Uganda to reinstate death penalty for Homosexuality

[Sovaal]

Where in the Bible does it say that? Exact verse or verses please, quoted verbatim from the KJ version.

Where is the evidence that gay is biological

Examples of homosexual behavior in numerous species, such as penguins and giraffes.

[Maqkaradj]

Where is the evidence that gay is biological

Examples of homosexual behavior in numerous species, such as penguins and giraffes.

Yeah but God creates ugliness so we can appreciate beauty

[Genivaria]

Examples of homosexual behavior in numerous species, such as penguins and giraffes.

Yeah but God creates ugliness so we can appreciate beauty

That's a cute opinion you have but I really don't give a shit about.

[Lamoni]

My Bible:

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/massive-study-finds-no-single-genetic-cause-of-same-sex-sexual-behavior/

Did you read your own study? Because yeah, no single gene. No shit. Fucking poodle fur color is controlled by 7 genes, did you expect sexuality to be done by one.
It does say that it’s a mixture of genetic and environmental factors, however.

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[Lamoni]

Did you read your own study? Because yeah, no single gene. No shit. Fucking poodle fur color is controlled by 7 genes, did you expect sexuality to be done by one.
It does say that it’s a mixture of genetic and environmental factors, however.

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Shitposting and pic spam won’t get you anywhere

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

ok
airstrikes and pulling aids funding?
the fuck have you guys been smoking?

Tbh my knee jerk reaction to this was " Shitty dictator ship doing genoside? Invade and set up a real demorocy."


But the more I think about that the more I think that maybe war isn't the answer.

It's still really really fucked up and no nation on earth should ever kill gay people from being gay.

[Salus Maior]

The Bible

Where in the Bible does it say that? Exact verse or verses please, quoted verbatim from the KJ version.

Why the King James version?

[Salus Maior]

Examples of homosexual behavior in numerous species, such as penguins and giraffes.

I don't think that proves that it's strictly biological.

And I don't find the argument "Animals do it so people can do it!" to be particularly compelling.

[The New California Republic]

Where in the Bible does it say that? Exact verse or verses please, quoted verbatim from the KJ version.

Why the King James version?

Mainly for pragmatic reasons (it was the version that was easiest to get off the shelf at the time ).

[Sovaal]

Examples of homosexual behavior in numerous species, such as penguins and giraffes.

Yeah but God creates ugliness so we can appreciate beauty

Well with this prime example I guess he does.

[Salus Maior]

Why the King James version?

Mainly for pragmatic reasons (it was the version that was easiest to get off the shelf at the time ).

Well, I don't think the Bible has biological commentary.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Examples of homosexual behavior in numerous species, such as penguins and giraffes.

I don't think that proves that it's strictly biological.

And I don't find the argument "Animals do it so people can do it!" to be particularly compelling.

They are still part of nature.

[The New California Republic]

And I don't find the argument "Animals do it so people can do it!" to be particularly compelling.

But ninety nine times out of a hundred that isn't the argument. The reason people cite the homosexuality of animals is to counter the argument that it is unnatural or a purely human behaviour.

[Salus Maior]

I don't think that proves that it's strictly biological.

And I don't find the argument "Animals do it so people can do it!" to be particularly compelling.

They are still part of nature.

Ok? So?

If Hamsters have too many children, they eat them. I guess because that's "natural" humans should also be free to eat their newborns.

[The New California Republic]

Mainly for pragmatic reasons (it was the version that was easiest to get off the shelf at the time ).

Well, I don't think the Bible has biological commentary.

I know that, hence why I called Maqkaradj out on that bullshit.

[Ifreann]

Where in the Bible does it say that? Exact verse or verses please, quoted verbatim from the KJ version.

Why the King James version?

All the thees and thous are fun. Sounds more Bible-y that way.

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Examples of homosexual behavior in numerous species, such as penguins and giraffes.

I don't think that proves that it's strictly biological.

Well what else would it be? Technological?

And I don't find the argument "Animals do it so people can do it!" to be particularly compelling.

Cool, no one's making that argument. People are refuting the argument that homosexuality is unnatural by pointing out that it occurs in nature.

[The New California Republic]

They are still part of nature.

Ok? So?

If Hamsters have too many children, they eat them. I guess because that's "natural" humans should also be free to eat their newborns.

And I don't find the argument "Animals do it so people can do it!" to be particularly compelling.

But ninety nine times out of a hundred that isn't the argument. The reason people cite the homosexuality of animals is to counter the argument that it is unnatural or a purely human behaviour.

[Sovaal]

Examples of homosexual behavior in numerous species, such as penguins and giraffes.

I don't think that proves that it's strictly biological.

And I don't find the argument "Animals do it so people can do it!" to be particularly compelling.

Biological as in the sense that it’s not (purely) a product of human society.

And if you noticed I wasn’t using the “animals do it so we should too@ argument, but rather replying to the “homosexuality isn’t natural” argument.

[Salus Maior]

And I don't find the argument "Animals do it so people can do it!" to be particularly compelling.

But ninety nine times out of a hundred that isn't the argument. The reason people cite the homosexuality of animals is to counter the argument that it is unnatural or a purely human behaviour.

Yeah, I don't find that argument against homosexuality very compelling either, because it somehow places animals as humanity's betters. Which is kind of silly.

[The New California Republic]

But ninety nine times out of a hundred that isn't the argument. The reason people cite the homosexuality of animals is to counter the argument that it is unnatural or a purely human behaviour.

Yeah, I don't find that argument against homosexuality very compelling either, because it somehow places animals as humanity's betters. Which is kind of silly.

How does it?

[Salus Maior]

Well what else would it be? Technological?

Psychological. At least in some cases.

While I'm not opposed to the idea that homosexuality may have a genetic basis, in my own experience most LGBT people I've met have had serious trauma involving the loss of a parent, or was abused as children by family members in one way or another. I know that's anecdotal, but nearly every LGBT person I've met have had serious childhood trauma in common, so I suspect that psychology can play a role in peoples' sexual preference as they develop.

[Salus Maior]

Yeah, I don't find that argument against homosexuality very compelling either, because it somehow places animals as humanity's betters. Which is kind of silly.

How does it?

It's placing animals, or "nature" as a sort of moral high ground. Something that humans should aspire to be more like.

And that's ridiculous, because humans are the only creatures to have complex morality and transcendent ideals.

[Ifreann]

Well what else would it be? Technological?

Psychological. At least in some cases.

Well I won't speak for you, but my brain, the thing that does my psychology, is a biological majigger made of meat and goo. At least I think it is, I've never checked.

While I'm not opposed to the idea that homosexuality may have a genetic basis, in my own experience most LGBT people I've met have had serious trauma involving the loss of a parent, or was abused as children by family members in one way or another. I know that's anecdotal, but nearly every LGBT person I've met have had serious childhood trauma in common, so I suspect that psychology can play a role in peoples' sexual preference as they develop.

You're not opposed to factual evidence, but you've got some bullshit you made up yourself that you know is worthless but want to be taken seriously regardless.

Cool.

[Salus Maior]

Psychological. At least in some cases.

Well I won't speak for you, but my brain, the thing that does my psychology, is a biological majigger made of meat and goo. At least I think it is, I've never checked.

While I'm not opposed to the idea that homosexuality may have a genetic basis, in my own experience most LGBT people I've met have had serious trauma involving the loss of a parent, or was abused as children by family members in one way or another. I know that's anecdotal, but nearly every LGBT person I've met have had serious childhood trauma in common, so I suspect that psychology can play a role in peoples' sexual preference as they develop.

You're not opposed to factual evidence, but you've got some bullshit you made up yourself that you know is worthless but want to be taken seriously regardless.

Cool.

Psychology is how one mentally develops and its not fixed, as opposed to what we're calling "biological" which is genetic determinism. Come on, you're smarter than that, you have to know what psychology is.

I didn't make up the fact that they have had childhood trauma in common, that's my observation and considering I said it was anecdotal people can take it or leave it on that basis. Although I think it's far from bullshit to consider that psychology plays a role in peoples' developing preferences. Honestly, you're getting way too offended for what I'm actually musing, you realize I'm not criticizing anyone by saying this, let alone you personally?

[Veceria]

Well I won't speak for you, but my brain, the thing that does my psychology, is a biological majigger made of meat and goo. At least I think it is, I've never checked.


You're not opposed to factual evidence, but you've got some bullshit you made up yourself that you know is worthless but want to be taken seriously regardless.

Cool.

Psychology is how one mentally develops and its not fixed, as opposed to what we're calling "biological" which is genetic determinism. Come on, you're smarter than that, you have to know what psychology is.

I didn't make up the fact that they have had childhood trauma in common, that's my observation and considering I said it was anecdotal people can take it or leave it on that basis. Honestly, you're getting way too offended for what I'm actually musing, you realize I'm not criticizing anyone by saying this, let alone you personally?

I know more straight people who experienced abuse than non-straight people who experienced abuse. Like, many more. To be completely honest, I don't know a single non-hetero person in real life that was abused or had some other trauma in their past (including myself), while I know at least a dozen hetero people who experienced abuse.