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Which side you're sympathic towards?

Turkey
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13%
Rojava/SDF
262
63%
Neither or unsure
101
24%
 
Total votes : 417

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Loben The 2nd
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Postby Loben The 2nd » Thu Oct 10, 2019 3:52 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
Loben The 2nd wrote:the fact Rojava are running away kinda shows their true effectiveness.


Only people I see running are Americans


cute but false.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Thu Oct 10, 2019 3:54 pm

Loben The 2nd wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
Only people I see running are Americans


cute but false.


You wish. Must suck knowing the president of the "greatest country on earth" basically instructed the military to pull out and abandon its allies. That line of at my vehicles is leaving Syria and leaving dignity even faster. Keep telling yourself that trump didn't fuck up while almost everyone else disagrees with you and the dickhead in chief
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Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Postby Loben The 2nd » Thu Oct 10, 2019 3:56 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
Loben The 2nd wrote:
cute but false.


You wish. Must suck knowing the president basically instructed the military to pull out and abandon its allies. That line of at my vehicles is leaving Syria and leaving dignity even faster. Keep telling yourself that trump didn't fuck up while almost everyone else disagrees with you and the dickhead in chief


we abandoned the South Vietnamese, we abandoned Poland, we abandoned the Tsarists in the Russian civil war.

all who were more favorable allies then some shit heels like Rojava.
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Postby Vetalia » Thu Oct 10, 2019 3:58 pm

Loben The 2nd wrote:we abandoned the South Vietnamese, we abandoned Poland, we abandoned the Tsarists in the Russian civil war.

all who were more favorable allies then some shit heels like Rojava.


The US was not allied with Poland in the years leading up to WWII, unless this is the Trump version of history in which the landings at Normandy were nearly a complete disaster owing to the failure of the Kurds to enter the war on the side of the Allies.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:00 pm

Loben The 2nd wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
You wish. Must suck knowing the president basically instructed the military to pull out and abandon its allies. That line of at my vehicles is leaving Syria and leaving dignity even faster. Keep telling yourself that trump didn't fuck up while almost everyone else disagrees with you and the dickhead in chief


we abandoned the South Vietnamese, we abandoned Poland, we abandoned the Tsarists in the Russian civil war.

all who were more favorable allies then some shit heels like Rojava.


Tell me when you fight and give your all on a battlefield to stop ISIS. Better yet let me know when you fight on a battlefield for anything besides a call of duty death match. You've been talking all that shit but at day's end you have a comfortable little roof over your head and don't need to do struggle to survive everyday while the most overrated nation on earth next to North Korea abandons you and abandons the last few liters of its honor and honesty.

Just admit it loben. America is a cowardly republic that lies to its friends, and you and I are living in the middle of it
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Postby Loben The 2nd » Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:00 pm

Vetalia wrote:
Loben The 2nd wrote:we abandoned the South Vietnamese, we abandoned Poland, we abandoned the Tsarists in the Russian civil war.

all who were more favorable allies then some shit heels like Rojava.


The US was not allied with Poland in the years leading up to WWII, unless this is the Trump version of history in which the landings at Normandy were nearly a complete disaster owing to the failure of the Kurds to enter the war on the side of the Allies.


During and after the war.

hell the reds can own up to that one considering they merely watched the warsaw uprising get brutally savaged.

but thats socialists for you.
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Postby Loben The 2nd » Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:01 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
Loben The 2nd wrote:
we abandoned the South Vietnamese, we abandoned Poland, we abandoned the Tsarists in the Russian civil war.

all who were more favorable allies then some shit heels like Rojava.


Tell me when you fight and give your all on a battlefield to stop ISIS. Better yet let me know when you fight on a battlefield for anything besides a call of duty death match. You've been talking all that shit but at day's end you have a comfortable little roof over your head and don't need to do struggle to survive everyday while the most overrated nation on earth next to North Korea abandons you and abandons the last few liters of its honor and honesty.

Just admit it loben. America is a cowardly republic that lies to its friends, and you and I are living in the middle of it



must suck knowing that your world view is incompatible with the real world.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:01 pm

Vetalia wrote:
Loben The 2nd wrote:we abandoned the South Vietnamese, we abandoned Poland, we abandoned the Tsarists in the Russian civil war.

all who were more favorable allies then some shit heels like Rojava.


The US was not allied with Poland in the years leading up to WWII, unless this is the Trump version of history in which the landings at Normandy were nearly a complete disaster owing to the failure of the Kurds to enter the war on the side of the Allies.


Friendly reminder that there are still some people who haven't figured out yet that their so called idol the God emperor is the dumbest of america's idiots.
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Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Postby Rojava Free State » Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:02 pm

Loben The 2nd wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
Tell me when you fight and give your all on a battlefield to stop ISIS. Better yet let me know when you fight on a battlefield for anything besides a call of duty death match. You've been talking all that shit but at day's end you have a comfortable little roof over your head and don't need to do struggle to survive everyday while the most overrated nation on earth next to North Korea abandons you and abandons the last few liters of its honor and honesty.

Just admit it loben. America is a cowardly republic that lies to its friends, and you and I are living in the middle of it



must suck knowing that your world view is incompatible with the real world.


Must suck calling the kurds pussies when you probably never even served in an army one day of your life. Like you would make it one day in the Syrian killing fields. Once again, your condoning backstabbing allies. You don't support bravery. YoU support being a coward
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Postby Loben The 2nd » Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:03 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
Loben The 2nd wrote:

must suck knowing that your world view is incompatible with the real world.


Must suck calling the kurds pussies when you probably never even served in an army one day of your life. Like you would make it one day in the Syrian killing fields. Once again, your condoning backstabbing allies. You don't support bravery. YoU support being a coward


i dont condone cockblocking the turks who have grievances to air
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Postby Vetalia » Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:04 pm

Loben The 2nd wrote:During and after the war.

hell the reds can own up to that one considering they merely watched the warsaw uprising get brutally savaged.

but thats socialists for you.


No argument there, it's not like the Soviets were any better before when they buddied up with Hitler and carved Poland in half, including the various massacres that happened after they took it over.

That being said there wasn't really anything the US could have done realistically...before the war the American people didn't remotely want to get involved and after the US was seriously outmatched by the Soviet conventional forces due to the sheer amount of conventional forces they had stationed in the east compared to our own. Had we started a war immediately after the end of WWII the Soviets would have steamrolled the rest of Western Europe.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:05 pm

Loben The 2nd wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
Must suck calling the kurds pussies when you probably never even served in an army one day of your life. Like you would make it one day in the Syrian killing fields. Once again, your condoning backstabbing allies. You don't support bravery. YoU support being a coward


i dont condone cockblocking the turks who have grievances to air


Lmao what grievances? https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/ka ... MZN#page=2

Oh you mean those kinds? Yeah that's the guys you basically support. You also support abandoning the people who helped us fight ISIS. in other words you support being a backstabbing piece of shit. You should know if we end up in a middle east war again then it'll be too soon and this time I doubt anyone would want to help us.
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Postby The Noviaskiet » Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:06 pm

F R E E R O J A V A! F R E E H O N G K O N G! L O N G L I V E T H E R E V O L U T I O N!
Turkey has no right to impede on a territory so innocent and free as Rojava, one of the worlds last remaining bastions of a viable alternative to capitalism, and an end to the global neo-liberal order!
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Postby Loben The 2nd » Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:06 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
Loben The 2nd wrote:
i dont condone cockblocking the turks who have grievances to air


Lmao what grievances? https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/ka ... MZN#page=2

Oh you mean those kinds? Yeah that's the guys you basically support. You also support abandoning the people who helped us fight ISIS. in other words you support being a backstabbing piece of shit. You should know if we end up in a middle east war again then it'll be too soon and this time I doubt anyone would want to help us.


in other words, i am a piece of shit?
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Postby Rojava Free State » Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:07 pm

Loben The 2nd wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
Lmao what grievances? https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/ka ... MZN#page=2

Oh you mean those kinds? Yeah that's the guys you basically support. You also support abandoning the people who helped us fight ISIS. in other words you support being a backstabbing piece of shit. You should know if we end up in a middle east war again then it'll be too soon and this time I doubt anyone would want to help us.


in other words, i am a piece of shit?


I don't know, are you?
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Postby Loben The 2nd » Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:08 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
Loben The 2nd wrote:
in other words, i am a piece of shit?


I don't know, are you?


i must be. but that changes nothing.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:09 pm

Loben The 2nd wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
I don't know, are you?


i must be. but that changes nothing.


No, it doesnt. Isn't like you would be the first or last person to support being treacherous
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Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Postby Nogodia » Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:10 pm

Loben The 2nd wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
Must suck calling the kurds pussies when you probably never even served in an army one day of your life. Like you would make it one day in the Syrian killing fields. Once again, your condoning backstabbing allies. You don't support bravery. YoU support being a coward


i dont condone cockblocking the turks who have grievances to air

What fucking grievances?
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Postby Loben The 2nd » Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:12 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
Loben The 2nd wrote:
i must be. but that changes nothing.


No, it doesnt. Isn't like you would be the first or last person to support being treacherous


Its more about ideology then anything, and how western circles bought their shit hook line sinker.
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Postby Loben The 2nd » Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:12 pm

Nogodia wrote:
Loben The 2nd wrote:
i dont condone cockblocking the turks who have grievances to air

What fucking grievances?
Turkey invaded Rojava's territory, Rojava never sent soldiers into Turkey to occupy its sovereign territory.


they did however support an insurgency.
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Postby Aureumterra » Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:13 pm

The Noviaskiet wrote:F R E E R O J A V A! F R E E H O N G K O N G! L O N G L I V E T H E R E V O L U T I O N!
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Postby Chernoslavia » Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:15 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
Loben The 2nd wrote:

must suck knowing that your world view is incompatible with the real world.


Must suck calling the kurds pussies when you probably never even served in an army one day of your life. Like you would make it one day in the Syrian killing fields. Once again, your condoning backstabbing allies. You don't support bravery. YoU support being a coward


If Loben is a coward, then what does that make you? Go take your ass to Rojava and pick up a gun yourself. Last I checked, they’re still recruiting foreigners.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:21 pm

Chernoslavia wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
Must suck calling the kurds pussies when you probably never even served in an army one day of your life. Like you would make it one day in the Syrian killing fields. Once again, your condoning backstabbing allies. You don't support bravery. YoU support being a coward


If Loben is a coward, then what does that make you? Go take your ass to Rojava and pick up a gun yourself. Last I checked, they’re still recruiting foreigners.


Lmao at least I don't support having our soldiers run away. Why, do you think backstabbing allies is cool too chern? you think it's okay for us to flee and leave the kurds behind? I know damn well what that makes you and you ought to know as well

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-syri ... SKBN1WP1ZD

By the way, if the Turkish offensive is so justified then why is Turkey arresting people for peacefully protesting against it?
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Postby Rojava Free State » Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:21 pm

Loben The 2nd wrote:
Nogodia wrote:What fucking grievances?
Turkey invaded Rojava's territory, Rojava never sent soldiers into Turkey to occupy its sovereign territory.


they did however support an insurgency.


Not comparable to a full fledged military invasion of a sovereign nation.
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Postby The Black Forrest » Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:25 pm

Loben The 2nd wrote:
Nogodia wrote:What fucking grievances?
Turkey invaded Rojava's territory, Rojava never sent soldiers into Turkey to occupy its sovereign territory.


they did however support an insurgency.


And? so has just about every major country at one time or another.

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