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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sat Oct 12, 2019 8:42 pm

What a silly response to the mention of white privilege in a book. Burning it. Silly silly.
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Postby USS Monitor » Sat Oct 12, 2019 9:02 pm

Burning the book is disrespectful and immature, but people have the right to be disrespectful and immature.

Following up with the students and discussing the topic further is the best thing anyone can do about it. A lot of times people that get upset at "white privilege" rhetoric are sincerely offended. They're not necessarily promoting a white supremacist agenda or being intentionally racist. Many people that talk about "privilege" do it in a tone-deaf, high-handed, and simplistic way -- and it's not surprising that this sometimes goes over like a lead balloon.

One thing Capo Crucet has right is that you can't change someone's whole view of race relations in just one night of conversation. You can't just tell someone, "This is white privilege and blah blah blah is how the world works," and expect them to unquestioningly take your word for it.
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Postby Bear Stearns » Sat Oct 12, 2019 9:11 pm

Dazchan wrote:I’ve never really understood the point of book burning. I mean, you buy the book, thereby giving the author royalties, and then you destroy it, thereby preventing yourself from getting anything out of the transaction. It seems like the only person harmed in a book burning is the person doing the burning.


See: flag burning
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Postby The Black Forrest » Sat Oct 12, 2019 10:58 pm

Burning the books they paid for?.....giving her great publicity.....I am sure the author thanks them.
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Postby Crockerland » Sat Oct 12, 2019 11:01 pm

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Nobody, nobody, gives a shit that she is a "Latina Author", what a dishonest title.
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/briannasacks/georgia-southern-burned-latina-authors-book

"She came to our school and, the audience was predominantly white, and she came in and was attacking white people for an hour, putting all these stereotypes and generalizations on us," said one 18-year-old attendee. "Like all white people are privileged and racist."

Another student said the audience reacted when the author stated that most white people "needed to be removed from authority positions because two-thirds of people in high positions should not be white."


It sounds like she's a racist cunt and that's why they burned her book. Nobody cares what race she is.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sat Oct 12, 2019 11:24 pm

Book burning isn't really my cup of tea but as others have said it's little different from flag burning imo.
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Sun Oct 13, 2019 2:59 am

Sad to see this kind of division. Her speech was tone-deaf racist, hopefully she'll learn to moderate her language and engage with people in more productive ways or universities will choose not to book her. The "privilege" vocabulary is very generalising and unhelpful, and actually very contrary to the "intersectional" approach that many progressive authors claim to sign up for in one breath, and then talk about how "white people" are privileged when actually many of them are on the breadline and struggling as much as poor blacks.

If the way you talk about division alienates people rather than brings them together, you need to use different words.
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Postby Uiiop » Sun Oct 13, 2019 3:36 am

Crockerland wrote:Israelies burn German Author's Book*
*(Minor sidenote: Book was "Mein Kampf")


Nobody, nobody, gives a shit that she is a "Latina Author", what a dishonest title.
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/briannasacks/georgia-southern-burned-latina-authors-book

"She came to our school and, the audience was predominantly white, and she came in and was attacking white people for an hour, putting all these stereotypes and generalizations on us," said one 18-year-old attendee. "Like all white people are privileged and racist."

Another student said the audience reacted when the author stated that most white people "needed to be removed from authority positions because two-thirds of people in high positions should not be white."


It sounds like she's a racist cunt and that's why they burned her book. Nobody cares what race she is.


Listening to people being offended by something isn't proof of the thing in itself being that offensive nor does it absolved the offended from being biased.
I don't know why we shouldn't treat these statements the same way we treat ""Normal" offended until we can actually look into the original thing we're responding to.
Also the OP and most of the thread took that title completely differently than you felt. But you got mildly puffed up about it so i guess you must be right. /s
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Postby Mushet » Sun Oct 13, 2019 4:26 am

Petty, and though book burning has been used as mass censorship they're just burning the one book so whatever.
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Sun Oct 13, 2019 5:06 am

Oh my good, those poor books. :roll: Burning your own private property is legal, and this ain't mass censorship.

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Burning books, hmmmmmmmmmm. Where have we seen that before? ((((Godwin's law applied))))
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Postby Uiiop » Sun Oct 13, 2019 5:13 am

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Oh my good, those poor books. :roll: Burning your own private property is legal, and this ain't mass censorship.

Fair point.
The Book Burnings of old was in an institutionalized context distinct from book burning in general.

That being said One can do an individuals or small group book burning to invoke that symbolism as a wish or a threat.

Kinda like running your ringer around a throat can mean you want a guy guillotined or just saying "PWNED".
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LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Oh my good, those poor books. :roll: Burning your own private property is legal, and this ain't mass censorship.


I don't think anyone here is contesting the right to burn one's own property. This is not a legal issue, but this book burning is a troubling example of the extreme and paranoid reactionary politics of our era, that many staight, white males have become convinced that they are oppressed. Any mention of the words "white privilege" send them into a frenzy.
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Uiiop wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Oh my good, those poor books. :roll: Burning your own private property is legal, and this ain't mass censorship.

Fair point.
The Book Burnings of old was in an institutionalized context distinct from book burning in general.

That being said One can do an individuals or small group book burning to invoke that symbolism as a wish or a threat.

Kinda like running your ringer around a throat can mean you want a guy guillotined or just saying "PWNED".

The burning of a book does not inherently mean death the same way a finger around the throat does. I doubt these students want to kill her or anything like that. If they wore Nazi uniforms or something like that, then I would be more sympathetic to your viewpoint.

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Postby Uiiop » Sun Oct 13, 2019 5:21 am

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
Uiiop wrote:Fair point.
The Book Burnings of old was in an institutionalized context distinct from book burning in general.

That being said One can do an individuals or small group book burning to invoke that symbolism as a wish or a threat.

Kinda like running your ringer around a throat can mean you want a guy guillotined or just saying "PWNED".

The burning of a book does not inherently mean death the same way a finger around the throat does. I doubt these students want to kill her or anything like that. If they wore Nazi uniforms or something like that, then I would be more sympathetic to your viewpoint.

I wasn't saying book burning means Death per se. More like censorship and damnatio memoriae.
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Postby Andsed » Sun Oct 13, 2019 5:29 am

I mean I very much disagree with burning books and I find it very petty and stupid but if the books were their private property then they can burn as many books as they want.
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Postby Uiiop » Sun Oct 13, 2019 5:33 am

Andsed wrote:I mean I very much disagree with burning books and I find it very petty and stupid but if the books were their private property then they can burn as many books as they want.

Sure but is anything is calling for banning burning things or just saying it's bad to do?
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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Sun Oct 13, 2019 5:34 am

Buying a book just so you can burn it, seems like evidence that you are probably a moron.
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Sun Oct 13, 2019 5:37 am

Uiiop wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:The burning of a book does not inherently mean death the same way a finger around the throat does. I doubt these students want to kill her or anything like that. If they wore Nazi uniforms or something like that, then I would be more sympathetic to your viewpoint.

I wasn't saying book burning means Death per se. More like censorship and damnatio memoriae.

Regardless of what others think, I'm going to just see it as venting unless they come out and call for censorship, or it turns out they subscribe to an ideology (such as Nazism) that entails censorship.

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