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by Maqkaradj » Mon Oct 14, 2019 2:40 pm
by Duhon » Mon Oct 14, 2019 4:56 pm
Maqkaradj wrote:I'm glad this has led the SDF to ally with Assad. If the US had stayed in Rojava it is almost certain that they would have been used by the Neo-Con hawks to topple Assad. Also funny how Americans have such short memories when it comes to foreign interventions, don't they remember their previous adventures or does the media have such a fucking hold over their minds?
by Loben The 2nd » Mon Oct 14, 2019 5:06 pm
Duhon wrote:Maqkaradj wrote:I'm glad this has led the SDF to ally with Assad. If the US had stayed in Rojava it is almost certain that they would have been used by the Neo-Con hawks to topple Assad. Also funny how Americans have such short memories when it comes to foreign interventions, don't they remember their previous adventures or does the media have such a fucking hold over their minds?
this adventure mainly consists of keeping isis from rising from the ashes and the turks from shooting every kurd in sight
in other words, a whole lot of vigilance, but also a whole lot of nothing
by Rezmaeristan » Mon Oct 14, 2019 7:13 pm
Duhon wrote:The Republic of Fore wrote:Meh label it how ever you wish. It will never cease to entertain how brave some people are with other people's lives
speaking of bravery, here, have a load of this
tl;dr: trump says the troops now leaving syria will now be somewhere else in the region, for there's nothing like eating fucking popcorn at a genocidal premiere
by Totally Not OEP » Mon Oct 14, 2019 7:28 pm
by Sovaal » Mon Oct 14, 2019 7:58 pm
by GLDF » Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:33 pm
Duhon wrote:The Republic of Fore wrote:Meh label it how ever you wish. It will never cease to entertain how brave some people are with other people's lives
speaking of bravery, here, have a load of this
tl;dr: trump says the troops now leaving syria will now be somewhere else in the region, for there's nothing like eating fucking popcorn at a genocidal premiere
by Pasong Tirad » Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:53 pm
by Kowani » Mon Oct 14, 2019 9:02 pm
Wallenburg wrote:
"Trump's edict may lead to peace, security and stability in Syria"
Yeah, all-out war with Turkey sure looks like peace, security, and stability.
Also, I like how they just straight up list Rojava's fight against ISIS as a reason not to support them.
by Nakena » Mon Oct 14, 2019 9:26 pm
Kowani wrote:Wallenburg wrote:"Trump's edict may lead to peace, security and stability in Syria"
Yeah, all-out war with Turkey sure looks like peace, security, and stability.
Also, I like how they just straight up list Rojava's fight against ISIS as a reason not to support them.
Corpses are remarkably non-violent.
by Kowani » Mon Oct 14, 2019 9:27 pm
by Risottia » Mon Oct 14, 2019 9:58 pm
I dont even know who to root for wrote:Risottia wrote:Anyone can pick up weapons on another location and start fighting. Follows logically that everyone and their uncle are legitimate targets. Including, dunno, kindergarten kids in Ankara? They could grow up, pick up weapons and fight.
This comparison is so weak I am not even bothering to this
Risottia wrote:Nope, you're not combatting anymore.
Not at that moment, no, but a few hours later, yes. I can deny the enemy manpower by taking him out.
Risottia wrote:Because you want to be considered a legitimate soldier and not a war criminal.
Correction - you don't want to be the war criminal on the loosing side.
by Vistulange » Mon Oct 14, 2019 10:24 pm
by New Arcadius » Mon Oct 14, 2019 10:26 pm
Loben The 2nd wrote:Turkey has every right to do this.
by The Alma Mater » Mon Oct 14, 2019 10:36 pm
by Pasong Tirad » Mon Oct 14, 2019 10:43 pm
by The Republic of Fore » Mon Oct 14, 2019 10:47 pm
Duhon wrote:The Republic of Fore wrote:Meh label it how ever you wish. It will never cease to entertain how brave some people are with other people's lives
speaking of bravery, here, have a load of this
tl;dr: trump says the troops now leaving syria will now be somewhere else in the region, for there's nothing like eating fucking popcorn at a genocidal premiere
by Vistulange » Mon Oct 14, 2019 11:07 pm
by Kubra » Mon Oct 14, 2019 11:13 pm
I dunno about "genocide", but as you know kurds since the formation of Turkey have generally been a rebellious minority in a country that has tried very hard to be very french in terms of how to views its central culture. Having kurds on the border in cahoots with the rebellious ones inside the borders is a security threat, no matter how you spin it. It's why Turkey is generally amiable with the iraqi kurds that aren't into the whole ocalan thing.
by Vistulange » Mon Oct 14, 2019 11:59 pm
Kubra wrote:I dunno about "genocide", but as you know kurds since the formation of Turkey have generally been a rebellious minority in a country that has tried very hard to be very french in terms of how to views its central culture. Having kurds on the border in cahoots with the rebellious ones inside the borders is a security threat, no matter how you spin it. It's why Turkey is generally amiable with the iraqi kurds that aren't into the whole ocalan thing.Vistulange wrote:I still haven't had anybody tell me precisely what Erdoğan gets out of genociding Kurds, though. Unless you think he's in it just to make people cry, at which point I really don't know what to say.
by The Alma Mater » Tue Oct 15, 2019 12:03 am
Vistulange wrote:Kubra wrote: I dunno about "genocide", but as you know kurds since the formation of Turkey have generally been a rebellious minority in a country that has tried very hard to be very french in terms of how to views its central culture. Having kurds on the border in cahoots with the rebellious ones inside the borders is a security threat, no matter how you spin it. It's why Turkey is generally amiable with the iraqi kurds that aren't into the whole ocalan thing.
Okay. I'm chill and on board with that explanation.
Still, the whole "genocide" thing looks like it's just "well Turks did 1915, so they're inclined towards genocide, let's go with induction and immediately assume they want to genocide Kurds as well" in NSG-speak which naturally involves plenty of strawmanning and a complete disregard for forces influencing the actors.
by Nakena » Tue Oct 15, 2019 12:05 am
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