Turkish military offensive in Syria/Rojava

[Loben The 2nd]

I'm not going to accept any source that describes the SDF as worse than ISIS.

The YPG appears to be, at the very least, closely affiliated if not an covert branch of the PPK which in turn is controlled by Ocalan from prison like a mob boss guides his crime empire from behind walls. The PKK is a throughly stalinist organization who conducts frequent internal purges and executions and before converting - due reasons of good western PR - to "democratic confederalism" Ocalan was proudly comparing himself to Stalin. Even adopted his stache for additional MilliStalins.

wow....Stalinists.

why the fuck did we allow ourselves to ally to trash?

[Wallenburg]

"Resettlement of Syrians" sounds a whole lot like "ethnic cleansing of Kurds".

[Kyria]

"Resettlement of Syrians" sounds a whole lot like "ethnic cleansing of Kurds".

Exactly what I was thinking. "Terror-free areas" definitely refers to Kurdish lands, and Turkey isn’t at all adverse to ethnic replacement and cleansing.

Edit: I believe many Kurds aren’t the kind of Muslims as Erdogan approves of too, as I’ve heard many are Azeris or even barely Muslim. I could well be wrong but it makes sense he’d try to replace them with Sunni Muslims as part of his fanatical Islamist agenda.

Other edits: fixed spelling, it’s late so shut up grr

[Loben The 2nd]

"Resettlement of Syrians" sounds a whole lot like "ethnic cleansing of Kurds".

wow, alt right Rhetoric.

why do people not want syrian refugees to not have better lives?

[Confederate Norway]

I just want our troops out of Syria. I do not want an Iraq or Afghanistan 2.0. Also why are people so concerned about Rojava/Kurds than the rest of Syria? Don't other Syrians lives matter equally to the Kurds?

[Loben The 2nd]

I just want our troops out of Syria. I do not want an Iraq or Afghanistan 2.0. Also why are people so concerned about Rojava/Kurds than the rest of Syria? Don't other Syrians lives matter equally to the Kurds?

well see, the rojava are socialists/stalinists, so they are the lefts model minority to root for.

[Flawless Walruses]

I just want our troops out of Syria. I do not want an Iraq or Afghanistan 2.0. Also why are people so concerned about Rojava/Kurds than the rest of Syria? Don't other Syrians lives matter equally to the Kurds?

well see, the rojava are socialists/stalinists, so they are the lefts model minority to root for.

^ This

Also, the displaced Sunni refugees are supposed to remain the Right's cheap labour pool / wage restraint mechanism, ready to be invited in when politically useful.

[Kyria]

"Resettlement of Syrians" sounds a whole lot like "ethnic cleansing of Kurds".

wow, alt right Rhetoric.

why do people not want syrian refugees to not have better lives?

I’m not against resettling Syrians in their homeland, provided their resettlement doesn’t displace native ethnic and religious minorities.

I just want our troops out of Syria. I do not want an Iraq or Afghanistan 2.0. Also why are people so concerned about Rojava/Kurds than the rest of Syria? Don't other Syrians lives matter equally to the Kurds?

well see, the rojava are socialists/stalinists, so they are the lefts model minority to root for.

In my case, I support the Kurdish cause as a fight for freedom in the face of repression. I wouldn’t care whether they were capitalist or socialist, I just believe they ought to have their own homeland and not be replaced by another group.

[Loben The 2nd]

wow, alt right Rhetoric.

why do people not want syrian refugees to not have better lives?

I’m not against resettling Syrians in their homeland, provided their resettlement doesn’t displace native ethnic and religious minorities.

well see, the rojava are socialists/stalinists, so they are the lefts model minority to root for.

In my case, I support the Kurdish cause as a fight for freedom in the face of repression. I wouldn’t care whether they were capitalist or socialist, I just believe they ought to have their own homeland and not be replaced by another group.

what a bigoted and repulsive statement. cant you see the potential of cultural enrichment in those areas?

[Chernoslavia]

No, please do. I'm curious.

No, I'm afraid I won't be falling into the bait. From past experience, I simply don't believe you are posting in good faith in any sort of way. Have fun with your anti-Turkish circlejerk, though, it must be very fulfilling.

Lol what a cop out.

[Agarntrop]

I’m not against resettling Syrians in their homeland, provided their resettlement doesn’t displace native ethnic and religious minorities.



In my case, I support the Kurdish cause as a fight for freedom in the face of repression. I wouldn’t care whether they were capitalist or socialist, I just believe they ought to have their own homeland and not be replaced by another group.

what a bigoted and repulsive statement. cant you see the potential of cultural enrichment in those areas?

Can you please cease your silly and sarcastic comments?

[Nakena]

Can you please cease your silly and sarcastic comments?

If you cease your support for EU and NATO designated terrorist organizations.

[Kyria]

I’m not against resettling Syrians in their homeland, provided their resettlement doesn’t displace native ethnic and religious minorities.



In my case, I support the Kurdish cause as a fight for freedom in the face of repression. I wouldn’t care whether they were capitalist or socialist, I just believe they ought to have their own homeland and not be replaced by another group.

what a bigoted and repulsive statement. cant you see the potential of cultural enrichment in those areas?

Given the lack of capitalisation and how un-Right (?) you sound to me, I’m just going to leave it at that. Though personally, I don’t see Syria as particularly cultured, though that’s more that I haven’t been exposed to Syrian culture nor find it particularly "refined" than anything.

[Chernoslavia]

I just want our troops out of Syria. I do not want an Iraq or Afghanistan 2.0. Also why are people so concerned about Rojava/Kurds than the rest of Syria? Don't other Syrians lives matter equally to the Kurds?

well see, the rojava are socialists/stalinists, so they are the lefts model minority to root for.

Yup. One of the reasons why I’ve backed out of volunteering for them.

[Agarntrop]

Can you please cease your silly and sarcastic comments?

If you cease your support for EU and NATO designated terrorist organizations.

Hm? Explain.

[Loben The 2nd]

"Socialism EW!" is the mindset that helped lay the path to a theocratic Iran.

a US-sponsored coup imposing a dictatorial Shah is what led to a theocratic Iran.

i have no desire to impose a dictatorship on the Kurds and the KDP is not an authoritarian or theocratic group.

the kurds however are more then happy to impose their will on all who live in their occupied areas.

the way i see it this is what NATO shouldve been doing since the 90s.

[Nakena]

If you cease your support for EU and NATO designated terrorist organizations.

Hm? Explain.

The PKK is a natural reaction to long and severe oppression.

I am sympathetic towards the PKK myself, to be honest. They are preferable to Erdogan's personal terrorist group (the Turkish Armed Forces).

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[Lost Memories]

Also why are people so concerned about Rojava/Kurds than the rest of Syria? Don't other Syrians lives matter equally to the Kurds?

The syrians have their own nation.
The kurds are split across 4 different nations (Turkey, Syria, Irak, Iran), or atleast used to be, the ones in Turkey already got cropped.

So while both had to deal with the syrian civil war, and the isis trying to sneak in the while, their condition as populations isn't the same, the kurds are more vulnerable.
Specifically now, the news being discussed is about Turkey creating a "terror-free zone" inside kurdish territory, by very democratic means of bombing, so, for what concerns the news being discussed, the kurds are the ones drawing the short end of the stick, in multiple ways, which leads to them being pitiable.

[SD_Film Artists]

I just want our troops out of Syria. I do not want an Iraq or Afghanistan 2.0. Also why are people so concerned about Rojava/Kurds than the rest of Syria? Don't other Syrians lives matter equally to the Kurds?

well see, the rojava are socialists/stalinists, so they are the lefts model minority to root for.

I didn't know about them being socialist, they just seem like a relatively moderate faction (neither Iranian puppets nor jihadists) who are also one of the only groups who were directly fighting ISIS. Their freedom is the least they deserve for their bravery.

[Agarntrop]

Hm? Explain.

I am sympathetic towards the PKK myself, to be honest. They are preferable to Erdogan's personal terrorist group (the Turkish Armed Forces).

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Sympathy

n. A feeling of pity or sorrow for the distress of another; commiseration. synonym: pity.
n. An expression of such feeling.

Support

v. To give encouragement and approval to someone or something because you want the person or thing to succeed.

[Loben The 2nd]

the kurds however are more then happy to impose their will on all who live in their occupied areas.

the way i see it this is what NATO shouldve been doing since the 90s.

Turkey has been drifting into Russia's sphere of influence. as far as i'm concerned they've pretty much abandoned NATO. the Kurds, despite their faults, would be far superior allies to fucking Erdogan.

what could they possibly contribute?

impressively less then what Germany nowadays could offer.

[Loben The 2nd]

well see, the rojava are socialists/stalinists, so they are the lefts model minority to root for.

I didn't know about them being socialist, they just seem like a relatively moderate faction (neither Iranian puppets nor jihadists) who are also one of the only groups who were directly fighting ISIS. Their freedom is the least they deserve for their bravery.

what they 'deserve' and what they will get will be white knight to black bishop.

[Wallenburg]

"Resettlement of Syrians" sounds a whole lot like "ethnic cleansing of Kurds".

wow, alt right Rhetoric.

why do people not want syrian refugees to not have better lives?

I'm sure being dumped in the middle of the desert behind a line of bloody massacre will improve the lives of refugees.

I just want our troops out of Syria. I do not want an Iraq or Afghanistan 2.0. Also why are people so concerned about Rojava/Kurds than the rest of Syria? Don't other Syrians lives matter equally to the Kurds?

They do. However, Turkey has demonstrated no desire to genocide Syrian Arabs, so that's not exactly an immediate issue here.

[Pasong Tirad]

Biji berxwedana Rojava!

[Rojava Free State]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... MZN#page=2

In other news, President Donald trump today defended his pull out by claiming the kurds didn't help us in normady. Lmao yeah cause they didn't have a country of their own and a military dipshit. And who cares if they did or didnt? THey helped us fight ISIS. we shouldn't just abandon them to genocide by the Turkish army.

You know according to dante's inferno, one of the lowest levels of hell is reserved for the treacherous