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Postby Des-Bal » Sun Oct 13, 2019 7:36 am

Wow they objected to her presence, allowed her to speak, voiced their dissenting opinions in a way that furthered discussion, and protested in a fashion that had no impact on anybody except those who voluntarily chose to be part of it. This is basically a masterclass on how to protest on campus and not to be a dick. Book burning is associated with anti-intellectuals, authoritarians, and other assholes because when you round up a bunch of books and set them on fire to prevent the ideas inside from spreading it's generally an anti-speech thing. This looks like they took one copy of one book they didn't like and burned it on a grill. This was more of a "fuck your book" than a "fuck the spread of ideas" and I see no issue with that.
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Postby Ors Might » Sun Oct 13, 2019 7:46 am

Des-Bal wrote:Wow they objected to her presence, allowed her to speak, voiced their dissenting opinions in a way that furthered discussion, and protested in a fashion that had no impact on anybody except those who voluntarily chose to be part of it. This is basically a masterclass on how to protest on campus and not to be a dick. Book burning is associated with anti-intellectuals, authoritarians, and other assholes because when you round up a bunch of books and set them on fire to prevent the ideas inside from spreading it's generally an anti-speech thing. This looks like they took one copy of one book they didn't like and burned it on a grill. This was more of a "fuck your book" than a "fuck the spread of ideas" and I see no issue with that.

Actually, yeah, this was a fairly tame and peaceful protest. Based on what I’ve read about the author, I can understand why a protest happened even if I disagree with book burning on principle.
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Postby The Emerald Legion » Sun Oct 13, 2019 8:09 am

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Well, that’s a rather bullshit policy. Hopefully the college gets the message and withdraws the book as required reading.

Why? Why not debate whether ideas have merit, rather than try to burn them out of existence?


They did that. The Authors response was that attempting to debate her ideas is proof of her ideas.

So they burned a single copy of the book that they personally owned.
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Postby The Fascist Undead » Sun Oct 13, 2019 8:12 am

I love Book Burning. It makes a Great bonfire.
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Postby The Fascist Undead » Sun Oct 13, 2019 8:15 am

Bible Burning is even greater.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sun Oct 13, 2019 8:27 am

I see nothing wrong here. Author came to campus acting like a racist douchebag, students burned her book in protest.
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Postby Mzeusia » Sun Oct 13, 2019 8:27 am

The burning is protected by the first amendment, and as others have pointed out, it was a very small thing done on a grill. I would think that a conversation between the author and students who disagreed might be more productive, but oh well.
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Mzeusia wrote:The burning is protected by the first amendment, and as others have pointed out, it was a very small thing done on a grill. I would think that a conversation between the author and students who disagreed might be more productive, but oh well.

I'm going to burn the Mzeusian Library then >_>
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Postby SD_Film Artists » Sun Oct 13, 2019 8:29 am

Des-Bal wrote:Wow they objected to her presence, allowed her to speak, voiced their dissenting opinions in a way that furthered discussion, and protested in a fashion that had no impact on anybody except those who voluntarily chose to be part of it. This is basically a masterclass on how to protest on campus and not to be a dick. Book burning is associated with anti-intellectuals, authoritarians, and other assholes because when you round up a bunch of books and set them on fire to prevent the ideas inside from spreading it's generally an anti-speech thing. This looks like they took one copy of one book they didn't like and burned it on a grill. This was more of a "fuck your book" than a "fuck the spread of ideas" and I see no issue with that.


Very well put. It's also nice to see that the politics aren't all one-way in universities.
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Postby Proctopeo » Sun Oct 13, 2019 9:07 am

Crockerland wrote:Israelies burn German Author's Book*
*(Minor sidenote: Book was "Mein Kampf")


Nobody, nobody, gives a shit that she is a "Latina Author", what a dishonest title.
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/briannasacks/georgia-southern-burned-latina-authors-book

"She came to our school and, the audience was predominantly white, and she came in and was attacking white people for an hour, putting all these stereotypes and generalizations on us," said one 18-year-old attendee. "Like all white people are privileged and racist."

Another student said the audience reacted when the author stated that most white people "needed to be removed from authority positions because two-thirds of people in high positions should not be white."


It sounds like she's a racist cunt and that's why they burned her book. Nobody cares what race she is.

Huh, this changes a lot then.
Still ill advised to burn the book, but I'd damn sure be demanding that she never be invited back to campus and her books removed from any and all classes.
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Crockerland wrote:Israelies burn German Author's Book*
*(Minor sidenote: Book was "Mein Kampf")


Nobody, nobody, gives a shit that she is a "Latina Author", what a dishonest title.
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/briannasacks/georgia-southern-burned-latina-authors-book

"She came to our school and, the audience was predominantly white, and she came in and was attacking white people for an hour, putting all these stereotypes and generalizations on us," said one 18-year-old attendee. "Like all white people are privileged and racist."

Another student said the audience reacted when the author stated that most white people "needed to be removed from authority positions because two-thirds of people in high positions should not be white."


It sounds like she's a racist cunt and that's why they burned her book. Nobody cares what race she is.


Based on how I've seen reactionaries respond to even the most polite and nuanced examinations of white privilege, I am almost certain these students completely missed the point and twisted her words.
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Cekoviu wrote:Book burning is cowardly, stupid, and does nothing productive.


Writing books about non-existent problems is cowardly, stupid, and does nothing productive as well.
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Crockerland wrote:Israelies burn German Author's Book*
*(Minor sidenote: Book was "Mein Kampf")


Nobody, nobody, gives a shit that she is a "Latina Author", what a dishonest title.
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/briannasacks/georgia-southern-burned-latina-authors-book

"She came to our school and, the audience was predominantly white, and she came in and was attacking white people for an hour, putting all these stereotypes and generalizations on us," said one 18-year-old attendee. "Like all white people are privileged and racist."

Another student said the audience reacted when the author stated that most white people "needed to be removed from authority positions because two-thirds of people in high positions should not be white."


It sounds like she's a racist cunt and that's why they burned her book. Nobody cares what race she is.


Based on how I've seen reactionaries respond to even the most polite and nuanced examinations of white privilege, I am almost certain these students completely missed the point and twisted her words.


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Page wrote:
Crockerland wrote:Israelies burn German Author's Book*
*(Minor sidenote: Book was "Mein Kampf")


Nobody, nobody, gives a shit that she is a "Latina Author", what a dishonest title.
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/briannasacks/georgia-southern-burned-latina-authors-book

"She came to our school and, the audience was predominantly white, and she came in and was attacking white people for an hour, putting all these stereotypes and generalizations on us," said one 18-year-old attendee. "Like all white people are privileged and racist."

Another student said the audience reacted when the author stated that most white people "needed to be removed from authority positions because two-thirds of people in high positions should not be white."


It sounds like she's a racist cunt and that's why they burned her book. Nobody cares what race she is.


Based on how I've seen reactionaries respond to even the most polite and nuanced examinations of white privilege, I am almost certain these students completely missed the point and twisted her words.

I find that doubtful, especially since most "examinations" of white privilege are anything but polite and nuanced.
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Postby Des-Bal » Sun Oct 13, 2019 9:18 am

Proctopeo wrote:Huh, this changes a lot then.
Still ill advised to burn the book, but I'd damn sure be demanding that she never be invited back to campus and her books removed from any and all classes.


See that's insane to me. You're objecting to the symbolic act of burning a book but supporting an actual effort to extirpate knowledge and discussion.
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Des-Bal wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:Huh, this changes a lot then.
Still ill advised to burn the book, but I'd damn sure be demanding that she never be invited back to campus and her books removed from any and all classes.


See that's insane to me. You're objecting to the symbolic act of burning a book but supporting an actual effort to extirpate knowledge and discussion.


I think it's insane that you think physically destroying a book and barring it from campus are virtually the same thing.
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Blaming one's problems on race only makes sense if the law itself discriminates against different races. Since it hasn't in over fifty years, racism and race-based anything should be a thing of the past. The only reason that it isn't is because people who probably weren't even alive when the law enshrined racism wish to keep bringing it up. As a white person, I don't bloody care whether or not white people are in positions of power. This "us vs. them" mentality is ridiculous. While burning a book is kinda silly, it's worth noting that this woman is more of a racist than the book-burners are.
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Des-Bal wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:Huh, this changes a lot then.
Still ill advised to burn the book, but I'd damn sure be demanding that she never be invited back to campus and her books removed from any and all classes.


See that's insane to me. You're objecting to the symbolic act of burning a book but supporting an actual effort to extirpate knowledge and discussion.

It doesn't sound like she brings much to the table except for her racism, though. At least, not anything one can't get from a dozen other authors.
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Proctopeo wrote:
Des-Bal wrote:
See that's insane to me. You're objecting to the symbolic act of burning a book but supporting an actual effort to extirpate knowledge and discussion.

It doesn't sound like she brings much to the table except for her racism, though. At least, not anything one can't get from a dozen other authors.
Keep the concept, change the author.


tbh i would rather recycle her book and have them reprinted into bibles.
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Des-Bal wrote:Wow they objected to her presence, allowed her to speak, voiced their dissenting opinions in a way that furthered discussion, and protested in a fashion that had no impact on anybody except those who voluntarily chose to be part of it. This is basically a masterclass on how to protest on campus and not to be a dick. Book burning is associated with anti-intellectuals, authoritarians, and other assholes because when you round up a bunch of books and set them on fire to prevent the ideas inside from spreading it's generally an anti-speech thing. This looks like they took one copy of one book they didn't like and burned it on a grill. This was more of a "fuck your book" than a "fuck the spread of ideas" and I see no issue with that.

Amazing. Instead of blockading and threatening violence causing the campus to spend millions on security, they don’t bother anyone except the occasional person with asthma (who probably steered clear of the fire in the first place0
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Proctopeo wrote:
Des-Bal wrote:
See that's insane to me. You're objecting to the symbolic act of burning a book but supporting an actual effort to extirpate knowledge and discussion.

It doesn't sound like she brings much to the table except for her racism, though. At least, not anything one can't get from a dozen other authors.
Keep the concept, change the author.


That's the thing, though. The concept itself is racist by default. "White Privilege" is a myth invented by lazy racists to justify their lazy racism. They can't be assed to work for a living like the rest of us, so they have to resort to insinuating white people are somehow favored above non-white people and that no white person in America has ever earned their wealth/position through merit and hard work. It's bullshit and it's untrue. They go "you didn't earn that" because they lack the willpower and motivation to earn that very thing for themselves, but instead of discovering a work ethic they'd rather just blame someone else for their problems. Then the idea gains traction with people who don't know better and believe it, causing garbage like this author and her shitty book to become a thing.
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Proctopeo wrote:It doesn't sound like she brings much to the table except for her racism, though. At least, not anything one can't get from a dozen other authors.
Keep the concept, change the author.


That's the thing, though. The concept itself is racist by default. "White Privilege" is a myth invented by lazy racists to justify their lazy racism. They can't be assed to work for a living like the rest of us, so they have to resort to insinuating white people are somehow favored above non-white people and that no white person in America has ever earned their wealth/position through merit and hard work. It's bullshit and it's untrue. They go "you didn't earn that" because they lack the willpower and motivation to earn that very thing for themselves, but instead of discovering a work ethic they'd rather just blame someone else for their problems. Then the idea gains traction with people who don't know better and believe it, causing garbage like this author and her shitty book to become a thing.


Truly spoken like somebody who hasn't put an ounce of effort into understanding what exactly people are talking about, and making up their own ideas as to what it means based on a surface-level outlook.
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Burning stupid, agenda-driven books like that is freaking awesome!

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The Fascist Undead wrote:I love Book Burning. It makes a Great bonfire.

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I’ll start believing white privilege once the highest earning racial group in the US is white
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