Breathing while black is still a serious offence.

[The Brytish Isles]

Jesus Christ, how does this keep happening in the US? Is this a matter of trigger discipline or what?

Perchance some kind of race-based prejudice is at play. Perhaps. Possibly.

Did the officer see the victim was Afro-American though? It happened at night and vision was probably obscured by the curtain after all. I’m not denying that racial prejudice may be at play in some instances, but I’m admittedly not so quick as to say this happened directly because of it in this case.

[LiberNovusAmericae]

Perchance some kind of race-based prejudice is at play. Perhaps. Possibly.

Did the officer see the victim was Afro-American though? It happened at night and vision was probably obscured by the curtain after all. I’m not denying that racial prejudice may be at play in some instances, but I’m admittedly not so quick as to say this happened directly because of it in this case.

I agree here. There is currently no evidence this was race based.

[Ifreann]

Perchance some kind of race-based prejudice is at play. Perhaps. Possibly.

I feel sorry for the old guy who called the cops. He was just trying to be a good neighbour and it ended up getting his neighbour murdered. Poor guy must be feeling like shit.

Yeah, that's gotta be really shit.

[Fartsniffage]

I feel sorry for the old guy who called the cops. He was just trying to be a good neighbour and it ended up getting his neighbour murdered. Poor guy must be feeling like shit.

To be fair it's not his responsibility to predict whether the cops that turn up are going to act like undisciplined assholes.

You telling me you wouldn't feel like shit in his position?

[Ifreann]

Perchance some kind of race-based prejudice is at play. Perhaps. Possibly.

Did the officer see the victim was Afro-American though? It happened at night and vision was probably obscured by the curtain after all. I’m not denying that racial prejudice may be at play in some instances, but I’m admittedly not so quick as to say this happened directly because of it in this case.

Sure, maybe the officer thought they were taking out a minstrel in black-face.

[The New California Republic]

To be fair it's not his responsibility to predict whether the cops that turn up are going to act like undisciplined assholes.

You telling me you wouldn't feel like shit in his position?

I probably would at first, but I'd eventually realise that the onus isn't on me to second guess whether the police that respond to it are a couple of cowboys.

[Gormwood]

I will not be surprised if the cops get off this time.

[Nouveau Quebecois]

Did the officer see the victim was Afro-American though? It happened at night and vision was probably obscured by the curtain after all. I’m not denying that racial prejudice may be at play in some instances, but I’m admittedly not so quick as to say this happened directly because of it in this case.

Sure, maybe the officer thought they were taking out a minstrel in black-face.

Maybe we should wait for the official investigation before assuming the cop is a Klansmen.

[Totenborg]

Lesson learned: don't call the cops for anything. Otherwise, you may be killing someone, especially if that that someone isn't white. Also, f%$# the police.

[Ifreann]

Sure, maybe the officer thought they were taking out a minstrel in black-face.

Maybe we should wait for the official investigation before assuming the cop is a Klansmen.

What do you imagine an investigation could possibly uncover that we don't already know?

[Totenborg]

Sure, maybe the officer thought they were taking out a minstrel in black-face.

Maybe we should wait for the official investigation before assuming the cop is a Klansmen.

Either way, the pig had no business discharging his weapon.

[Nouveau Quebecois]

Maybe we should wait for the official investigation before assuming the cop is a Klansmen.

Either way, the pig had no business discharging his weapon.

And you know this why?

[Nouveau Quebecois]

Maybe we should wait for the official investigation before assuming the cop is a Klansmen.

What do you imagine an investigation could possibly uncover that we don't already know?

Could say the same thing for literally any other shooting. Could say that for 9/11 even. You tend not to know things until you do.

[South-Central South Park]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-50032290

Tl;dr, police peep from window without even bothering with silly stuff as warrants to enter private property or identifying themselves, and proceed to execute the owner of the home for the heinous felony of being in her own living room while black.

Seriously, if I were a black American, I'd start considering seeking asylum abroad.
Is BLM still a thing, or did it die off?

More white americans are shot dead by cops than blacks, i dont think they really care about skin color, theyll shoot anyone if they fuck around, or if theyre incompetent.

[LiberNovusAmericae]

Breakins are usually not reported via non-emergency lines. Fuck off with that noise.

Police were responding to a possible break-in, I'd wait for the investigation before telling the cops how to do their jobs if I were you.

With the information the cop was given...

And even if they actually thought it was a break in, which the officer should have known was not proven, their reaction should not to have been to open fire only a few seconds after they see someone.

Maybe we should wait for the official investigation before assuming the cop is a Klansmen.

One of the only things here that I agree with you with.

[Fartsniffage]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-50032290

Tl;dr, police peep from window without even bothering with silly stuff as warrants to enter private property or identifying themselves, and proceed to execute the owner of the home for the heinous felony of being in her own living room while black.

Seriously, if I were a black American, I'd start considering seeking asylum abroad.
Is BLM still a thing, or did it die off?

More white americans are shot dead by cops than blacks, i dont think they really care about skin color, theyll shoot anyone if they fuck around, or if theyre incompetent.

In the U.S., African Americans are 2.5 times more likely to be killed by police than white people. For black women, the rate is 1.4 times more likely.

https://www.citylab.com/equity/2019/08/ ... ta/595528/

[Galloism]

Lesson learned: don't call the cops for anything. Otherwise, you may be killing someone, especially if that that someone isn't white. Also, f%$# the police.

I mean, not quite this bad of course, but I’ve adopted this policy in the general sense. I wouldn’t call the police unless it was a situation they can handle better than I can handle myself.

There’s too much risk these days, and too many people trigger happy and on edge.

[Nouveau Quebecois]

One of the only things here that I agree with you with.

Common sense is often a uniting factor.

[NoAvailability]

That's what you get for being a police officer. Ignored when everything goes right, vilified if it doesn't. Thankless business, that. Not surprised that the article makes sure we know color and gender of the dude, that stuff seems to matter a lot more nowadays than it did a few years ago.

Jesus Christ, how does this keep happening in the US? Is this a matter of trigger discipline or what?

Well, yeah. Pretty much. A police officer in Europe, or Germany at least, is trained to basically run face first into another person's bullet as opposed to shooting first.

That doesn't mean there aren't any deaths. There's been 14 (wikipedia lists 9, but let's go with the higher number here, not like it matters too much for this) in Germany in 2017 and about 1000 in the USA in the same year, with population numbers of the USA being 4 times higher total than in Germany. If we scale that (not exactly kosher, but let's do it anyway), equal levels of police violence would mean that the USA should have about 56 instead of the 1000 they have. The USA has... 1700% more police violence? Did I calculate that correctly? Anyway, yeah, USA has a lot more police violence than Germany at any rate, and I THINK we have about equal statistics compared to the rest of Western Europe.

For deaths of officers, I think it was... 152 in the USA vs 2 in Germany. Which sounds contradictory if you consider the first sentence of the response, but, well... that may show why they are on edge all the time. A perpetrator (or a perceived perpetrator) is 18 times more likely to get shot by the police in the USA as opposed to Germany, while an officer in the USA is 76 (!) times more likely to die on duty as opposed to an officer in Germany. Despite not being trained as cannon fodder like German police is.

[Ifreann]

What do you imagine an investigation could possibly uncover that we don't already know?

Could say the same thing for literally any other shooting. Could say that for 9/11 even. You tend not to know things until you do.

Except that in this case we have body cam footage of the shooting.

[Galloism]

More white americans are shot dead by cops than blacks, i dont think they really care about skin color, theyll shoot anyone if they fuck around, or if theyre incompetent.

In the U.S., African Americans are 2.5 times more likely to be killed by police than white people. For black women, the rate is 1.4 times more likely.

https://www.citylab.com/equity/2019/08/ ... ta/595528/

Also men are far far more likely to be shot by police than women. This time it was a woman, but the worst thing to be is a black man.

[Totenborg]

Lesson learned: don't call the cops for anything. Otherwise, you may be killing someone, especially if that that someone isn't white. Also, f%$# the police.

I mean, not quite this bad of course, but I’ve adopted this policy in the general sense. I wouldn’t call the police unless it was a situation they can handle better than I can handle myself.

There’s too much risk these days, and too many people trigger happy and on edge.

Indeed.

[Marxist Germany]

This is honestly depressing. The cop should be fired and tried for murder.

[Nouveau Quebecois]

Could say the same thing for literally any other shooting. Could say that for 9/11 even. You tend not to know things until you do.

Except that in this case we have body cam footage of the shooting.

We tend to do. In a lot of cases. This isn't particularly rare.

[Nouveau Quebecois]

This is honestly depressing. The cop should be fired and tried for murder.

Why?