrant.

Forget presumption of innocence, we're jumping straight to the executioner.

[Fartsniffage]

Well I'm sure that any evidence discovered by an official investigation would be a key part of a trial. That tends to be how trials work.

Which is why a jury can find someone "not guilty."

Honestly, a trial is exactly what should happen here.

Then why does he have to be fired?

I never said he had to be fired.

[Neanderthaland]

Fired after found guilty, oh and entering a house without a warrant.

Forget presumption of innocence, we're jumping straight to the executioner.

Dude, people are "found guilty" at trials. What the hell are you talking about?

[Inkopolitia]

Because shooting people just because is not a good thing to do...?

I'd wait for an official investigation to determine the cop killed her, 'just because'.

I'm not gonna assume things, but in the case the 'official investigation' turns out that he shot her just because, he should be fired and sentenced for murder.

[Nouveau Quebecois]

I'd wait for an official investigation to determine the cop killed her, 'just because'.

I'm not gonna assume things, but in the case the 'official investigation' turns out that he shot her just because, he should be fired and sentenced for murder.

Okay, then don't assume things.

[Uinted Communist of Africa]

When people ask why i hate on the west

*points to the thousands of situations like this*