Uganda to reinstate death penalty for Homosexuality

[New Bremerton]

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After their last attempt was thrown out 5 years ago due to procedural technicalities, Uganda is trying again to make homosexuality a capital crime. However, homosexual acts are already criminalized in Uganda. This new law, which is expected to pass, would not only make it punishable by death, it would also make education on homosexuality illegal: "Homosexuality is not natural to Ugandans, but there has been a massive recruitment by gay people in schools, and especially among the youth, where they are promoting the falsehood that people are born like that," Ethics and Integrity Minister Simon Lokodo told the Thomson Reuters Foundation.
"Our current penal law is limited. It only criminalises the act. We want it made clear that anyone who is even involved in promotion and recruitment has to be criminalised. Those that do grave acts will be given the death sentence."


So…NSG, where do we go from here?

This is the third time in a row already. When are they going to fucking learn that gay people deserve to be treated equally? Countries that are dead set on exterminating LGBT people deserve to be sanctioned and isolated, but it appears that withholding aid is insufficient to bring Uganda in line with the 21st century. I can't say any more because site rules prohibit me from doing so. I'll reserve that for Facebook.

[Greed and Death]

it is your words youre shoving into our mouth.

Not really, there where Christian groups claiming the bible support them, in America, who wanted to have gays killed. Whether you think the bible does or does not support them is irrelevant to whether Christian are in fact supporting said policies, and push said policies abroad since they cannot achieve them at home.

In fairness Scott Lively (the largest evangelical influence) did not want the death sentence, he wanted conversion treatment as punishment. Think the UK in the 1950's.

[Luziyca]

Really hope the international community pressures Uganda to drop the bill.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Fucking dictator state does shitty things to stop its own citizens from being free.

[Luminesa]

Not really, there where Christian groups claiming the bible support them, in America, who wanted to have gays killed. Whether you think the bible does or does not support them is irrelevant to whether Christian are in fact supporting said policies, and push said policies abroad since they cannot achieve them at home.

In fairness Scott Lively (the largest evangelical influence) did not want the death sentence, he wanted conversion treatment as punishment. Think the UK in the 1950's.

Am I an outlier if I say I have no idea who that is? Not that my singular knowledge would make him insignificant, but like...I guess I missed something here?

[Neutraligon]

Not really, there where Christian groups claiming the bible support them, in America, who wanted to have gays killed. Whether you think the bible does or does not support them is irrelevant to whether Christian are in fact supporting said policies, and push said policies abroad since they cannot achieve them at home.

In fairness Scott Lively (the largest evangelical influence) did not want the death sentence, he wanted conversion treatment as punishment. Think the UK in the 1950's.

Livey may ave wanted it limited to that, but the excuses he used to support his point are exactly the same ones being used to justify the death penalty.

[Greed and Death]

In fairness Scott Lively (the largest evangelical influence) did not want the death sentence, he wanted conversion treatment as punishment. Think the UK in the 1950's.

Am I an outlier if I say I have no idea who that is? Not that my singular knowledge would make him insignificant, but like...I guess I missed something here?

He was the one Sexual Minorities Uganda (SMUG) attempted to sue using the alien torts statute.

https://ccrjustice.org/home/press-cente ... s-anti-gay

The judge ruled in Lively's favor but very clearly did not want to.

[Luminesa]

Am I an outlier if I say I have no idea who that is? Not that my singular knowledge would make him insignificant, but like...I guess I missed something here?

He was the one Sexual Minorities Uganda (SMUG) attempted to sue using the alien torts statute.

https://ccrjustice.org/home/press-cente ... s-anti-gay

The judge ruled in Lively's favor but very clearly did not want to.

So was there some kind of miscommunication when he didn’t want the death penalty but Uganda went ahead with it anyway, or was he secretly funding hunting for the deaths of homosexual people in Uganda? That seems like a pretty big gap in communication, given the former, but Nigeria has hated gay people for a long time.

[Pacomia]

Wait, reinstate?

So they got rid of it, then decided they wanted it again?
...Why?

[Greed and Death]

He was the one Sexual Minorities Uganda (SMUG) attempted to sue using the alien torts statute.

https://ccrjustice.org/home/press-cente ... s-anti-gay

The judge ruled in Lively's favor but very clearly did not want to.

So was there some kind of miscommunication when he didn’t want the death penalty but Uganda went ahead with it anyway, or was he secretly funding hunting for the deaths of homosexual people in Uganda? That seems like a pretty big gap in communication, given the former, but Nigeria has hated gay people for a long time.

More likely he pushed for making it illegal.

And then Uganda said illegal so we shoot them right ?

And despite all attempts to dissuade them from shooting the gay people Uganda though shooting was cheaper than rehab and prison.

[Luminesa]

So was there some kind of miscommunication when he didn’t want the death penalty but Uganda went ahead with it anyway, or was he secretly funding hunting for the deaths of homosexual people in Uganda? That seems like a pretty big gap in communication, given the former, but Nigeria has hated gay people for a long time.

More likely he pushed for making it illegal.

And then Uganda said illegal so we shoot them right ?

And despite all attempts to dissuade them from shooting the gay people Uganda though shooting was cheaper than rehab and prison.

And they have a lot more weapons lying around as well. Not that being gay should mean a person should be put in jail either, but Uganda is more used to ruling its people with guns anyway.

[Gormwood]

Calling for Uganda to be clamped down while doing nothing about American Evangelicals that gave Uganda the idea to begin with. Treating the symptoms without curing the cause.

Likely because they were protected by free speech.

Uganda has freedom of speech now? Guess that means terrorists are also protected by freedom of speech.

[Rojava Free State]

Not really, there where Christian groups claiming the bible support them, in America, who wanted to have gays killed. Whether you think the bible does or does not support them is irrelevant to whether Christian are in fact supporting said policies, and push said policies abroad since they cannot achieve them at home.

In fairness Scott Lively (the largest evangelical influence) did not want the death sentence, he wanted conversion treatment as punishment. Think the UK in the 1950's.

Imagine a world where people don't completely lose their minds over two men kissing.

[Greed and Death]

Likely because they were protected by free speech.

Uganda has freedom of speech now? Guess that means terrorists are also protected by freedom of speech.

America does and wont extradite someone for exercising their right to free speech.

[Cekoviu]

Fuck them and the American and English assholes who brought homophobia to Uganda.

[Gormwood]

Uganda has freedom of speech now? Guess that means terrorists are also protected by freedom of speech.

America does and wont extradite someone for exercising their right to free speech.

This is way more than yelling "Fire" in a cfowded theater.

[The Alma Mater]

Uganda has freedom of speech now? Guess that means terrorists are also protected by freedom of speech.

America does and wont extradite someone for exercising their right to free speech.

Is it free speech if you give someone money to kill a group of people ?

[Greed and Death]

America does and wont extradite someone for exercising their right to free speech.

This is way more than yelling "Fire" in a cfowded theater.

He was addressing a government suggesting laws.

That is core protected speech.

[Greed and Death]

America does and wont extradite someone for exercising their right to free speech.

Is it free speech if you give someone money to kill a group of people ?

What next will favoring war be made illegal.

[Genivaria]

Sounds like Uganda needs a regime change.

[Greed and Death]

Sounds like Uganda needs a regime change.

It is a Democratically elected government regime changing them would be against international law.

Maybe if they had a lot of oil and were threatening to cut off the world from that oil it could be made legal.

[The Alma Mater]

Is it free speech if you give someone money to kill a group of people ?

What next will favoring war be made illegal.

You evade the question.
American Christians have given key members of the government of Uganda significant amounts of money to "encourage" them to kill gays.
Is that merely "free speech" or is that a crime ?

[Greed and Death]

What next will favoring war be made illegal.

You evade the question.
American Christians have given key members of the government of Uganda significant amounts of money to "encourage" them to kill gays.
Is that merely "free speech" or is that a crime ?

Can you source that claim ?

As I read it they built schools and hospitals independent of any internal polices the country made. Also I don't know how rich you think Evangelicals are but I doubt their money comes close to international aid they receive.

[Genivaria]

What next will favoring war be made illegal.

You evade the question.
American Christians have given key members of the government of Uganda significant amounts of money to "encourage" them to kill gays.
Is that merely "free speech" or is that a crime ?

Sounds like conspiracy to commit crimes against humanity.

[Greed and Death]

You evade the question.
American Christians have given key members of the government of Uganda significant amounts of money to "encourage" them to kill gays.
Is that merely "free speech" or is that a crime ?

Sounds like conspiracy to commit crimes against humanity.

They gave money to Uganda sounds more like something pulled out of someone's ass.